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Kostakio 529 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 50487	KZTT_JonJones'sPublicist - greenseed - fat refs are bad for the sport Fat people are bad for the world! How many fat people have influenced the course of history? America has only had 1 fat president for a reason. Not sure if serious... You have ignored this user.

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MattyECB 51 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Zed Wayne Zed - Joe came off like a douche that time.

Whatever, still a fan, just needs to watch his mouth like everyone else on TV.

All goods.

I thought he was on point about the gay comment. It was wrong to do because of the medium and that there might be younger people watching, but he said absolutely nothing derogatory or homophobic.
Not a single element of that joke portrayed homosexuals or homosexual sex in a negative light, nor did it imply a discomfort or fear of homosexuals.

I mean if he said that Hendricks' right hand finishes more consistently than a 13 year old's, or that Diaz likes to pound in the pocket harder than a straight man leaving prison, or that Chonan scissors harder than Rachel Maddow -- I wouldn't expect sex-starved teenagers, straight men or lesbians to get offended.

He'd be simply picking a dominant form of sexual activity for each demographic, and making a silly comparison to a fighter.

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UGCTT_Benwahwah 48 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 21297	I do want to add that I am still a Rogan fan, I just think he is dead wrong on this. I didn't even mind when he said it. If he'd just admitted it was a joke in poor taste then fair enough, I laugh at way sicker shit. It's him trying to explain his way out of it that is pissing me off. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 4:03 PM

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Kostakio - Okay, here are my thoughts, if anyone cares. But let me preface them by saying that I am maybe the biggest Joe Rogan fan ever so it's tough to be brutally honest as I'm about to be.

It's obvious that Joe, for whatever reason, didn't put too much thought into what he said that night when it came to non-MMA commentary and now he's too proud to fully admit he was wrong/apologize and is instead trying to justify his actions. And well, that's okay because we have ALL done that at some point in our lives. Sometimes your ego takes the reins and it's hard to wrestle them back.

By the way, much respect and admiration for you, Benwahwah, for posting your pic. You seem like a cool dude and I can understand how you or anyone remotely chubby would take offense. The truth is that Joe shouldn't have said those jokes (on air) and kept them strictly for his friends... or even the UG. But whatever... as people who are 'all one' whether we like it or not, we have to realize that we've at one time engaged in similar behavior and therefore must be forgiving.

With that said, I still love and enjoy Joe Rogan no matter what. He could call my dad a "fat faggot" and I'd LOL because he's a lovable dude (no homo).

Word.

And for the new or casual fans who might not know who rogan is or what he stands for these kind of jokes might not be so funny. And all of the people who watched the fights wont listen to the podcast and hear him explain it and apologise. Phone Post

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Bentleysuper8 150 Member Since: 4/9/05 Posts: 1935	So by Joe's rationale, Roy Nelson would be unqualified to be a ref? So if you're a big man you can FIGHT in the octagon but not ref in it? Joe should just man up and confess he's full of shit on this one. You have ignored this user.

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Anderson P Sonnen 279 Member Since: 6/15/12 Posts: 626	Actual referee size Size of referee after listening to the Joe Rogan experience You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 4:07 PM

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I think Rogan's offering a rationalization to appease the higher ups, just in case they're watching. But I think he shouldn't.

His comments are entertaining. If someone hears them, then decides UFC isn't for them because of that, they shouldn't be watching anyway.

UFC carries with it a subculture of sophomoric humor and violence, so if an edgy non-PC joke hurts your delicate sensibilities, you should switch on PBS rather trying to make the whole world confirm to you. Phone Post

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Malagant 14 Member Since: 6/4/11 Posts: 52	Why are people such fucking Pussies nowadays? OMG he called me Fat FML! You have ignored this user.

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Kostakio 529 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 50488	Anderson P Sonnen - Actual referee size Size of referee after listening to the Joe Rogan experience haha (Sorry, Joe!) You have ignored this user.

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6ULDV8 227 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 12481	I nodded my head through everything he said, and people's kids would have no idea what that meant anyway. Joe is like the adults talking funny, and I appreciate it. Rock on Rogan. You rule. You have ignored this user.

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dwhy83 - I think Rogan's offering a rationalization to appease the higher ups, just in case they're watching. But I think he shouldn't.

His comments are entertaining. If someone hears them, then decides UFC isn't for them because of that, they shouldn't be watching anyway.

UFC carries with it a subculture of sophomoric humor and violence, so if an edgy non-PC joke hurts your delicate sensibilities, you should switch on PBS rather trying to make the whole world confirm to you.

