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11/18/12 2:52 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Jason Reinhardt 81 Member Since: 3/21/02 Posts: 7026	i always hate to see falling outs. I experienced enough of that shit at Miletich's with different guys at the gym. And I always hated seeing it. Be Loyal to your instructor/coach! This is martial arts. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 2:55 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Jason Reinhardt 81 Member Since: 3/21/02 Posts: 7027	And i am not bashing Caio. Heck, i don't even know the man. I'm sure he's a good guy or Cesar would never had brought him over in the first place. $$ changes certain people. My question is, did he ask Cesar first? You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:00 PM

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12SixElbow 386 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Jason Reinhardt - i always hate to see falling outs. I experienced enough of that shit at Miletich's with different guys at the gym. And I always hated seeing it. Be Loyal to your instructor/coach! This is martial arts.

I think the sillyness is that Terra is not a student of Cesar, he doesn't even train in the building.

He is a completely seperate entity who has an affiliate gym.

11/18/12 3:05 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
cheesesteak 129 Member Since: 11/23/02 Posts: 2558	HolyAvengerP5 - as a caio hater, i vote you up Just curious. What's the reason to hate Ciao. I know he is a little dorky looking and all, but he seems like a real nice kid. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:06 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
dan black Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 6780	?"Historically the owners have used loyalty to a team or a city to hold players as opposed to paying their worth." -Lynn Swann You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:07 PM

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Jason Reinhardt - i always hate to see falling outs. I experienced enough of that shit at Miletich's with different guys at the gym. And I always hated seeing it. Be Loyal to your instructor/coach! This is martial arts.

I see where you're coming from and always appreciate the inside info, but guess I don't understand it as things change and MMA seems different to me versus the old school martial arts. BJ Penn and Hughes had a strong rivalry and seemed to have become friends and train/trained together in Iowa and Hawaii. What are your thoughts on that? Would you consider Hughes disloyal for helping BJ? It seems Penn has trained with pretty much every camp out there and I think that's what makes him so good. Here in Vegas, the guys go around to all different schools to help each other out. It's not like Coutures and Wand Fight Team are huge rivals or anything. I don't know...maybe I'm wrong but it seems like most teams train with other teams all the time.

11/18/12 3:08 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
6ULDV8 220 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 12311	Jason Reihardt, you sir have beaten the living fuck out of the truth all over the place tonight. I keep getting reminded I can't vote you up again. Please keep being awesome. TTT You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:09 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
HOLLYWOOD-MO Member Since: 5/30/03 Posts: 33512	dan black - My point was I used to beat the living shit out of Caio and he is 10x better than Edgar which in perspective makes me glad I never ran into Edgar or I'd be in jail for murder.. fagit What do you mean, you beat up Caio? Did he ever train standup? You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:15 PM

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HOLLYWOOD-MO

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LilBrockonmychest -
Jason Reinhardt - i always hate to see falling outs. I experienced enough of that shit at Miletich's with different guys at the gym. And I always hated seeing it. Be Loyal to your instructor/coach! This is martial arts.

I see where you're coming from and always appreciate the inside info, but guess I don't understand it as things change and MMA seems different to me versus the old school martial arts. BJ Penn and Hughes had a strong rivalry and seemed to have become friends and train/trained together in Iowa and Hawaii. What are your thoughts on that? Would you consider Hughes disloyal for helping BJ? It seems Penn has trained with pretty much every camp out there and I think that's what makes him so good. Here in Vegas, the guys go around to all different schools to help each other out. It's not like Coutures and Wand Fight Team are huge rivals or anything. I don't know...maybe I'm wrong but it seems like most teams train with other teams all the time.

Caesar's thinking is from an old school Brazilian mentality. Back then, everyone who trained stayed with one camp, or only trained with affiliated camps. It was territorial, tribal, and was mostly because of the split of Gracie family.

Everyone branched off, went their own way, and if you started to affiliate with another camp, you were considered a traitor (creonte).

You are thinking about things from an individualist perspective, ie, get your wrestling from one guy, go train bjj with someone else, learn again from another camp...basically become the best fighter you can be. There's nothing wrong with that thinking, but obviously it doesn't vibe well with old school brazilian mentality

11/18/12 3:16 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
LayzieTheSavage 13 Member Since: 3/26/09 Posts: 7769 www.middleeasy.com, Editor/Videographer	Just interviewed Cesar, it's going to be on MiddleEasy soon. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:17 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
dan black Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 6781	Kim Terra > Caio Terra /end of thread You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:19 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
dan black Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 6782	You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:23 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
GayGuardMooseSaucy 279 Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 8583	LayzieTheSavage - Just interviewed Cesar, it's going to be on MiddleEasy soon. Oh yes You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:29 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
cdmontgo 8 Member Since: 7/30/06 Posts: 7544	dan black - ?"Historically the owners have used loyalty to a team or a city to hold players as opposed to paying their worth." -Lynn Swann This. It wasn't like Caio was getting the credit there anyway. He'll be fine without them. The whole thing is blown out of proportion. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:35 PM

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Tat2tillidie 196 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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12SixElbow -
LayzieTheSavage - Got the boot from the Gracie Fighter team today.

