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11/21/12 6:45 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
T-Ham 227 Member Since: 3/14/06 Posts: 17511	LOL @ butthurt fatfucks. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 6:46 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
TheMessiah 68 Member Since: 6/22/10 Posts: 1232	Who gives a shit? When did MMA fans become such complainers and cry babies.. He was making a joke and already said it won't happen again.. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 6:47 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
ufcman187 Member Since: 4/30/11 Posts: 401	Rogan cracks me up. It's not like he said " Lance Bass is trying to get into the UFC so he can get behind some guys and bang bro ". You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 6:48 PM

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ChokeEmOut

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Joe should simply STFU and call the fights, I never heard him complain about that woman ref. That dude is not some obese person. John McCarthy nor Dan Mirgliotta aren't shredded up monsters either and have lots of fat on them too.

Fact is Joe, not a goddamn person is going to do anything to any fighter who chooses not to stop swinging. Just drop it and move on.

LMAO @ "puts fighters health in jeopardy".

11/21/12 6:51 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
BertR Member Since: 11/10/09 Posts: 251	joe's reasoning was dumb because the whole need to call out the guy for being "fat" when he just has a potbelly is dumb. The issue was stupid to bring up but joe had a need or compulsion to criticize the guy so he looked to justify it. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 6:52 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
greg155 Member Since: 10/22/09 Posts: 511	the ref is fat and lance bass is gay. bam, just explained it You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:02 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
behzad Member Since: 1/12/10 Posts: 2580	stayrad - behzad - Sugar Dick - Bunch of sensitive pussies. Who cares, that shit was funny It was funny when i was 13. I grew up, so should u. Are you 14 now? Happy birthday I wish You have ignored this user.

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GreatCornholio Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 7083	Stupid comments but he is still the best commentator in the business. Lets not lunch him, unless you look forward to play by play from Mauro. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:03 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun Member Since: 2/27/08 Posts: 15508	I guess if you live in Africa you would say that guy is fat, I thought he was carrying around a lil too much weight but nothing that would interfere with him taking 3 steps to stop a fight lol You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:05 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
xXJayRobXx Member Since: 9/17/12 Posts: 184	I think it was misinterpreted. Joe was really talkin about a speed factor, getting their in time to signal the end of the fight, usually by making contact with the fighter on the offensive. Not whether or not the ref is strong enough to wrestle a large fighter off another. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:06 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
xXJayRobXx Member Since: 9/17/12 Posts: 185	Although he shouldn't have made the comments on the air. To which he said wouldn't happen again. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:13 PM

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darmy 2 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Juggernautt -
UGCTT_Benwahwah -
Complete Bullshit on Joe Rogan's part if you ask me. I am fat (the pic of me should prove that), if I was reffing the fight then fair enough.

Ok that guy was biggish but nowhere near as fat as Rogan is making out. He goes on about the guy not being able to stop people from beating each other up but he doesn't question Steve Mazzagatti or Mario Yamasaki who are smaller dudes. I'm pretty sure if the heavy weights wanted to continue fighting there isn't a lot they could do.

So nice try on worming out of it Joe, but I ain't buying it.

I agree on that. No way a tiny dude like yves lavigne gets a fighter to stop who doesnt want to

They aren't there to be personnel protection, they're there to ref a fight. If he calls a stop to it and a heavyweight killing machine decides he wants to carry on bludgeoning someone, who the fuck is gonna be able to stop him?

Simple answer, we need ten refs, all in the cage at the same time. Phone Post

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Kostakio 455 Member Since: 1/16/05 Posts: 50491	ranier wolfcastle - i like that joe is real instead of politically correct Me too. But you can be real and not insult people unwarrantedly. Just my opinion. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 7:40 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Domenico Member Since: 3/20/07 Posts: 1204	FatLoser - Joe Rogan is a terrible comedian bullish, loud, using terrible stereotypes this is just par for the course. the UFC has a culture of puffed up big men types who are desperate to be domineering and controlling to the "weak". these comments were firstly nonsensical and secondly offensive. but people shouldn't be surprised. The comments were not nonsensical. You have ignored this user.

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rockfists 13 Member Since: 11/17/04 Posts: 6165	Using Joe Rogans logic (I like Joe and his commentary), women refs should not be in there either? Has he mentioned this in air? He is correct though, a woman would have a hard time breaking up two alpha males. However, Joe is back peddling. The fat joke was a fat joke. If he had a problem with the refs, the ufc has had the female in there more than a few times. You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 8:07 PM

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octowussy

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Zed Wayne Zed - Joe came off like a douche that time.

Whatever, still a fan, just needs to watch his mouth like everyone else on TV.

All goods.

I thought he was on point about the gay comment. It was wrong to do because of the medium and that there might be younger people watching, but he said absolutely nothing derogatory or homophobic.
Not a single element of that joke portrayed homosexuals or homosexual sex in a negative light, nor did it imply a discomfort or fear of homosexuals.

I mean if he said that Hendricks' right hand finishes more consistently than a 13 year old's, or that Diaz likes to pound in the pocket harder than a straight man leaving prison, or that Chonan scissors harder than Rachel Maddow -- I wouldn't expect sex-starved teenagers, straight men or lesbians to get offended.