I disagree with pretty much everything you posted, but especially this:

"UFC carries with it a subculture of sophomoric humor and violence, so if an edgy non-PC joke hurts your delicate sensibilities, you should switch on PBS rather trying to make the whole world confirm to you." Phone Post

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ManWithTheIronFists Member Since: 11/10/12 Posts: 94	It seemed as if he said it because he didn't like the ref because he kept separating the fighters while they were clinching against the fence. He did come off as a douche that night. I'm not fat nor gay but yeah it was a douche move. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 4:13 PM

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I understand where Joe was coming from. A larger, more unfit ref would have problems not only with stopping the fight in time but generally getting in the way of the action.

Their sheer size would limit their mobility not to mention lack of muscle memory affecting agility.

However the ref wasn't THAT fat. Just a big dude. Hence his comments could be perceived as prejudice

My comments are 100% subjective. Please negate my username for this post.

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dummythrust Edited: 11/21/12 4:20 PM Member Since: 2/4/11 Posts: 339	i liked during gsp - condit when goldberg said "headkick!" and joe went "lmao! telegraphed!" - and then condit came back with a headkick that almost ended the fight edit: but he also just did a les stroud podcast so all is forgiven You have ignored this user.

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UGCTT_Benwahwah 48 Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 21298	Also what about Kim Winslow and any other female referee for that matter. Should the athletic commission be looking into whether they should reffing bouts between men? No of course not because that would be sexist bullshit. You have ignored this user.

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Chris27 501 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I dont even remember how fat the guy was but I agree with Rogan, you need to be able to run across the cage and stop a fight to keep someoen from being hurt. maybe he was saying it as a joke and didnt realize it would grow into something bigger and the ref aint really that fat but I agree on the surface with what he is saying.

There should be some limits to a refs weight, also that female ref, is she able to stop someone from beating on a dude if he doesnt let go of a sub? Sure if every fighter is 100 percent respectful and listens when you say stop but we've seen refs have to pull guys off and pull them to stop a sub, can that female ref do that?

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AbbottMary 24 Member Since: 11/3/12 Posts: 43	Why doesn't the ref just lose weight? probably the best solution. You have ignored this user.

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HexRei Edited: 11/21/12 4:33 PM Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 11534	LOL. UG Blog. You have ignored this user.

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MattyECB -
Zed Wayne Zed - Joe came off like a douche that time.

Whatever, still a fan, just needs to watch his mouth like everyone else on TV.

All goods.

I thought he was on point about the gay comment. It was wrong to do because of the medium and that there might be younger people watching, but he said absolutely nothing derogatory or homophobic.
Not a single element of that joke portrayed homosexuals or homosexual sex in a negative light, nor did it imply a discomfort or fear of homosexuals.

I mean if he said that Hendricks' right hand finishes more consistently than a 13 year old's, or that Diaz likes to pound in the pocket harder than a straight man leaving prison, or that Chonan scissors harder than Rachel Maddow -- I wouldn't expect sex-starved teenagers, straight men or lesbians to get offended.

He'd be simply picking a dominant form of sexual activity for each demographic, and making a silly comparison to a fighter.

Well, it did imply that Lance Bass does ass fucking, which is a stereotype. Not all gay dudes do ass fucking. And believe it or not, plenty of straight dudes assfuck. So while I see your point, it was still basically poking fun at the particular stereotype of gay men that Joe happens to buy into.

Yes he's a comedian, we all know this, and he is expected to say shocking stuff in the name of jokes, but when it mixes in with his role as a representative of the sport is where it gets weird.

Huge Rogan fan here, btw.

11/21/12 4:26 PM

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WikiTheWalrus 13 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Roy Nelson is fat. Does Joe think Roy wouldn't be fit enough to be a ref? Of course Roy is fit enough to be a ref. But Joe knows that because he knows who Roy is. Rogan had no idea who that ref was or his qualifications when making the comment, so he was basically talking out of his ass. That ref could be a beast on the mat and Rogan wouldn't know it because he didn't even know the ref's name. So Rogan was judging the guy and not on his abilities, but his looks as a means to discredit the ref's ability.

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Kostakio 529 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 50490	AbbottMary - Why doesn't the ref just lose weight? probably the best solution. lol You have ignored this user.

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Bartholomew P Skibbenheims III Member Since: 10/1/10 Posts: 357	KZTT_JonJones'sPublicist - greenseed - fat refs are bad for the sport Fat people are bad for the world! How many fat people have influenced the course of history? America has only had 1 fat president for a reason. You must have slept during history class. You have ignored this user.

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