World Black Belt Champion (2008);

5x World No Gi Champion (2009, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012)

American Nationals Champion – No Gi (2012 absolute)

4x Mundials Silver Medallist (World Championships – 2011, 2010, 2009, 2005 blue belt)

Pan American Gold Medal (2011)

Pan American Silver Medal (2010)

No Gi World Championship Silver Medal (2008)

Some how I think he was bringing more to the table than they were. He will do just fine on his own in BJJ without a link to Gracie Fighter

He should become the main bjj coach for josh koschek's dethrone base camp ... Phone Post

11/18/12 3:43 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
SeaTea Member Since: 8/17/11 Posts: 2	cheesesteak - HolyAvengerP5 - as a caio hater, i vote you up Just curious. What's the reason to hate Ciao. I know he is a little dorky looking and all, but he seems like a real nice kid. He is known somewhat as a whiner and excuse maker. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:46 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
LilBrockonmychest Member Since: 2/24/07 Posts: 8003	SeaTea - cheesesteak - HolyAvengerP5 - as a caio hater, i vote you up Just curious. What's the reason to hate Ciao. I know he is a little dorky looking and all, but he seems like a real nice kid. He is known somewhat as a whiner and excuse maker. Guy must really hate Cesar then. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 3:46 PM

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HOLLYWOOD-MO -
LilBrockonmychest -
Jason Reinhardt - i always hate to see falling outs. I experienced enough of that shit at Miletich's with different guys at the gym. And I always hated seeing it. Be Loyal to your instructor/coach! This is martial arts.

I see where you're coming from and always appreciate the inside info, but guess I don't understand it as things change and MMA seems different to me versus the old school martial arts. BJ Penn and Hughes had a strong rivalry and seemed to have become friends and train/trained together in Iowa and Hawaii. What are your thoughts on that? Would you consider Hughes disloyal for helping BJ? It seems Penn has trained with pretty much every camp out there and I think that's what makes him so good. Here in Vegas, the guys go around to all different schools to help each other out. It's not like Coutures and Wand Fight Team are huge rivals or anything. I don't know...maybe I'm wrong but it seems like most teams train with other teams all the time.

Caesar's thinking is from an old school Brazilian mentality. Back then, everyone who trained stayed with one camp, or only trained with affiliated camps. It was territorial, tribal, and was mostly because of the split of Gracie family.

Everyone branched off, went their own way, and if you started to affiliate with another camp, you were considered a traitor (creonte).

You are thinking about things from an individualist perspective, ie, get your wrestling from one guy, go train bjj with someone else, learn again from another camp...basically become the best fighter you can be. There's nothing wrong with that thinking, but obviously it doesn't vibe well with old school brazilian mentality

did cesar even train jiu jitsu in brazil

11/18/12 3:57 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
dan black Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 6783	You have ignored this user.

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Joshua J King Member Since: 9/15/11 Posts: 3414	PJ Benn Fan - How I prefer to remember Cesar..... That looks just like me! Wait I'm white! How can I look like a Gracie? You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 9:36 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
cheesesteak 129 Member Since: 11/23/02 Posts: 2565	I think Ciao's bjj is way to cloth grabby and sporty for MMA You have ignored this user.

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KUIndustries 5 Member Since: 5/15/02 Posts: 13718	He's a 5 time no gi world champ? You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 10:03 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
kying418 13 Member Since: 12/1/00 Posts: 14464	cheesesteak - I think Ciao's bjj is way to cloth grabby and sporty for MMA 5x blackbelt world champ...no gi. You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 10:06 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
GayGuardMooseSaucy 279 Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 8584	Holy fucking shit when I last posted here a few hours ago wasn't Layzie in Iike the positive 70s??? How'd he get voted down so bad You have ignored this user.

11/18/12 10:31 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
LayzieTheSavage 13 Member Since: 3/26/09 Posts: 7773 www.middleeasy.com, Editor/Videographer	GayGuardMooseSaucy - Holy fucking shit when I last posted here a few hours ago wasn't Layzie in Iike the positive 70s??? How'd he get voted down so bad something happened with my account. it got temporarily suspended for some odd unknown reason and then all the sudden all my vote ups were gone You have ignored this user.

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