He'd be simply picking a dominant form of sexual activity for each demographic, and making a silly comparison to a fighter.

Eh. To me, it implies that Lance Bass is promiscuous, which is a common gay stereotype.

I'm a fan of offensive comedy (protip: just calling someone "gay" or "fat" stops being "comedy" when you turn thirteen), but the Lance Bas crack was a groaner and te bit about the ref wasn't a joke, it was just mean-spirited. Phone Post

11/21/12 8:09 PM

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FatLoser - Joe Rogan is a terrible comedian bullish, loud, using terrible stereotypes this is just par for the course.

the UFC has a culture of puffed up big men types who are desperate to be domineering and controlling to the "weak". these comments were firstly nonsensical and secondly offensive. but people shouldn't be surprised.

i think he is pretty funny. Listening to him on pandora is probably the most i have laughed in years. Only joke i thought wasnt funny was something about real men eat pussy or something like that lol

11/21/12 9:15 PM

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MattyECB 50 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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HexRei -
MattyECB -
Zed Wayne Zed - Joe came off like a douche that time.

Whatever, still a fan, just needs to watch his mouth like everyone else on TV.

All goods.

I thought he was on point about the gay comment. It was wrong to do because of the medium and that there might be younger people watching, but he said absolutely nothing derogatory or homophobic.
Not a single element of that joke portrayed homosexuals or homosexual sex in a negative light, nor did it imply a discomfort or fear of homosexuals.

I mean if he said that Hendricks' right hand finishes more consistently than a 13 year old's, or that Diaz likes to pound in the pocket harder than a straight man leaving prison, or that Chonan scissors harder than Rachel Maddow -- I wouldn't expect sex-starved teenagers, straight men or lesbians to get offended.

He'd be simply picking a dominant form of sexual activity for each demographic, and making a silly comparison to a fighter.

Well, it did imply that Lance Bass does ass fucking, which is a stereotype. Not all gay dudes do ass fucking. And believe it or not, plenty of straight dudes assfuck. So while I see your point, it was still basically poking fun at the particular stereotype of gay men that Joe happens to buy into.

Yes he's a comedian, we all know this, and he is expected to say shocking stuff in the name of jokes, but when it mixes in with his role as a representative of the sport is where it gets weird.

Huge Rogan fan here, btw.

I get what you're saying fully and absolutely straight people have anal sex too, but you lost me at not all gay people have anal sex...

I mean, not all straight people enjoy anal sex for whatever reason, but if you're homosexual, unless you're a poor soul limiting yourself to oral, you kinda need to be fucking someone's asshole. I'd agree not all gay people get fucked, but you're probably going to be putting your dick in a dude at some point lol

And having had a pretty large amount of gay friends, older sister is a ballet dancer so I've always grown up around homosexuals, I can't say I've met one who only had blowjobs or handies... that would really suck for them :/

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rockafella Member Since: 4/15/07 Posts: 436	Since when did it stop being funny making fun of fat and gay people? What am I missing here? You have ignored this user.

11/21/12 9:21 PM

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Kostakio - Okay, here are my thoughts, if anyone cares. But let me preface them by saying that I am maybe the biggest Joe Rogan fan ever so it's tough to be brutally honest as I'm about to be.

It's obvious that Joe, for whatever reason, didn't put too much thought into what he said that night when it came to non-MMA commentary and now he's too proud to fully admit he was wrong/apologize and is instead trying to justify his actions. And well, that's okay because we have ALL done that at some point in our lives. Sometimes your ego takes the reins and it's hard to wrestle them back.

By the way, much respect and admiration for you, Benwahwah, for posting your pic. You seem like a cool dude and I can understand how you or anyone remotely chubby would take offense. The truth is that Joe shouldn't have said those jokes (on air) and kept them strictly for his friends... or even the UG. But whatever... as people who are 'all one' whether we like it or not, we have to realize that we've at one time engaged in similar behavior and therefore must be forgiving.

With that said, I still love and enjoy Joe Rogan no matter what. He could call my dad a "fat faggot" and I'd LOL because he's a lovable dude (no homo).

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11/21/12 9:22 PM

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MattyECB 50 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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^^ But not to come off as defending his comments as appropriate, I'm totally on board with this being a stupid thing to say -- which Rogan agreed with.

And as Octowussy mentioned above, I can see someone finding it offensive if they interpreted it as implying that homosexuals are all promiscuous.

I guess I just never think of gay men as wanting to fuck more, just as only being able to fuck other gay men, i.e. fuck anally. So if someone wants to make a mediocre joke about it, meh. Anyways, the funny thing in this thread is almost no one really disagrees lol

Everyone thinks the joke was either mildly funny or mildly offensive, and everyone thinks it was inappropriate lol So I'll stop arguing across people who I actually agree with XD

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thebasher Member Since: 11/18/05 Posts: 4307	I thought the gay joke was offensive because that's who they are and their lifestyle whereas fatties choose to be fat and should be targets for fun as a result imho You have ignored this user.

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32Hunter 7 Member Since: 6/16/07 Posts: 13094	Joe needs to speak up about female refs then. if he's worried about refs being able to seperate fighters. You have ignored this user.

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