UnderGround Forum >> JDS: it's out of order that Reem is next for title
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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up
Edited: 10/24/12 4:36 PM Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 13751 |
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| 10/24/12 4:53 PM | |
PrettyBoy
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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up -Who cares though. You can put into context the Overeem Brock fight to downplay Overeem's win, but you fail to put into context how vastly Werdum has improved since JDS fought him to showcase the significance of Overeem's win. Instead you just say he looked like shit. There literally might only be 3-4 HW's that could beat Werdum when Overeem beat him. You can't play the context card only when it suits you. Even Dana was saying Werdum is due for a shot soon. Overeem is a bad motherfucker and the true HW champ. JDS isn't undisputed till that fight happens.
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| 10/24/12 5:07 PM | |
Il Duce
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Member Since: 2/1/12 Posts: 285 |
dfw jr -Anyone know if he made that statement before or after he was popped? What's the context here? I also remember JDS saying Reem didn't deserve a shot right after his suspension is lifted. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno. Somebody remember?
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| 10/24/12 5:07 PM | |
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fiercedragon
Member Since: 4/19/04 Posts: 17184 |
The entire hw division is messed up. werdum, gonzaga, Barnett, and cormier are all sitting around with nothing to do. Hey zuffa match them up! Barnett n gonzaga/cormier n werdum...
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| 10/24/12 5:10 PM | |
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bhealthy
Member Since: 11/14/06 Posts: 16546 |
whats all the hubub? handing an undeserved title shot to a confirmed roider is a UFC tradition. Cain is a superbadass and is a HUGE threat in a rematch. |
| 10/24/12 5:10 PM | |
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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up
Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 13757 |
Werdum HAS improved greatly since the JDS fight.
That does not make Overeem, the K1 Champion, look much better for putting on an aweful performance against Werdum.
LMFAO@ Overeem being the "true HW champ" by barely outpointing Werdum, just because politics and corruption ruined PRIDE and the pieces fell into different organizations. Stop living in the past.
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| 10/24/12 5:13 PM | |
JasonGV
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Member Since: 2/7/05 Posts: 2466 |
Rahjai - love the brazilian translations. Yeah these translationa are great. This combat is out of order! |
| 10/24/12 5:14 PM | |
bigdee1983420
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Il Duce -dfw jr -Anyone know if he made that statement before or after he was popped? What's the context here? I also remember JDS saying Reem didn't deserve a shot right after his suspension is lifted. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno. Somebody remember? JDS started saying Reem doesn't deserve the title right after his Testosterone was high. The Reem replied with "JDS is afraid of me". Then JDS went to Vegas to meet with Dana in his office. After that Dana told the media "JDS begged me for the Reem fight,that he respects Cain very much,and thinks he deserves the shot but would like to KO Reem first cause he hates him". The HWT division needs Reem vs JDS,cann't wait to see it. |
| 10/24/12 5:19 PM | |
sly fox
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Member Since: 6/30/09 Posts: 2296 |
Reem cannot be compared to sonnon.. hes in a different class... |
| 10/24/12 5:26 PM | |
AshDoherty
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Member Since: 6/15/12 Posts: 127 |
Did Dana White just post in my thread? |
| 10/24/12 5:31 PM | |
bigdee1983420
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Member Since: 5/21/11 Posts: 31 |
dfw jr - I see what your saying Dana,it makes no since that JDS "begged" for Reem,and now hes pretty much saying ya'lls ranking are fucked up making him fight Reem(if he beats Cain in the rematch). I'm a huge fan of both guys styles/skills,and as a fan I just want them to fight. There striking skills alone separates this HWT fight from any other in the history of MMA HWT fights! |
| 10/24/12 5:57 PM | |
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Nexuscrawlers
Member Since: 10/23/09 Posts: 7136 |
bigdee1983420 -No one (including jds) is saying this fight shouldn't happen. Some people are just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. But no one is saying the fight shouldn't happen.dfw jr -
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| 10/24/12 6:49 PM | |
bigdee1983420
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Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -No one (including jds) is saying this fight shouldn't happen. Some people are just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. But no one is saying the fight shouldn't happen.dfw jr - It absolutely makes total since in my opinion. Reem is the only style/skill set that JDS has yet to face in the Octagon. By no means was I implying JDS is ducking Reem or doesn't want to fight him. But I do feel he downplays Reems skills alot,and reverts to calling him a cheater etc... When in fact Reem never tested postitive for not one steroid(Which he explained the anti-inflam./Test)was the cause of his elevated Test. to Epi. levels. The MMA media is alot to blame for JDS thinking like that(They jump the gun),if you didn't see it,you cann't say Reem is a roider,period. Bottomline JDS vs Reem is the greatest potential HWT fight of all time. RESPECT!!! |
| 10/24/12 7:06 PM | |
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Nexuscrawlers
Member Since: 10/23/09 Posts: 7142 |
bigdee1983420 -Agreed, I've wanted that fight for a long time. I think to JDS these contenders "don't make sense" because he had to beat 7 people in the UFC before he got a shot, and now these 2 get a shot after a 1 win streak.Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -No one (including jds) is saying this fight shouldn't happen. Some people are just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. But no one is saying the fight shouldn't happen.dfw jr - I don't think he is knocking overeems skills as much as the clusterfuck of contenders.
