UnderGround Forum >> Tattoo artist suing THQ over UFC Undisputed

yellow wrkahlc - 

As a fellow artist, I can see where he's coming from.

Unfortunately, it's obvious he's just trying to get paid. It's a fucking tattoo. Not a hanging piece of art work in a museum or a clothing line logo.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

if u can see where he's coming from why is it the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?

chaplinshouse - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

As a fellow artist, I can see where he's coming from.

Unfortunately, it's obvious he's just trying to get paid. It's a fucking tattoo. Not a hanging piece of art work in a museum or a clothing line logo.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

if u can see where he's coming from why is it the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?

 

It's understandable that he's upset over something he made being used without his permission. But I find it ridiculous because it's a tattoo. I've been commissioned multiple times for tats, and not once would even think of doing something like this.

He speaks as if they used the tattoo as a main focus of the game, and they're solely profitting off of that. It's obvious he just wants money. It's one thing if THQ was taking the tat and placing it on shirts in the game. But his case is just, for lack of a better term, retarded. The cases that Bucephalus posted above do have some ground to them, minus the first. Just another case of an artist being a greedy fuck.

It's ink that someone paid Escobedo to place on their body for life. How can he retain rights to that? THQ used Carlos' likeness, which means every bit of him. They're well within their legal rights to do so, and I don't see him getting money from them. Not one cent. Maybe a UFC 3 50% Off coupon, but that's it.

Greedy man is greedy.

yellow wrkahlc -

Called Carlos, asked him if he wanted me to redo his tat. Needless to say, it'll be ready by the time he steps into the cage with GSP.

 

And they said Escobedo was the only one who knew his lions...

btw, LMFAO at such a generic tribal tattoo warranting a copyright and lawsuit. Tyson's artist must be soooo damn creative.

MasterofMartialArts -

yellow wrkahlc -

As a fellow artist, I can see where he's coming from.

Unfortunately, it's obvious he's just trying to get paid. It's a fucking tattoo. Not a hanging piece of art work in a museum or a clothing line logo.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

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I would be somewhat annoyed by that, but still. You are putting it on a fucking person. People probably steal the idea all the time and its not like its an insanely original piece of art.

yellow wrkahlc - 

chaplinshouse - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

As a fellow artist, I can see where he's coming from.

Unfortunately, it's obvious he's just trying to get paid. It's a fucking tattoo. Not a hanging piece of art work in a museum or a clothing line logo.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

if u can see where he's coming from why is it the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?

 

It's understandable that he's upset over something he made being used without his permission. But I find it ridiculous because it's a tattoo. I've been commissioned multiple times for tats, and not once would even think of doing something like this.

He speaks as if they used the tattoo as a main focus of the game, and they're solely profitting off of that. It's obvious he just wants money. It's one thing if THQ was taking the tat and placing it on shirts in the game. But his case is just, for lack of a better term, retarded. The cases that Bucephalus posted above do have some ground to them, minus the first. Just another case of an artist being a greedy fuck.

It's ink that someone paid Escobedo to place on their body for life. How can he retain rights to that? THQ used Carlos' likeness, which means every bit of him. They're well within their legal rights to do so, and I don't see him getting money from them. Not one cent. Maybe a UFC 3 50% Off coupon, but that's it.

Greedy man is greedy.

 

 

yeah i agree 100%, i just can't relate with the guy even though im an artist of a different field, not even a little.   what a piece of shit.  I guarantee this guy is talking up how his work is on a "ufc champion" maybe Carlos should sue.  And even that suit as ridiculous as it would be, would have more merit since the dude is actually trying to profit off Carlos' name, unlike THQ. 

worst case scenario:  he gets a crazy idiot judge that rules in his favor.  then the flood gates of tattoo artists who's work is in video games would open and people would consider tat artists scumbags that aren't worth the risk of trusting (esp if you're famous)

chaplinshouse - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

chaplinshouse - 

yellow wrkahlc - 

As a fellow artist, I can see where he's coming from.

Unfortunately, it's obvious he's just trying to get paid. It's a fucking tattoo. Not a hanging piece of art work in a museum or a clothing line logo.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

 

if u can see where he's coming from why is it the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?

 

It's understandable that he's upset over something he made being used without his permission. But I find it ridiculous because it's a tattoo. I've been commissioned multiple times for tats, and not once would even think of doing something like this.

He speaks as if they used the tattoo as a main focus of the game, and they're solely profitting off of that. It's obvious he just wants money. It's one thing if THQ was taking the tat and placing it on shirts in the game. But his case is just, for lack of a better term, retarded. The cases that Bucephalus posted above do have some ground to them, minus the first. Just another case of an artist being a greedy fuck.

It's ink that someone paid Escobedo to place on their body for life. How can he retain rights to that? THQ used Carlos' likeness, which means every bit of him. They're well within their legal rights to do so, and I don't see him getting money from them. Not one cent. Maybe a UFC 3 50% Off coupon, but that's it.

Greedy man is greedy.

 

 

yeah i agree 100%, i just can't relate with the guy even though im an artist of a different field, not even a little.   what a piece of shit.  I guarantee this guy is talking up how his work is on a "ufc champion" maybe Carlos should sue.  And even that suit as ridiculous as it would be, would have more merit since the dude is actually trying to profit off Carlos' name, unlike THQ. 

worst case scenario:  he gets a crazy idiot judge that rules in his favor.  then the flood gates of tattoo artists who's work is in video games would open and people would consider tat artists scumbags that aren't worth the risk of trusting (esp if you're famous)

That's what worries me the most. A chain reaction continuing. Tattoos are pieces of artwork, and it's totally acceptable to place copyrights on them. But it's a dirty trick to do so AFTER you see an opportunity for financial gain.

Seriously, Bucephalus, thanks for posting those. While I don't agree with you, it's good that people can read the difference between those last two cases and this one. The first case (Tyson case) you posted troubles me because it's almost identicle to this one. It's a bullshit case, but the guy got money, and so could Escobedo.

As i said before, I hope this story gets out in his area and he loses some clients over it. You can't trust people like that, and for good reason.

john joe - imo: i would imagine that the permanent and non-retrievable tattooing of an artwork, commissioned by the recipient or other third-party, onto a person's body would on construction amount to a complete assignment of copyright in that item, rather than a mere license to 'wear' it. The tattoo is a part of Condit and a part of Condit's image rights, to dispose of as he/his image-right owners see fit.

source: trained as a lawyer before deciding to get a proper job, whereupon i started writing about cage-fighting

Stupid attempted bullshit money-grab; be interesting to see the court verdict on this one

Would this also apply to Wanderlei's tattoos?

I know they are both used in promotional items. I would imagine he bought the rights off the tattoo artist, correct?

AssAssassin - Let's not forget these big corporations wouldn't hesitate to sue anybody if you copied some of their artwork. They would sick their entire legal team on you and run you into the ground, regardless of whether their claim was just or not. We see this kind of bullshit all the time in copyright laws that favor corporations. I am not opposed to an artist retaining rights to his artwork.

yellow wrkahlc - 

btw, LMFAO at such a generic tribal tattoo warranting a copyright and lawsuit. Tyson's artist must be soooo damn creative.

Tolstolobic -  It depends on commercial rights if one can make money of other people's work.