GamerGround >> Xcom in 2 weeks.

KH Johnsen -

LittleKang -

ferox13 - Try to play alittle of the Demo but it was a bit Clunky on my PC.

Did they get rid of Action Points or make them more simple?

Action Points? Never saw that.... Maybe its the promotion system now

No action points.

El_Clap - clunky is right. I need a new pc. I think I'm going to have to get this for Xbox.

For you Xcom loving Ipad users, Aliens Versus Humans:The Onslaught was released today.

It's pretty much an old school Xcom clone. Will be picking that up this evening.

ferox13 -

El_Clap - clunky is right. I need a new pc. I think I'm going to have to get this for Xbox.

For you Xcom loving Ipad users, Aliens Versus Humans:The Onslaught was released today.

It's pretty much an old school Xcom clone. Will be picking that up this evening.

Yeah - its kinda strange that a turn based game should be so demanding..oh well.

With regard to action points I found this:
In the original games, your characters had a general energy meter that dictated how far they could move without stopping; here, movement is broken into two action points. Moving a certain distance on the map (marked in blue) is one move, while moving into an extended zone (marked in yellow) is considered "dashing" and takes two bars. Moving one bar allows the character to act again that turn, while two bars ends their turn completely.

Looks like they dumbed it down alot.

It kinda looks like you can only have 1 slot in your pck too:

ferox13 - Maybe I picked up wrong but it seems a character can move twice or move+shoot once regardless of weapon type etc. I am not sure if you can choose aimed or snap shot either.

I just played it for a few mins as my machine wasn't up to it but from what i saw there seemed to less choices. Then again this was just a demo and i didn't even play right the way through.

ferox13 - I love the look of the new one but i feel it might be missing a lot of options that the original had.

Can any one who has played the demo answer these, thanks:

Do you have a choice of shot types (i.e snap shot or aimed shot?)

Do all weapons fire once per turn? Or can faster weapons fire more than slower ones (ie can you get more shots off with a plama pistol than a sniper rifle).

I must say the graphics on the new one look great and it seems atmospheric. The animation for the mind control cracked me up but if they made the combat too simple, it might be a deal breaker.

ferox13 - Damn - this thread has made me wanna try DosBox out and play the original...

Anyone try this?

ferox13 - I think the fact its cross platform might be part responsible for these changes.

The micro management of inventory isn't a big loss but at this stage it looks like they dumbed down the combat alot (which would take some of the fun out of it for me). The decision to pop one last shot or go for cover OR was it better to try take the ET with one aimed shot rather than a couple of paniced snap shotd was what made the game fot me.

KH Johnsen - 

ferox13 - Damn - this thread has made me wanna try DosBox out and play the original...

Anyone try this?

Get it of steam. It works

redeye2000 - was there ever a syndycate FPS game? i thought those were just fairy tales that came from people who add to much coke in their noses

ferox13 - Thanks man - what i meant was if I buy the games (I might get the pack) via Steam. I don't have to mess around with DosBox - they will just play straight from the steam interface?

Thanks man - I am tempted. Just €15 for the 5 games. (VTFU)

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Edit: Just looked at Steam and looks like it won't work for my Win7 (64bit machine):

System Requirements

Playing 360 XCOM now. Quick impressions.....

I LOVED the original, but it was what, 15 years ago? I forget some specifics. Would love to answer your specific questions, ferox, but I forget some of the original....

I'm really digging the new one after about 3 hrs of gameplay. They did try to simplify things, make some tutorial aspects more cinematic, but a lot of it seems to work like the old one. I'm still trying to figure out a few features, and that will take more than the 3 hours I played.

Soldiers do progress, and new skills are opened. Some can run and gun, some cannot. I think you can have up to 6 in your squad, but only 4 when you start. A member has to be promoted enough to become a bit of a leader before another slot can open on the team. I like this feature.

Overwatch seems like a good idea, but I do feel like it's mostly a move then shoot experience.

Graphics upgrade is very welcome. It looks good. Not high demands, but it does run on the unreal engine, so plenty of small graphic touches.

From what I've seen, I get a hunch that it will take a longer time to finish. Don't think this is a 20 hour game.

In summary, game seems awesome, especially if a fan of the original. I will not buy this game for $50-60, but then again, I don't think that is worth it for any game. My one $60 game this year will be black ops 2, because we STILL play zombies in my house every single saturday morning. XCOM would probably be right behind black ops 2 as far as purchases go. I'll be very surprised if this game doesn't get high rankings, and I will buy a copy off amazon as soon as I see used versions hitting the market. I do think it is likely well worth the purchase. I do question replayability though, as it seems like I'll play through completion then sell. That being said, I think I'll enjoy every single second of this one.

KH Johnsen - Sounds good. Is the 360 out in the states now? Its released in Europe on friday