OtherGround Forum >> Treasonous Republicans Want to Secede....

MickColins - 

MattyIce -

MickColins -  Take a look at the map of counties during the last election. A handful of cities basically elected the president. If I lived outside of those cities, I'd be pretty annoyed about that.

It never ceases to amaze me that they allow only the cities with actual people in them to elect our leaders.

IMO, those cities that only have a few people living in them should have their votes count double. It's only fair.

Isn't the point of the electoral college that politicians can't just cater to certain cities/areas?

Showers With Sandusky - The electoral college is a joke. Should be a straight up popular vote.

Thage - 

Showers With Sandusky - The electoral college is a joke. Should be a straight up popular vote.

I think it should be evaluated.

However that would have changed several of the last few elections, but not the current one Obama won that's causing people to want to break up the union.

IDXtreme - I think the treasonous act was Lincoln preventing the constitutional right to secede. We have been stripped of our rights ever since.

Seeing as the SCOTUS determined that secession was unconstitutional in Texas v. White, it's hard to back up Lincoln as being treasonous, and that's probably one of the dumber things ever written on this forum.

BTW, yea, we would have been MUCH better off if the US had been split. Jesus.

Thage - What's funny, is that conservatives (rank and file) don't understand that congressional republicans have gerrymandered the districts so much that they easily cover having a majority in the house and try their best to keep it so that democratic leaning areas have less representation. This just doesn't work or help them cope when the president wins the popular vote and a landslide on the electoral college.

LittleJoeMama - Libtards had to suffer through 8 years of Dubya so this is only fair.

pfsjkd - 

IDXtreme - I think the treasonous act was Lincoln preventing the constitutional right to secede. We have been stripped of our rights ever since.

Seeing as the SCOTUS determined that secession was unconstitutional in Texas v. White, it's hard to back up Lincoln as being treasonous, and that's probably one of the dumber things ever written on this forum.

BTW, yea, we would have been MUCH better off if the US had been split. Jesus.

IDXtreme - 

Thage - What's funny, is that conservatives (rank and file) don't understand that congressional republicans have gerrymandered the districts so much that they easily cover having a majority in the house and try their best to keep it so that democratic leaning areas have less representation. This just doesn't work or help them cope when the president wins the popular vote and a landslide on the electoral college.

You call winning with less votes than McCain lost with a landslide? Also, can you demonstrate where gerrymandered the districts is not a Democrat tactic?

BTW I am not representing the GOP here. Both are corrupt sides of the same coin.

Trichoke7 - Secession is a human right, according to the Declaration of Independence.

MisterFixit -  These successionist yards don't even realize they're net consumers of federal dollars. They obviously listen to too much talk radio.

Indeed.

It's really the mooching liberals IN those red states that make them that way though. When the secession is over, those Conservative states can just kick out all the lazy liberals and be left with all the hard workers.

Thage - 

IDXtreme - 

Thage - What's funny, is that conservatives (rank and file) don't understand that congressional republicans have gerrymandered the districts so much that they easily cover having a majority in the house and try their best to keep it so that democratic leaning areas have less representation. This just doesn't work or help them cope when the president wins the popular vote and a landslide on the electoral college.

You call winning with less votes than McCain lost with a landslide? Also, can you demonstrate where gerrymandered the districts is not a Democrat tactic?

BTW I am not representing the GOP here. Both are corrupt sides of the same coin.

I said a "landslide on the electoral college"


You don't think 332 to 206 is a landslide in that vote?

Reading comprehension. I didn't say in the popular vote, or even votes counted as turnout was severely lower than the last election something that hasn't happened in over 20 years I believe.

The fact that your trying to twist my words there and pretend that gerrymandering hasn't helped republicans it's not worth discussing. No one said "only republicans" use it, but it's absolutely helped them most recently in states and in the house.

Trichoke7 - Secession is a human right, according to the Declaration of Independence.

but that was addressing grave injustices. i can see where there are things that a lot of people don't like, but the flips side is a more people do like them. is the fact that some people might have to pay a slightly higher tax burden really an issue worthy of us killing each other in the streets and tearing apart the union?

IDXtreme - 

pfsjkd - 

IDXtreme - I think the treasonous act was Lincoln preventing the constitutional right to secede. We have been stripped of our rights ever since.

Seeing as the SCOTUS determined that secession was unconstitutional in Texas v. White, it's hard to back up Lincoln as being treasonous, and that's probably one of the dumber things ever written on this forum.

BTW, yea, we would have been MUCH better off if the US had been split. Jesus.

Just because an activist SCOTUS said it was doesn't make it right. Need I point out their recent ruling on obamacare?

activist court? it's a conservative court

Scotland, Ireland and Wales have the same idea wise guy.

IDXtreme - 

pfsjkd - 

IDXtreme - I think the treasonous act was Lincoln preventing the constitutional right to secede. We have been stripped of our rights ever since.

Seeing as the SCOTUS determined that secession was unconstitutional in Texas v. White, it's hard to back up Lincoln as being treasonous, and that's probably one of the dumber things ever written on this forum.

BTW, yea, we would have been MUCH better off if the US had been split. Jesus.

Just because an activist SCOTUS said it was doesn't make it right. Need I point out their recent ruling on obamacare?

You're getting dumber by the second. Whenever someone says 'activist court' it translates to 'one that I don't happen agree with'. Tough shit. The rule of law set up by the Constitution is that the SCOTUS has the last word on constitutionality. Don't like? Get enough support to ammend the Constitution. Oh, wait, that's hard to do, right? Instead, I guess I'll just bitch about how 'activist' the court is.

pfsjkd - 

IDXtreme - 

pfsjkd - 

IDXtreme - I think the treasonous act was Lincoln preventing the constitutional right to secede. We have been stripped of our rights ever since.

Seeing as the SCOTUS determined that secession was unconstitutional in Texas v. White, it's hard to back up Lincoln as being treasonous, and that's probably one of the dumber things ever written on this forum.

BTW, yea, we would have been MUCH better off if the US had been split. Jesus.

Just because an activist SCOTUS said it was doesn't make it right. Need I point out their recent ruling on obamacare?

 

You're getting dumber by the second. Whenever someone says 'activist court' it translates to 'one that I don't happen agree with'. Tough shit. The rule of law set up by the Constitution is that the SCOTUS has the last word on constitutionality. Don't like? Get enough support to ammend the Constitution. Oh, wait, that's hard to do, right? Instead, I guess I'll just bitch about how 'activist' the court is.

 

Rouge Mod -

Trichoke7 - Secession is a human right, according to the Declaration of Independence.

According to the seceders, yes. So England just let the colonies go, did they?

Rouge Mod - 

Trichoke7 - Secession is a human right, according to the Declaration of Independence.

According to the seceders, yes. So England just let the colonies go, did they?