UnderGround Forum >> Is Joe Lauzon MMA's biggest risk taker?

I AM A MOFO - Not to mention fights heavy handed and dangerous fighters with little regard for his own chin. Lets guys like Leben tee off freely (not always with good results, lol) as he goes for a plum, etc..

Talking about the 2nd CC fight, Wandy had his eye practically crushed and couldn't see any of his left strikes coming. Didn't go all defensive and try to survive, got pissed and charged like an animal. Said he knew he was gonna get KOd by a kick but was angry and just wanted to punch CC in the face before it happened.


Wandy doesn't just risk WINS, or giving up positions, he risks his own fucking brain and health just to punch motherfuckers in the mouth.

I'm a huge Lauzon fan, but he doesn't compare to that kinda stuff, imo. Going for a choke when you have the back, or going for the finish when someone is hurt is not "risk taking" (though it is admirable), it's just NOT stalling and trying to win on points. He could def. Go on the list, but..

Unless Lauzon does something like take a fight with Nick Diaz @ 170 and spend most of the time trying to outbox him, he (and likely nobody else) doesn't belong ahead of the likes of Wandy.






Seriously, whoever made that list deserves a Pride style soccer kick from Wand.

UGCTT_Gaspare -  No Nick Diaz???

List has 3 flaws:

Carlos Condit - Show me a risk he took in the Diaz fight. Yes, he NORMALLY takes risks, but there are more than 10 people that take risks EVERY time out.

Jon Jones - Takes the fight where it works for him. Took down Vera and smashed him with the quickness, a stand up battle would have been an entertaining risk. Did I mention turning down Chael? Definitely NOT in the top 50 risk takers.

Anderson Silva - The gap in class between him and every UFC opponent save Chael 1 has been undeniable. His opponents want to fight on their terms? He just disengages completely. See the Maia fiasco.

Wandy, Scott Smith and Robbie Lawler can replace these guys, in nor particular order, or reflection of who they were replacing.

Mmanizzle - 

I AM A MOFO - How many MMA fighters would take a fight against one of K1's best heavyweights, while NOT a HW themselves (small LHW at best), under SPECIAL rules that basically nullified grappling or winning by ANY method other than KO?

Or how many big name MMA fighters would accept a fight against another K1 stand out (while champ, no less) who had 100 lbs on them, on just a couple weeks notice, and come out of the gate with an aggressive barrage of punches?

Be small at LHW and enter open weight tournaments that include 3 of the top 4 heavyweights in the world (also while champ)?

Sit back stage hooked up to an IV with a 103 degree fever only to pull that shit out and go defend his title against someone like Hendo (who at the time, was called a "can" and "gimme" matchup to get this guy over with US fans)?










Only one that I know of. His name is Wandy, and he shits on your list.

^^ one of the exciting things about combat sports is to see guys like Overeem dominate (steroids or not) in K-1 and MMA. Not sure he could've done it without roids, but he's doing it and will continue to do it.

Although Frank Shamrock is on Dana's shit list, this is the philosophy that he used to try and preach back in the day, is to bring up boxers, kickboxers, and BJJ guys and have them compete in all disciplines at the highest levels.

What's impressive is there are guys like Nam Phan that do have professional boxing experience who is also a BJJ black belt. Guys don't stay in it as long because you have to be Pacquiao/Mayweather in order to make some money. MMA is where the money is right now.

Back to the thread - the type of buzz that Bones Jones gets now is what Fedor had in Pride. Exciting to watch.

And yes, Lauzon does take big risks and is one of the most technical guys out there. He doesn't seem to be a natural fighter and punk kid who had street fights, but someone who just worked hard as fuck to work on his skills, practiced and dedicated his life to the sport. Props to Lauzon.

I AM A MOFO - 

Mmanizzle - 

I AM A MOFO - How many MMA fighters would take a fight against one of K1's best heavyweights, while NOT a HW themselves (small LHW at best), under SPECIAL rules that basically nullified grappling or winning by ANY method other than KO?

Or how many big name MMA fighters would accept a fight against another K1 stand out (while champ, no less) who had 100 lbs on them, on just a couple weeks notice, and come out of the gate with an aggressive barrage of punches?

Be small at LHW and enter open weight tournaments that include 3 of the top 4 heavyweights in the world (also while champ)?

Sit back stage hooked up to an IV with a 103 degree fever only to pull that shit out and go defend his title against someone like Hendo (who at the time, was called a "can" and "gimme" matchup to get this guy over with US fans)?










