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11/19/12 10:26 PM

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NastyNate420 3 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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irishman84 -
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irishman84 - ha of course you are right; i'm a mental midget. and "fighter" or "combatant" isn't a categorical variable which, concerning the history of bouts featuring fighters/ combatants competing outside their natural divisions, could be analyzed and described as random vs displaying correlation to quantitative variables like record, discrepancy in size relative to opponent, or age. I probably took the same fucking STATS 144 & 174 classes you did bud.

In our discussion, "fighter" or "combatant" would be used as a nominal level of measurement, while record, weight, etc. would be variables. You truly mean to tell me you believe there would be no correlation between weight and record?

no like i said i agree with pretty much everything u said including how the game has changed from the old school era of specialist. Your outlier comment was what made me go about about the whole "its not random which guys had success moving up or down aka outliers". Outliers implies a random exception to the pattern and while i agree the guys that have success are the exception (to the weight-record correlation), i dont agree that its random and unethical or whatever u want to call it for the few, best-of-the-best, to fight outside their div. and while the fighters in the situation we were debating arent a classic quantitative variable, they are categorical. look into categorical variable.

I understand that, but "fighters/combatants" aren't something that we are picking/choosing, they aren't variables in our particular case, in our situation they're nominal levels of measurement. If we had a survey and your favorite fighter was the question, than the answer would be a categorical variable, but in our particular case it (fighter/combatant) is what we're measuring. I do understand what you're saying now though, I don't believe it's unethical , I just think if GSP wants to fight in his division instead of going up in weight he shouldn't be frowned upon. I actually believe it makes moral sense for him to stay at WW, there's a good heap of contenders at WW, it's not fair to make an entire division wait. As a fan, I'm not clamoring for GSP and Silva, but if it happens I will watch it with excitement, I'm just not crying for it.

11/19/12 10:55 PM

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UGCTT_I Got Fitched Up -
There are already 5-20 lb weight discrepencies in every division as it is....

The gap between GSP/Andy in the cage would be less than 10 pounds. I can name DOZENS of fights over the last couple years where this happens. Sonnen was 215-218 vs Silva and Andy was 198. The "bigger guy wins" theory is bullshit. Edgar beat Maynard dispite giving up 10-15lbs.

Not according to what gsp says. He claims he fights at around 184 and Silva is around 205 Phone Post

11/19/12 11:19 PM

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NastyNate420 3 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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irishman84 - Well we just killed our keyboards for nothing then lol. Id like to see the fight but not at a catch. Its stupid unless the result is one guy holding multiple belts. Ive always figured either George would go up and try to take Andys MW title or vice versa. im still not conceding this categorical variable point but its all good. Good luck with the PA program. Im on the same track

Thanks, I actually just got accepted to the BSN program at Sac State, so I'm going to start there and then head to practitioner school. I agree with you on that one too, if they are going to fight, why fight at a catch weight? It doesn't make sense. GSP might as well go up and try to be the first guy to hold two titles at once. If he wins he has GOAT status, and if he loses it was the foregone conclusion.

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