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| 10/24/12 7:18 PM | |
PrettyBoy
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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up -You got to beat the man to be the man. Fedor -> Werdum -> Reem And quit voting me down.
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| 10/24/12 7:21 PM | |
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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up
Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 13763 |
PrettyBoy -UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up -You got to beat the man to be the man. Fedor -> Werdum -> Reem I didn't vote you down. I promise. I don't VD for opinions. Fighter bashers and trolls only for my VDs.
Again you are stuck in the past, and using the sad demise of PRIDE, and the sad avoidance of M1Global to argue that someone is the "true HW" champion. It is nonsense. |
| 10/24/12 7:23 PM | |
bigdee1983420
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Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -Agreed, I've wanted that fight for a long time. I think to JDS these contenders "don't make sense" because he had to beat 7 people in the UFC before he got a shot, and now these 2 get a shot after a 1 win streak.Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -No one (including jds) is saying this fight shouldn't happen. Some people are just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. But no one is saying the fight shouldn't happen.dfw jr - To be quite honest Alistair should make alot of sence to JDS. Him being a Strikeforce/Dream HWT Champ,not to mention the 2010 K-1 Grand Prix champion. Plus Reem has been undefeated for awhile now in MMA. JDS should want that fight,cause if he beats Alistair that will rase his stock 10 folds. Alot of the hardcore fans consider Overeem pretty high up there in the rankings. |
| 10/24/12 7:24 PM | |
Ryan Black
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Member Since: 4/30/12 Posts: 975 |
JDS has grown on me immensely throughout his UFC career. Dude is- through & through, a consummate professional, a real fighter, and a force to be reckoned with at the top of the foodchain. Really hope he focuses on Cain though; you know the rematch will differ from their first encounter. And I highly doubt JDS is expecting to walk through him in 18 seconds again. Can't wait for this fight. Never been a die-hard Overeem fan... TBH, if JDS KTFO's him quick, like he did Cain- I would consider the Overeem hype train derailed. Then Allistair will be humbled a bit & need to climb the ranks to get another shot, then I don't see any reason why JDS wouldn't consider him a legitimate contender- given that he overcomes the feat of passing every drug test in between.
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| 10/24/12 7:33 PM | |
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Nexuscrawlers
Member Since: 10/23/09 Posts: 7147 |
bigdee1983420 -Agreed. That's why I think jds wants this fight. He says he knows he can beat him (I agree). But it is a little fishy to give a guy coming off a suspension a title shot. But I 100% want them to make this fight after the Cain match. Or even before that if Cain gets injured and Overeem gets licenced or something.Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -Agreed, I've wanted that fight for a long time. I think to JDS these contenders "don't make sense" because he had to beat 7 people in the UFC before he got a shot, and now these 2 get a shot after a 1 win streak.Nexuscrawlers -bigdee1983420 -No one (including jds) is saying this fight shouldn't happen. Some people are just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. But no one is saying the fight shouldn't happen.dfw jr -
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| 10/25/12 8:34 AM | |
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matazurka
Member Since: 8/30/12 Posts: 1 |
JDS is just talking crap and u-turning about Overeem every month. I can imagine JDS is a bit frustrated that he fought more UFC-fights to get a title-shot but if Zuffa thinks this Overeem/JDS fight will make buckets of money he should just obey and hail Dana. btw: How many fights did Brock actually fought to get a title shot? Just 2... Nuff said |
| 10/26/12 1:06 AM | |
ChaosOverkill
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Member Since: 3/2/11 Posts: 8904 |
matazurka - JDS is just talking crap and u-turning about Overeem every month. I can imagine JDS is a bit frustrated that he fought more UFC-fights to get a title-shot but if Zuffa thinks this Overeem/JDS fight will make buckets of money he should just obey and hail Dana. Fighters fighting their manufactured nemesis is the new WWFC
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