Dominick Cruz Has 2nd ACL Surgery, Out 6-9 Months

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12/4/12 5:07 PM

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Motivated Penn 47 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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JayBRO - Why the HELL did he go the cadaver route????? That is absolutely ridiculous for an athlete who's career depends on the outcome of this surgery to choose an option so outdated that most surgeons don't even offer it anymore.

(Yes I've had my ACL completely torn and rebuilt... Via patellar tendon)

Because they want to get a black guys ligaments/tendons to get that extra advantage. He should see if he can get Jovan Belcher's. He'd be flying around the Octagon in 6 months.

Oh laaawd. Curse this 1 Vote up pr day limit. I'mma make a note of it and give you another vote up tomorrow. I laughed :D

12/4/12 5:20 PM

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Gholmes - I have two cadaver ligaments (ACL and MCL). It's been 3 years and knee works great. I train hard too.

Doctors have definite opinions on which method is better. Hamstring and knee ligament usage have their own drawbacks as well. The skill of the surgeon is more important than the method anyway hence Doctors preference for methods they've done well and often.

The issue here is the rejection, which is very rare these days. I'm not sure rejection is the whole story. Your body doesn't reject something months later. It would be almost immediate. It could be a botched surgery where Cruz's knee wasn't responding to rehab (because the new ligament didn't line up) as it should and upon a 2nd opinion they decided to redo it.

My cousin got a full ride for soccer until she blew out her knee. Without a frat, she wishes that she had gone the goretex route. I have a couple family members who are in the medical field (1 doctor, 1 nurse), and they both are steadfast that goretex is the way to go. Good to hear that it went well for you though. Best wishes.

12/4/12 6:11 PM

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Shakwon 13 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I talked to 4 doctors before making my decision on getting a cadaver graft, this was 7 months ago, not the early 2000s like some posters. The type of graft varied by doctor, some pushed patella tendon, some pushed hamstring, others recommended cadaver. In my talks with the doctors, they basically all said, its best to find a doctor who is comfortable with the type of graft you want. They said, there is no conclusive medical literature that says one type of graft is better than another. There are pros/cons on each. If one type of graft was clearly better then all doctors would use that graft, but that simply isn't the case.

I've heard Joe Hogan talk about having lingering issues with his patella tendon grafted knee and no issues with his cadaver graft knee.

12/4/12 6:11 PM

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Gholmes 6 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Mix6APlix -
Gholmes - I have two cadaver ligaments (ACL and MCL). It's been 3 years and knee works great. I train hard too.

Doctors have definite opinions on which method is better. Hamstring and knee ligament usage have their own drawbacks as well. The skill of the surgeon is more important than the method anyway hence Doctors preference for methods they've done well and often.

The issue here is the rejection, which is very rare these days. I'm not sure rejection is the whole story. Your body doesn't reject something months later. It would be almost immediate. It could be a botched surgery where Cruz's knee wasn't responding to rehab (because the new ligament didn't line up) as it should and upon a 2nd opinion they decided to redo it.

My cousin got a full ride for soccer until she blew out her knee. Without a frat, she wishes that she had gone the goretex route. I have a couple family members who are in the medical field (1 doctor, 1 nurse), and they both are steadfast that goretex is the way to go. Good to hear that it went well for you though. Best wishes.

Debating which method is better is worthless. GSP got patellar tendon grafting. You're telling me the elite doctors he consulted are wrong too. Surgeon skill and how you rehab are just as important. My surgeon happens to be a friend of 25 years. I believe I got the best advice too. Every graft choice has pros and cons.

Who's to say Cruz wasn't doing stupid exercises on the knee too early where any type of graft wouldn't hold. Reading the article, rejection seems to be the wrong term. It sounds like he blew it out again. That's not a rejection.

12/4/12 6:14 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Gholmes 6 Member Since: 3/12/02 Posts: 251	Mix6APlix, I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't want people reading this, who may someday face the choices of knee surgery, to automatically dismiss cadaver grafts as one of several options. You have ignored this user.

12/4/12 6:41 PM

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Gholmes -
Mix6APlix -
Gholmes - I have two cadaver ligaments (ACL and MCL). It's been 3 years and knee works great. I train hard too.

Doctors have definite opinions on which method is better. Hamstring and knee ligament usage have their own drawbacks as well. The skill of the surgeon is more important than the method anyway hence Doctors preference for methods they've done well and often.

The issue here is the rejection, which is very rare these days. I'm not sure rejection is the whole story. Your body doesn't reject something months later. It would be almost immediate. It could be a botched surgery where Cruz's knee wasn't responding to rehab (because the new ligament didn't line up) as it should and upon a 2nd opinion they decided to redo it.

My cousin got a full ride for soccer until she blew out her knee. Without a frat, she wishes that she had gone the goretex route. I have a couple family members who are in the medical field (1 doctor, 1 nurse), and they both are steadfast that goretex is the way to go. Good to hear that it went well for you though. Best wishes.

Debating which method is better is worthless. GSP got patellar tendon grafting. You're telling me the elite doctors he consulted are wrong too. Surgeon skill and how you rehab are just as important. My surgeon happens to be a friend of 25 years. I believe I got the best advice too. Every graft choice has pros and cons.

Who's to say Cruz wasn't doing stupid exercises on the knee too early where any type of graft wouldn't hold. Reading the article, rejection seems to be the wrong term. It sounds like he blew it out again. That's not a rejection.

Yea definitely seems more likely that he was trying to push himself too much and reinjured his ACL. His surgery was in June and they are just finding out now his body rejected the allograft?

Doing some quick searches I saw this from a site talking about the causes of failed ACL surgeries, "Rejection of allografts is in fact a rare occurrence. In cases of rejection, the signs are apparent within a few days of the operation and the graft must be removed on an urgent basis. "

12/5/12 3:46 AM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
Shakwon 13 Member Since: 10/9/10 Posts: 297	^^^ To somewhat edit my above comments. I don't necessary think he blew it out again, could be an issue with the surgery. I just don't think the body rejects a ligament months later, from what I've read it's pretty immediate. You have ignored this user.

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