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Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Black Belt Perry Hauck shows a basic side control escape from the "Overhead Roll Series". (The Overhead Roll Series is a group of escapes that can be performed from the bottom of: side control, knee-on-belly, scarfhold & reverse scarfhold, all utilizing the same grips.) This escape is best utilized when your opponent has the far under-hook and is applying a lot of pressure to your upper body. This sort of "attachment" between opponents is precisely when rolling escapes like this one work best. The Overhead Roll Escape from Side Control [opponent is on your right side]: 1) Push away opponent's head with your (L) arm, to make space between your opponent's right biceps and the right side of your neck. 2) Grab opponent's (R) biceps with your right hand (thumb-less grip). 3) With your LEFT hand, grab your opponent's belt on the FAR side of his spine. If his belt is loose, you can grab a handful of gi along with the belt. If there is no belt to grab, simply cup his far (R) lat with your left hand. 4) "Drop" you LEFT elbow, applying downward pressure on the back of your opponent's neck. This will both prevent any possibility of your opponent applying an Arm Triangle Choke and it will disrupt his posture, make the roll much easier. 5) To perform the actual "Overhead Roll", you want to create a point of contact between your (R) elbow and the front of your opponent's (R) hip --or as close as you can get. This can be done innumerable ways. The method shown above is simply to walk to your left to create space then (without letting go of the biceps grip!) "scoop" your upper body under your opponent until your right elbow touches his right hip.However you do it, once that contact is made, that is the proper moment to do the escape --not before. NOTE: you are NOT "pulling" the opponent towards your left side, but rather PUSHING him over your head/left shoulder with your right elbow. The motion is essentially an "upa". If you take your opponent to the left, the sweep can be easily stopped by posting. With this sweep, because of the angle, even if your opponent posts, it will not stop the sweep. Also, it is MUCH easier to take your opponent over your head, rather than to the left.
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My apologys's  accidently locked the thread should be unlocked now and open to everyone. 

11/21/12 11:04 PM
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Nice video, I'm a huge fan of all proper bridges.  Some people don't like to teach bridges because they mistake them for not being technical - but a proper bridge definitely has a lot of technique and variation depending on the set up being used and the position it is being executed from.

Unfortunately for me, this particular bridge is useless because I don't train with the gi... although I could modify it a bit and use it to give people an atomic wedgie :)  But it was a good break down, thanks for putting it up and thanks Snapple for posting it.

11/22/12 12:21 AM
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^Marcos, I actually don't  grab the belt anymore.  The issue I run into is the belt  will slide if it's tied losely.  I find the belt sliding or rotating on me and my pull isn't as strong.   I grab the gi on the opposite side of the back by the latts.  A lot less give and I feel it's more secure.   

Haven't tried it nogi yet but you could try grabbing the opposite side of the lat.  

love this technique and have been hitting it like crazy at the gym!

11/22/12 12:59 AM
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^Marcos, I actually don't  grab the belt anymore.  The issue I run into is the belt  will slide if it's tied losely.  I find the belt sliding or rotating on me and my pull isn't as strong.   I grab the gi on the opposite side of the back by the latts.  A lot less give and I feel it's more secure.   

Haven't tried it nogi yet but you could try grabbing the opposite side of the lat.  

love this technique and have been hitting it like crazy at the gym!


no gi wrap the head,i chase the 1/2 guard when i do this move,most of the time the bigger guys ( hold tighter) start heading north away and roll right into the reversal

11/22/12 1:10 AM
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and if they dont i get the 1/2 back

11/22/12 1:27 AM
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^ 12, are you head locing them basically?  Do you grip with your hand on anything like the chin?  I am curious on the details on how you secure the hold or grip. 

Thank you for the tip by the way.

11/22/12 2:49 AM
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Thank YOU guys!

--And I agree with Marcos; bridging escapes can be just great. I'm very into them because I am lazy and find them to be the easiest route to escape in many cases. When the set-up/angle are "right", they can be effortless. But, of course, when the set-up/angle is "off" they feel pointless.

One minor revelation I had --which far better grapplers already knew-- is a bridge doesn't have to succeed 100% as a reversal in order to be useful. Of course, we all know about bridging to make space, but I am referring more to things such as trying to roll your opponent most of the way over then completely ABANDONING the bridge and getting to your knees instead. The space made by a "failed" bridge can be invaluable IF you have the mindset to "bail out" early enough and follow up as soon as you feel it isn't going to work. The problem is, psychologically, we are often SO committed to the bridge working 100% and getting on top that we hold on too long and lose that opportunity.

Not "Rickson-like" insight by any means, but realizing that little thing helped me see a second option when I try to bridge someone over, whereas before I only thought in terms of success/failure when it came to a bridge reversal.
11/22/12 3:01 AM
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Love the technique, reminds me of my good old Judo days!

11/22/12 3:10 AM
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Does it work if you're not fat ?
11/22/12 3:25 AM
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blackmonkey - Does it work if you're not fat ?



No. No it does not.
11/22/12 8:12 AM
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Definitely, me too!
11/22/12 9:22 AM
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Really underrated escape.

I'm curious, would you ever consider spinning under for a brabo/D'Arce choke if the guy somehow managed to stall out the reversal? Seems that it would be a very slight adjustment away.
11/22/12 10:22 AM
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Nice, I like it. Phone Post
11/22/12 1:18 PM
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Great escape Shen! That's a hard position for a lot of people to get out of.
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Adding this to my game ASAP! Thanks Phone Post
11/22/12 2:03 PM
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Shemhazai - Really underrated escape.

I'm curious, would you ever consider spinning under for a brabo/D'Arce choke if the guy somehow managed to stall out the reversal? Seems that it would be a very slight adjustment away.



Yeah... I know what you're talking about.

Personally, I would not because I almost never release my initial grips when in this position. The utility of this "game" is that no matter where the opponent goes, you can reverse them WITHOUT changing grips. With this position, there is a lot more available to roll the opponent than first meets the eye. But, if I let go I lose those options.

--Then again, I'm "conservative", I always look to get on top, then go for submissions. For someone else it might be a great option!
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One consistent typo with the written description of the technique: you mean your opponent's left arm/bicep not his right. Phone Post
11/22/12 2:17 PM
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^ 12, are you head locing them basically?  Do you grip with your hand on anything like the chin?  I am curious on the details on how you secure the hold or grip. 

Thank you for the tip by the way.


yes the chin,guard recovery is what im after,if i get the reversal,it the cherry on top.
11/22/12 2:28 PM
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X_Rated -  One consistent typo with the written description of the technique: you mean your opponent's left arm/bicep not his right. Phone Post

Oh man... you are so right, thank you, I will change that.
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There's a neat variation of this where if you align your bodies you can pretty much just log roll them over right? Phone Post
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^

Yes... bridge over your RIGHT shoulder and walk your lower body away until you form a straight line with your opponent. Then, drop your hips and pull your opponent over you as you immediately bridge left. It has a lot of torque --sort of like a gi version of a gut wrench.

Good to use when the person who has you in side control has backed-up and put his belly on the ground in order to resist the basic roll.


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