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11/13/12 12:54 PM
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MattyECB 51 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Big Pun - So she can't make 135. Ummm ok, then don't fight at 135. Just don't expect everyone else to come to you at 145. This is just ridiculous. I am really trying to keep an open mind about Cyborg, but she makes it tough. She expects that everyone will come to her and that she is number one. She lost that when she got the one year suspension. If she can't make 135 that's fine. Mayboe there will be a 145 womens division. If there's not, then good luck to her in Invicta. The world doesn't accomodate everything you want in life.

Let's be fair here, though. I'm not a Cyborg fan, but it's obvious why she's pushing Ronda to come up. In response to Ronda's taunts that she move down and that she's too Roided up to fight at 135, naturally Cyborg is going to counter with, "Well Ronda should move up to her old weight class and fight me then". More importantly --

Ronda is the centerpiece of what everyone in WMMA hopes will be the new wave -- where UFC supports wtv weight class Ronda is in i.e. 135.
If Cyborg can't make 135, her only hope of having a superfight on the big stage would be Ronda moving up or fighting at a catch-weight, so they can then promote this one-off super fight in addition to Ronda's usual weight class

Not saying I agree with her, and actually really hate Cyborg if I'm being honest, but it's not like she's randomly calling out fighters who are too tiny to compete with her for no reason





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11/13/12 12:57 PM
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Lol sure Cyborg Phone Post
11/13/12 12:58 PM
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She is ducking Ronda.

Give me a break, Rumble used to cut like 50 pounds to make WW you telling me Cyborg cant stop taking roids and go on a diet and lose a few more pounds and make 35 if she really wanted?

Ronda is a star and she can fight anyone and it will be a big deal, Cyborg can go fight for Invicta vs ? at 145 but few are gonna care.

11/13/12 1:01 PM
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MattyECB 51 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^Dayum, and your a 01er. That woulda been right after Yeaah Baby and his death -- VTFU for nostalgia
11/13/12 1:01 PM
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If she can't make 135, then let her fight at 145 wherever someone will sign her (probably not Zuffa, since they'll probably only build a 135 lb. women's class around Ronda). No big deal.

The 135 class is the most stacked in womens mma.. And ronda is ducking cyborg. It's pathetic how cyborg gets bashed here yet ronda is a saint. Fucking douches. Phone Post

If Rhonda is the 135 champ, is being brought in to the UFC as the 135 champ and the UFC is ONLY going to have a 135 womens class...then how exactly is Rhonda ducking?

Are you suggesting that Rhonda throw away her UFC opportunity to meet the PROVEN steroid abuser in a weight class up that is not even in the UFC? I don't see how that makes any sense at all, especially considering that the 135 women have yet to fight in the UFC.

Cyborg gets bashed because she is a proven steroid abuser who is calling out someone in a weight class below her and is coming up with crazy 'cardiologist' excuses to avoid dropping in weight.
11/13/12 1:04 PM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT 11 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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She should have a camp dedicated to technique and cardio. No strength at all.


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11/13/12 1:07 PM
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Ryann Von Doom - 
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If she can't make 135, then let her fight at 145 wherever someone will sign her (probably not Zuffa, since they'll probably only build a 135 lb. women's class around Ronda). No big deal.

The 135 class is the most stacked in womens mma.. And ronda is ducking cyborg. It's pathetic how cyborg gets bashed here yet ronda is a saint. Fucking douches. Phone Post

Really the UFC should just have a "womens division" and let it be open weight (maybe just have a 20kg rule like in Pride).

There isn't a deep enough talent pool in WMMA for many weight classes at this point.
It's probably in a similar situation as mens MMA was around the turn of the century.

I know it's not going to happen. "Safety" and stuff LOL
11/13/12 1:07 PM
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Hey DFW can you have your doctor's give a second opinion so that you can make this fight already?

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11/13/12 1:14 PM
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135 is the division, if she can't make it then she'll have to go find 145 somewhere else. Simply as that
11/13/12 1:15 PM
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Bullshit, she's a cheater on a massive scale clearly abusing testosterone. Phone Post
11/13/12 1:15 PM
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Now I finally have a legitimate excuse to not drop some pounds. Think of all the money I'll save by dropping my gym membership! Thanks, Cyborg!
11/13/12 1:16 PM
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Ryann Von Doom - 
BuddyRevell -

If she can't make 135, then let her fight at 145 wherever someone will sign her (probably not Zuffa, since they'll probably only build a 135 lb. women's class around Ronda). No big deal.

The 135 class is the most stacked in womens mma.. And ronda is ducking cyborg. It's pathetic how cyborg gets bashed here yet ronda is a saint. Fucking douches. Phone Post

Really the UFC should just have a "womens division" and let it be open weight (maybe just have a 20kg rule like in Pride).

