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12/5/12 12:45 AM
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RoyalRailer 47 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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There is a great video of Piers Morgan getting owned by Ron Paul on a similar question on war...

I'll try and find it...
12/5/12 12:51 AM
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All of the foreigners stating opinions about our gun laws being too relaxed need to keep their crap opinions to themselves. Phone Post
12/5/12 12:56 AM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT -  All of the foreigners stating opinions about our gun laws being too relaxed need to keep their crap opinions to themselves. Phone Post

Piers is just mad that the last time the Americans talked about their gun rights, his ass was kicked out of our country.
12/5/12 1:09 AM
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That was a hot exchange, i'd let her sit on my face. LOL at this whole new gun control controversy that has sprouted out of thin air.
12/5/12 7:35 AM
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Let's talk about Constitutional interpretation!

Originalism is the theory that the meaning of the Constitution is fixed, at the time the particular section was ratified. The argument for originalism can be summarized as follows: the purpose of drafting a legal document is to reduce uncertainty regarding the obligations of the parties, and the Framers included an amendment process to allow for future changes.

Others argue the Constitution is a living document, especially those clauses that are open-ended or ambiguous. Also, the plain text isn't always plain: who presides over the impeachment of the Vice President?

Turning to gun control, Piers' statement isn't fact. The framers were well-aware of technological advancements. Several of them were inventors, and they enabled Congress to protect inventors. We don't limit the Bill of Rights to 18th Century technology. Imagine the outrage if the Court held that Freedom of the Press didn't apply to Twitter. On the other hand, the 2A doesn't protect the right to have any weapon whatsoever. The Court has been down that road, and established a test based on the text of the Constitution AND the historical context of the document AND the challenges of a changing society.
12/5/12 7:58 AM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT - Piers should leave his British ideals in his homeland. He agreed to the constitution when he moved here. If he doesn't like it then he can carry his ass back to England. Phone Post
Don't want him back here! We only just got rid of the self important sack of pig shit Phone Post
12/5/12 8:05 AM
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ksac - So I can has a nuclear weapon then?
Why the fuck not?! Phone Post
12/5/12 8:07 AM
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ksac - So I can has a nuclear weapon then?
Why the fuck not?! Phone Post
Actually, the more I think about it- if you pay taxes to Uncle Sam the you so has one lol Phone Post
12/5/12 8:09 AM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT - Piers should leave his British ideals in his homeland. He agreed to the constitution when he moved here. If he doesn't like it then he can carry his ass back to England. Phone Post
Please dont make us take him back. Phone Post
12/5/12 8:13 AM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT - All of the foreigners stating opinions about our gun laws being too relaxed need to keep their crap opinions to themselves. Phone Post
Oh calm down Sally Phone Post
12/5/12 8:13 AM
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Shogun of Harlem - LOL, the OG Liberals didn't like it too much, but didn't comment. I did get 3 vote downs in less than 5 mins. Bitches get stitches.

Voted up.

I wish we had something like the 2nd here...

12/5/12 8:23 AM
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12/5/12 9:42 AM
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12/5/12 9:46 AM
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12/5/12 9:46 AM
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12/5/12 9:53 AM
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LOL.

The anti-gun crowd are obviously pro-rape.
12/5/12 9:54 AM
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That shut him up pretty Damn fast Phone Post
12/5/12 10:00 AM
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UGCTT_VA757_GJTT - All of the foreigners stating opinions about our gun laws being too relaxed need to keep their crap opinions to themselves. Phone Post
Oh calm down Sally Phone Post
It's the truth though Phone Post
12/5/12 10:10 AM
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ksac - So I can has a nuclear weapon then?

was it ever illegal to own a canon?

12/5/12 10:16 AM
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Obviously they both have the interpretation wrong, this guy has it right....

12/5/12 10:22 AM
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So what do I need to pack to protect myself from an Obama drone attack?
12/5/12 10:28 AM
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She wrecked his ass. Phone Post
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alxholic - So what do I need to pack to protect myself from an Obama drone attack?

an attack golden eagle

12/5/12 10:30 AM
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ksac - So I can has a nuclear weapon then?

was it ever illegal to own a canon?


I don't know. The "same weaponry" argument is a bit silly. I've never met anyone that thought it was a good idea to have unrestricted weapon access. Hell, the gun enthusiasts I've met seem to get uppity when others even have the material to make nuclear weapons (supported taking out Iraq because of claims to be making weapon-grade fissionable material).

Most people draw the line somewhere and it's not at "same weaponry".
12/5/12 10:31 AM
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you asked the question with an implied answer....so if the supreme court never ruled a canon (the most damaging weapon of their time) is illegal to own, why would they ever put a limit on it?


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