Only one that I know of. His name is Wandy, and he shits on your list.

^^ one of the exciting things about combat sports is to see guys like Overeem dominate (steroids or not) in K-1 and MMA. Not sure he could've done it without roids, but he's doing it and will continue to do it.

Although Frank Shamrock is on Dana's shit list, this is the philosophy that he used to try and preach back in the day, is to bring up boxers, kickboxers, and BJJ guys and have them compete in all disciplines at the highest levels.

What's impressive is there are guys like Nam Phan that do have professional boxing experience who is also a BJJ black belt. Guys don't stay in it as long because you have to be Pacquiao/Mayweather in order to make some money. MMA is where the money is right now.

Back to the thread - the type of buzz that Bones Jones gets now is what Fedor had in Pride. Exciting to watch.

And yes, Lauzon does take big risks and is one of the most technical guys out there. He doesn't seem to be a natural fighter and punk kid who had street fights, but someone who just worked hard as fuck to work on his skills, practiced and dedicated his life to the sport. Props to Lauzon.

Reem's situation wasn't comparable to what Wand did though. Reem is a massive guy who trained and dedicated himself to K1, and mostly fought much smaller guys.

That's not the same as a prominent MMA fighter taking a one off striking match against a K1 standout from a higher weight class that goes on their MMA record.

YellowWrkedByTapIn - Nick and Nate don't do much risk taking, other than taunting when their opponent's backing up. I'd say they're Top 15.

Mmanizzle - 

I AM A MOFO - 

Mmanizzle - 

I AM A MOFO - How many MMA fighters would take a fight against one of K1's best heavyweights, while NOT a HW themselves (small LHW at best), under SPECIAL rules that basically nullified grappling or winning by ANY method other than KO?

Or how many big name MMA fighters would accept a fight against another K1 stand out (while champ, no less) who had 100 lbs on them, on just a couple weeks notice, and come out of the gate with an aggressive barrage of punches?

Be small at LHW and enter open weight tournaments that include 3 of the top 4 heavyweights in the world (also while champ)?

Sit back stage hooked up to an IV with a 103 degree fever only to pull that shit out and go defend his title against someone like Hendo (who at the time, was called a "can" and "gimme" matchup to get this guy over with US fans)?










Only one that I know of. His name is Wandy, and he shits on your list.

^^ one of the exciting things about combat sports is to see guys like Overeem dominate (steroids or not) in K-1 and MMA. Not sure he could've done it without roids, but he's doing it and will continue to do it.

Although Frank Shamrock is on Dana's shit list, this is the philosophy that he used to try and preach back in the day, is to bring up boxers, kickboxers, and BJJ guys and have them compete in all disciplines at the highest levels.

What's impressive is there are guys like Nam Phan that do have professional boxing experience who is also a BJJ black belt. Guys don't stay in it as long because you have to be Pacquiao/Mayweather in order to make some money. MMA is where the money is right now.

Back to the thread - the type of buzz that Bones Jones gets now is what Fedor had in Pride. Exciting to watch.

And yes, Lauzon does take big risks and is one of the most technical guys out there. He doesn't seem to be a natural fighter and punk kid who had street fights, but someone who just worked hard as fuck to work on his skills, practiced and dedicated his life to the sport. Props to Lauzon.

Reem's situation wasn't comparable to what Wand did though. Reem is a massive guy who trained and dedicated himself to K1, and mostly fought much smaller guys.

That's not the same as a prominent MMA fighter taking a one off striking match against a K1 standout from a higher weight class that goes on their MMA record.

I am a Wand fan, don't get me wrong, but the guys that Wand obliterated in Pride weren't the most technical strikers, although very exciting to watch. Alot of his wins in Pride were against Japanese fighters not known for their striking ability.

Excitement VS Skill - two different things here.

demonsurge - I've thought about this more.

Melvin Manhoef should be #1 if you're talking about active fighters.

Dazednconfused - 

YellowWrkedByTapIn - Nick and Nate don't do much risk taking, other than taunting when their opponent's backing up. I'd say they're Top 15.

As if they don't. They stand in the pocket and trade. That's called risk taking. Not running around the octagon

fapout - Olaf Alfonso should be on the list.

Mix6APlix - In before outrage that Jones is on the list.

Dazednconfused - 

YellowWrkedByTapIn - Nick and Nate don't do much risk taking, other than taunting when their opponent's backing up. I'd say they're Top 15.

As if they don't. They stand in the pocket and trade. That's called risk taking. Not running around the octagon