There isn't a deep enough talent pool in WMMA for many weight classes at this point.
It's probably in a similar situation as mens MMA was around the turn of the century.

I know it's not going to happen. "Safety" and stuff LOL
A 44lb open weight for women? Crazy talk. Phone Post
11/13/12 1:26 PM
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She looks all natural to me.

11/13/12 1:32 PM
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UGCTT_Fraser_Finlay -  It should not be up to Ronda - The Champion - to move up a weight class to fight a challenger.

If Cyborg can't make the weight, she shouldn't get the shot. Simple as that. Phone Post

The UFC will make it happen, since this is the only women's fight that anyone would possibly give a shit about
I don't think there is going to be a Women's 145lbs division in the UFC because the talent pool is so shallow.

Unless Ronda vs Cyborg happens at a catchweight or if Ronda does actually move up to 145 to fight Cyborg which I don't think she should do then I don't think it's a possibility unfortunately. I would love to see Ronda rip her arm off in the 1st round and end the rein of the steroid abusing Cris Cyborg.

I'm also very interested in Rousey vs Sara McCann once she gets more experience. Phone Post
11/13/12 1:33 PM
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complete and utter horseshit. get the juice outta yer system, honey, you can make 135. jesus h christ.
11/13/12 1:34 PM
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MentaL - 
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Ryann Von Doom - 
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If she can't make 135, then let her fight at 145 wherever someone will sign her (probably not Zuffa, since they'll probably only build a 135 lb. women's class around Ronda). No big deal.

The 135 class is the most stacked in womens mma.. And ronda is ducking cyborg. It's pathetic how cyborg gets bashed here yet ronda is a saint. Fucking douches. Phone Post

Really the UFC should just have a "womens division" and let it be open weight (maybe just have a 20kg rule like in Pride).

There isn't a deep enough talent pool in WMMA for many weight classes at this point.
It's probably in a similar situation as mens MMA was around the turn of the century.

I know it's not going to happen. "Safety" and stuff LOL
A 44lb open weight for women? Crazy talk. Phone Post

You're talking to a guy who thinks the men should have 2 weigh classes (sub 200 and 200+)

But hey your name change game and face swap threads earn you a VTFU anyway
11/13/12 1:37 PM
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Incredible that so many of you know more tahn cyborg and her Md. I'm guessing you're all just taking breaks from seeing patients to post here.
11/13/12 1:41 PM
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based on her personal health? And the cardiologist won't sign off. Maybe her heart muscle is already compromised for some reason.
11/13/12 1:41 PM
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What a fucking joke. If Cole and Micah can make 135 so can she. Phone Post
11/13/12 2:16 PM
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Heel Hooker - Incredible that so many of you know more tahn cyborg and her Md. I'm guessing you're all just taking breaks from seeing patients to post here.

No doctor in the world is going to have a problem with a uber-muscular female patient with single-digit body fat dropping some of that muscle mass and raising her bodyfat into the double digits.  Female athletes carrying single-digit bodyfat is one of the single most destructive things they can do to their reproductive health, and all that lean mass Cyborg carries puts a ton of strain on her heart to pump enough blood to keep those muscle oxygenated.  I'll guarantee you her doctor has been on her for years to drop some muscle mass and put on a little more body fat.

11/13/12 2:22 PM
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LOL @ anyone believing or caring about this.
11/13/12 2:22 PM
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berger - Imo this is just propaganda from the cyborg camp to start the discussion of RR going up in weight.

What fighters actually ask their doctor to sign off on going down in weight? Phone Post
Nobody your right it's not like she's going to go down to 100 pounds who goes to a Doctor to ask about losing 10 pounds my friend lost 15 pounds to get into a dress and she is married to her Doctor...Cyborg lose it or not just shut up Phone Post
11/13/12 2:23 PM
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Leghound 115 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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"The dangers to her body could also prohibit Santos from carrying a child later in life, and according to her camp, that was a risk the former Strikeforce champion was unwilling to make for any fight."

I would have thought injecting male hormones could have the same effect....
11/13/12 2:25 PM
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I don't know why everyone is so skeptical... Lots of og'ers are carrying huge amounts of muscle that is impossible to lose Phone Post
11/13/12 2:26 PM
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Well , cyborg has the UFC right where she wants them. No doubt they will be forced to create a 155 division just for her and have her defend the belt they will for sure just give her as 55 champ, and then schedule her to fight Amanda Lucas 3 times a year.

Of course if the doctor gives the ok on a safe weight cut to 155. If not maybe we can create 170 just for her.

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