UnderGround Forum >> Caesar call his student a sissy n says he better

ManWithTheIronFists - Ceasar "fake Gracie"

No Caesar fighter has been involved anywhere for a long long time bro.  Shakespeare wrote about it I think.

irishman84 - Caio is posting on the "Caio Terra" thread now. SN is Dan Black or some shit

Johnny Ringo -  I support Cesar 100% on this. Loyalty is lost on most MMA "teams" now. But Loyalty is everything at Cesar's.

It's one thing in you train at Extreme Couture or some super gym like that and you leave or do something like this bc there are scores of coaches and guy fighting from there who most likely don't even train with everyone or even get coached by each coach. It's more of a business relationship and that's that.

At Cesar's they are a right knit group an they bleed for each other day in and day out. Cesar gives everything he has to his fighters and they in turn hive that to their teammates and only expect loyalty and respect.

It's the old way and IMHO and it's the right way, especially for a smaller gym who has, by the true definition of the word, a TEAM.

Anyone who goes into that camp and expects to not be held accountable and loyal is either and idiot or has a huge ego and thinks the rules won't apply to them.

Great fucking post.  VTFU

It's kind of funny that almost everyone negative toward Cesar on here can't spell his fuckng name.  You can say you were just trolling, but we all know you're really just stupid.

I'm sure Caio can give two fucks. He's a grown man(something Cesar could learn from) with his own shit. He isn't bound by some fake loyalty crap. Besides he's started up his own association...so this is probably a blessing.

People extend their hand to someone...and think they're entitled to more. Kind of a selfish way of "helping" others.

6ULDV8 - 

Johnny Ringo -  I support Cesar 100% on this. Loyalty is lost on most MMA "teams" now. But Loyalty is everything at Cesar's.

It's one thing in you train at Extreme Couture or some super gym like that and you leave or do something like this bc there are scores of coaches and guy fighting from there who most likely don't even train with everyone or even get coached by each coach. It's more of a business relationship and that's that.

At Cesar's they are a right knit group an they bleed for each other day in and day out. Cesar gives everything he has to his fighters and they in turn hive that to their teammates and only expect loyalty and respect.

It's the old way and IMHO and it's the right way, especially for a smaller gym who has, by the true definition of the word, a TEAM.

Anyone who goes into that camp and expects to not be held accountable and loyal is either and idiot or has a huge ego and thinks the rules won't apply to them.

Great fucking post.  VTFU

 

It's kind of funny that almost everyone negative toward Cesar on here can't spell his fuckng name.  You can say you were just trolling, but we all know you're really just stupid.

Jason Reinhardt - I've always placed loyalty above all. And i must say, i like to see such strong loyalty with Cesar's team. I've always admired it. Especially in this day and age with mma.."there seems to be no frikin loyalty anymore" Growing up in the traditional martial arts as a young child, you wouldn't even have thought about even going to another Academy to practice. (not too mention, training a fighter where the potential is there for him to fight his own team-mate. For what? Money? Well, sorry, you can't place a price-tag on strong friendships. (especially, when they are very hard to find! This is why i've always loved Cesar Gracie Juijitsu's camp. Cesar has it right and seems to run a tight ship. I love that. Personally for me, this is how i feel. To each his own though. $$ isn't everything!

youarewhatiswrong - 

6ULDV8 - 

Johnny Ringo -  I support Cesar 100% on this. Loyalty is lost on most MMA "teams" now. But Loyalty is everything at Cesar's.

It's one thing in you train at Extreme Couture or some super gym like that and you leave or do something like this bc there are scores of coaches and guy fighting from there who most likely don't even train with everyone or even get coached by each coach. It's more of a business relationship and that's that.

At Cesar's they are a right knit group an they bleed for each other day in and day out. Cesar gives everything he has to his fighters and they in turn hive that to their teammates and only expect loyalty and respect.

It's the old way and IMHO and it's the right way, especially for a smaller gym who has, by the true definition of the word, a TEAM.

Anyone who goes into that camp and expects to not be held accountable and loyal is either and idiot or has a huge ego and thinks the rules won't apply to them.

Great fucking post.  VTFU

 

It's kind of funny that almost everyone negative toward Cesar on here can't spell his fuckng name.  You can say you were just trolling, but we all know you're really just stupid.

We probably just don't care enough about him to note how he spells his name. It's probably not even his real name anyway.

I rest my case, your honour.

"Loyalty" is a double-edged sword.

LilBrockonmychest - 

DAVID H - 

Jason Reinhardt - I've always placed loyalty above all. And i must say, i like to see such strong loyalty with Cesar's team. I've always admired it. Especially in this day and age with mma.."there seems to be no frikin loyalty anymore" Growing up in the traditional martial arts as a young child, you wouldn't even have thought about even going to another Academy to practice. (not too mention, training a fighter where the potential is there for him to fight his own team-mate. For what? Money? Well, sorry, you can't place a price-tag on strong friendships. (especially, when they are very hard to find! This is why i've always loved Cesar Gracie Juijitsu's camp. Cesar has it right and seems to run a tight ship. I love that. Personally for me, this is how i feel. To each his own though. $$ isn't everything!

This. MMA is a dirty business and loyality is rare.

Cesar appears to want loyalty from his students but apparently has no problem turning on people.  Have you seen Dan Black post on these threads?  Said he was with Cesar for 14 years and was kicked out for no reason and basically that loyalty is a joke when it comes to Cesar.  I imagine he'd know more than us.

Jason Reinhardt - David, ya i know. it's sucks. Loyalty is something which should be held above all when it comes to running an Academy and developing a team. Without Loyalty, you have basic a bunch of shallow minded people running around kicking and punching. I speak from experience...i see guys where all they are concerned about is me me me, and fuck everyone else. The word "TEAM" should have a very strong meaning to it! Because when all the smoke clears and all the fighting is over (because you can't fight forever), then what do you have if you haven't been Loyal to your team and friends? One will find themselves Alone in this unforgiving world of fighting.

Jason Reinhardt - $$$$...the root of all evil!

Brother, you really said a mouthful.

When all the shit goes down and I have a group of people that have my back and I have theirs thick and thin, your printed pieces of paper won't mean jack shit, except maybe for kindling.  

Everything is all about $$$ and that's fucked.  Tons of things are more important.

Terra isn't a student of his correct?

He has his own gym, his own accomplishments and didn't get his BB from Cesar.

He is just an affilate school? I think Terra's resume speaks for itself.

• World Black Belt Champion (2008);
• 5x World No Gi Champion (2009, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012)
• American Nationals Champion – No Gi (2012 absolute)
• 4x Mundials Silver Medallist (World Championships – 2011, 2010, 2009, 2005 blue belt)
• Pan American Gold Medal (2011)
• Pan American Silver Medal (2010)
• No Gi World Championship Silver Medal (2008)

Either way, I think it is a chicken shit way of Cesar to handle his business.

It was no secret Terra was with Condit (Has been for a few weeks) Cesar waits until NOW to say something?

Cesar posts online that he better keep his ass away from them in a threatening tone. Professional....

12SixElbow - 

Either way, I think it is a chicken shit way of Cesar to handle his business.

It was no secret Terra was with Condit (Has been for a few weeks) Cesar waits until NOW to say something?

Cesar posts online that he better keep his ass away from them in a threatening tone. Professional....

 

While Caio may look like a little girl.....Cesar does a pretty good job of acting like one.