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OtherGround Forum >> 5 Bizarre Secret Societies that run the world
| 11/19/12 5:24 PM | |
JustPeed
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| 11/19/12 5:26 PM | |
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hiptosser
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Redneck -also masons call the masses profane.. so yes they do seem to believe they are part of some higher class. The Levites called un-iniated the "dead", Jesus the light of the world raised the dead. Masons also have used the terms gentile and goyim to describe the masses as well IRC |
| 11/19/12 5:27 PM | |
RoyMunson
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I'm a Elks lodge member. Lots of fun, not much of a secret society per say. |
| 11/19/12 5:36 PM | |
Tiresias
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shen -Lol @ this bullshit! You don't get to see the step until you are at least 30th degree.
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| 11/19/12 5:39 PM | |
notsometourist
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| 11/19/12 5:39 PM | |
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hiptosser
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The Masons are puzzling to me. The Blue Lodge is full of codified ritual, occult symbolism but it seems like it is more are less like a greek fraternity (albeit with responsible members of the community interest in civic improvement and socialising). Then the Scottish Rite is even more esoteric, Hebrew and Kabbalah are involved, but it seems like just ceromonialy. IS there actually a point in Freemasonry where esoteric studies are taken more seriously? Is the point to expose members to the old knowledge, sorrund them with it and by osmosis they learn? There are several Masonic writers who go deep and definitley took the esoteric seriously in their Masonic studies ,like Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas. There are a lot who play it down and say it is a bunch of play acting. I confuse? |
| 11/19/12 5:45 PM | |
Cookie Monster
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I'm an Oddfellow AND a Mason !!! *wrings hands* Mu-HA HA HA!!!! 
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| 11/19/12 5:53 PM | |
Mencken
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PoWdA101 -Mencken -PoWdA101 -EVILYOSHIDA - the illuminati were a short lived group but left their mark on freemasonry and all the other secret societies. How about the strength of the human will? Or aliens? Hell, you can even think of gravity as a "higher power". Gravity don't give a fuck |
| 11/19/12 5:55 PM | |
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subbed
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Layers upon layers. If you fools even knew the top layer...
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| 11/19/12 5:58 PM | |
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Jarvis73
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| 11/19/12 5:58 PM | |
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garythekid
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Redneck -Is that asparagus?
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| 11/19/12 6:30 PM | |
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Spidermonkey
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| 11/19/12 6:39 PM | |
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EFeeez
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| 11/19/12 6:47 PM | |
Johnny Ringo
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Love this topic. Only thing I know is Crowley was a fucking über weirdo and I can't see anything he was involved in lasting much longer past his own death, at least under the same ideologies he held. Freemasons are a smoke and mirrors group, a decoy. If anything it the smaller "boys clubs" within freemasonry, but nothing visible to an outsider. Skull and Bones... Now that's some serious new age, currant, relevant power and influence. Don't take my word for it, just do your own research. The other I'm not as educated on but would definitely love to learn more!
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| 11/19/12 6:54 PM | |
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Frostie
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Interdasting
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| 11/19/12 7:01 PM | |
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Roman Monstrum
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The stuff that is the most interesting to me is that which has never been brought to light, the government secret groups big pharma etc, not the so called secret societies that have public websites. The real conspiracies. Real secret societies rather than societies with secret are no doubt the scariest.
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| 11/19/12 7:15 PM | |
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hiptosser
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Johnny Ringo - Love this topic. Crowely had a tremendous impact. The debate would be how large the impact actually was not if his influence lasted after he died. |
| 11/19/12 7:17 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3217 |
What about the Jesuits. That group would make the top 5 in a lot of 'researchers' lists. |
| 11/19/12 7:21 PM | |
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hiptosser
Member Since: 9/19/07 Posts: 3218 |
Roman Monstrum - The stuff that is the most interesting to me is that which has never been brought to light, the government secret groups big pharma etc, not the so called secret societies that have public websites. The real conspiracies. Real secret societies rather than societies with secret are no doubt the scariest. One could argue that these cabals MIC, Big Pharma, Central Bankers, Bilderbergers etc. are populated by the iniates of these not secret societies. That the real agenda of some of these groups is being manifested by their participation or controll of government of business interests. |
| 11/19/12 7:37 PM | |
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Roman Monstrum
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hiptosser -Doesnt make sense, these people wouldn't want to be part of organizations where they are written down amd recorded. In masonic lodges it is as easy as looking in a book to see if so and so was a mason.Roman Monstrum - The stuff that is the most interesting to me is that which has never been brought to light, the government secret groups big pharma etc, not the so called secret societies that have public websites. The real conspiracies. Real secret societies rather than societies with secret are no doubt the scariest. The real movers and shakers wouldn't be around if they made the mistake of joining groups that would draw the attention of conspiracists etc. Thats one of the reasons I alwaya think its funny that masons, oddfellows etc are used as examples in these theories. They would be the worst at keeping secret major plots because even at the highest echelons there are thousands ofn members. No, I think it far more likely that the real conspiracies remain hidden, far away from potential prying eyes. "Secret" societies are the easiest to get secrets from. The truly powerful dudes would have enough dirt under their fingers to shy away from any kind of limelight. Say there were super secret boxes within boxes in the masons, thats like the best place for them because everyone "knows" to scrutinize them. Far more likely that if there is any vast conspiracy around masonry, its a use of the group as a distraction to keep conspiracists and researchers attention away from the real secrets.
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| 11/19/12 8:01 PM | |
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TheBankster
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E Clampus Vitus- what say the brethren??
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| 11/19/12 8:34 PM | |
Redneck
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EVILYOSHIDA -Redneck -also masons call the masses profane.. so yes they do seem to believe they are part of some higher class. Fuck man, I just wrote a really detailed reply and this forum fucked me over and I lost it when I hit send. I'm posting from work right now, but i'll try to repost it a bit later.
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| 11/19/12 8:36 PM | |
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Roman Monstrum
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Redneck -Dont you hate that?EVILYOSHIDA -Redneck -also masons call the masses profane.. so yes they do seem to believe they are part of some higher class.
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| 11/19/12 8:40 PM | |
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Redneck
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hiptosser - Red we talked about how the OTO is not the boogey man many seem to think it is. Interesting.
I don't know anything about the OTO in the USA, but as someone else stated earlier, it's rare to hear people include the OTO in any of these conspiracy theories about world domination.
What I can tell you is that I know some dudes from the Aussie chapter of the OTO, and they are completely oblivious to the shit many people think they get up to. They also have no clue whatsoever about the activities of the Freemasons, and there is no connection between the two groups at all. I tell them stuff that is common knowledge to us and it really blows their mind sometimes, lol. |
| 11/19/12 9:02 PM | |
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WillyMaunawili
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Redneck -No ways man, seriously? That's a travesty if that's true.RoyMunson - I got another VU for you as soon as I get to a comp.
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