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UnderGround Forum >> Shogun & his takedowns...
| 12/5/12 6:01 PM | |
Ledepic
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Member Since: 9/23/08 Posts: 64 |
Does anybody else notice that during every fight Shogun has in the UFC, Joe Rogan will mention how it's strange or surprising that Shogun is going for the takedown? I love Joe and I love his commentary but I always wonder how he convinced himself that Shogun is some sort of 1 dimensional/stand up only fighter... Shogun has tried and succeeded in getting his opponent down in every UFC fight aside from the Machida fights. He was even recently able to take down Vera repeatedly, something Couture couldn't do once! Let's see how shocked Joe is when Shogun tries to take down Gus on Saturday... |
| 12/5/12 6:08 PM | |
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OSBtro11
Member Since: 12/30/11 Posts: 771 |
Dudes wrestling is a little overlooked forsure. 
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| 12/5/12 6:09 PM | |
EEKS
Member Since: 1/22/07 Posts: 4232 |
He gasses out every time he goes for a takedown. |
| 12/5/12 6:18 PM | |
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yellow's Willin
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Member Since: 4/20/11 Posts: 3656 |
I doubt he goes for the TD since Alex has been training with Phil Davis for a while now. He will stand with T Rex arms Gustaffson. 
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| 12/5/12 6:26 PM | |
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Ledepic
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Member Since: 9/23/08 Posts: 65 |
Phil Davis doesn't mix his strikes with takedowns with the same fluidity that Shogun does. Vera has been training wrestling with Davis for even longer than Gus has... |
| 12/5/12 6:35 PM | |
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slamming
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Member Since: 5/28/08 Posts: 10080 |
It sometimes feels like Joe doesn't watch any fights to prep for an event. Shogun goes for takedowns in almost every fight. It's hardly "surprising" Joe.
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| 12/5/12 6:36 PM | |
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Itsalwaysunnyintacoma
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Member Since: 12/27/11 Posts: 30 |
Shogun by right counter to the side of the dome |
| 12/5/12 8:21 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4541 |
Bendo Smooth'd out my Butthole 2.0 -yellow's Willin - I doubt he goes for the TD since Alex has been training with Phil Davis for a while now. He will stand with T Rex arms Gustaffson.LOL everyone trains with the best in each department..should that stop everyone from doing everything? Lmao He took Chuck down when only a few of us thought it would happen. If he can keep Gus down it's game over. Shogun a real good BJJ player and has great GNP. He'll need to kick and mix up his strikes if he can not. |
| 12/5/12 8:40 PM | |
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EckY
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Member Since: 5/11/06 Posts: 6551 |
He has good takedowns and trips, managd to get Rampage, Overeem and even Coleman down who are all known to have good takedown defence. His takedown defence on the other hand isn't great. |
| 12/6/12 2:35 AM | |
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burner22
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Member Since: 8/17/12 Posts: 394 |
EckY -Makes me wonder wether Gus may try and take shogun down?
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| 12/6/12 2:35 AM | |
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burner22
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Member Since: 8/17/12 Posts: 395 |
^ especially early on when shogun is at his most dangerous
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| 12/6/12 2:40 AM | |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 9039 |
Shogun's top game has always been better than his striking. He has pretty good takedowns, but can't defend them at all. Kind of weird imo
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| 12/6/12 3:02 AM | |
Joshua J King
Member Since: 9/15/11 Posts: 3556 |
He usually goes for the BJJ bear hug leg trip takedown and depends on that and helicopter sweeps as his grappling. Rua has a submission grappling game but uses these as transitions. Joe knows this. FFs you all know that Rogan is doing commentary for noobs and so forth.
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| 12/6/12 3:17 AM | |
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Vidz
Member Since: 10/17/12 Posts: 9 |
I don't think its Rogan believing that Rua is one dimensional, I think its more about him believing Rua's striking is so good, not even just good, but better than his opponents in his UFC bouts that he shouldn't even be looking for a takedown as he would be able to outstrike them on the feet. |
| 12/6/12 4:35 AM | |
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slamming
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Member Since: 5/28/08 Posts: 10081 |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Shogun's top game has always been better than his striking. He has pretty good takedowns, but can't defend them at all. Kind of weird imo There was a reason he was so successful in Pride with his top game...stomps, knees and soccer kicks. |
| 12/6/12 4:41 AM | |
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explodin
Member Since: 6/25/05 Posts: 2430 |
EckY -100% spot on.. His trips are ridiculous and come out of nowhere. They way he transactions from a strike right into a trip is amazing.. But I wouldn't be surprised to hear "wow, and shogun goes for a takedown, I don't think anyone was expecting that"
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