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UnderGround Forum >> Shields to Hendricks: "Quit crying"
| 12/6/12 8:29 PM | |
MMFT
Member Since: 11/24/12 Posts: 10 |
Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. The argument can easily be made that Diaz didn't lose that fight. It should have at least been a draw/rematch. Everyone who tries to bash Diaz for that "loss" is stupid. That fight was as close as it gets, and in my opinion he won three of those rounds.but I digress... I have no iissue with this match up. GSP asked for it, and considering how close the condit/Diaz fight was, GSP/Diaz will be a foty candidate. |
| 12/6/12 8:30 PM | |
Lahzerous
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Member Since: 8/9/11 Posts: 4400 |
gracie - Jake went down there and they wore boxing gloves with takedowns and gnp. Mike Swick was so upset that he was dominated so badly by Jake that he threw a tantrum..grabbed his shit..and left!!!! Kind of a dick move there buddy. |
| 12/6/12 8:31 PM | |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 9053 |
Deuce77 - Hendricks is just a flavor-of-the-year type fighter. He hasn't earned a shot yet.What exactly do you think someone needs to do to earn a shot then? Can you name a single contender who has done as much as him to earn a title fight? 
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| 12/6/12 8:32 PM | |
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Deuce77
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Member Since: 4/13/06 Posts: 6510 |
^^^ Nick Diaz. |
| 12/6/12 8:35 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4597 |
MMFT -Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. Condit won all be it by an unpopular but smart plan PERIOD. GSP will destroy Nick. WTF can he even do but be owned via TD at will and controlled while getting bloodied up? Only thing to do is bet it. |
| 12/6/12 8:36 PM | |
Neil McCauley
Member Since: 12/13/11 Posts: 2694 |
Sal Penis - SHIELDS IS A BOSS and still one of the best p4p fighters on the planet. |
| 12/6/12 8:38 PM | |
Jaybrone
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Member Since: 11/9/10 Posts: 5960 |
Shields doesn't have the stand up tp beat Hendricls standing. And I don't think he out wrestles him. Where does he win this? And what has Nick done that is "more" than Hendicks? No offense to EliteXC and Strikeforce he never had to face a top ten WW. Hendricks has faced 2 in his last 3 and Kos was arguably top 5 going into that fight. Nick is a good fighter but has never proven it against top competition. |
| 12/6/12 8:45 PM | |
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MMFT
Member Since: 11/24/12 Posts: 11 |
Lazer MMA -MMFT -Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. Well you get your opinion and I get mine. I had no problem with his gameplan. He was way more aggressive than people make him out to be in that fight. But he didn't become effective until round three. And if you don't have round five for Diaz then you have to have score it a draw. So why would you think Diaz has no chance with gsp if condit almost finished him, and Diaz just beat condit (IMO)? And to answer you other question, it's called juijitsu... Nick is pretty good at iit ... and it happens to be kryptonite to wrestling. And getting punched in the face makes it kinda hard to takedown at will. Not saying Diaz has this, but it's certainly not a mismatch, and its not like the decision is shocking. |
| 12/6/12 8:47 PM | |
BshMstr
Member Since: 10/13/09 Posts: 1151 |
....Hendricks has KO'd 2 guys who have never been KO'd before, and Shields' stand up looks like friggen' Frankstein walking for the first time, and he's gonna talk smack? i think he's just grasping at straws, and hoping to make himself relevant, somehow. |
| 12/6/12 8:50 PM | |
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RangerDanger
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Member Since: 1/13/10 Posts: 276 |
Damn, I don't think the guys at AKA will like that comment. 
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| 12/6/12 8:52 PM | |
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Jaybrone
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Member Since: 11/9/10 Posts: 5961 |
Deuce77 - ^^^ Nick Diaz. You are joking right? You can't seriously say Nick has done more lately to deserve the shot more than Hendricks. I am not saying I am not excited for teh Diaz vs. GSP fight and I am looking forward to it. But to say Hendricks doesn't deserve it more is ridiculous. |
| 12/6/12 8:56 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4599 |
MMFT -Lazer MMA -MMFT -Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. Um, I gave rd.3 to Diaz I believe and 1, 4 and 5 to Condit. No matter GL with your fighter and you do have a right to your opinion too. Yes I'm betting real big just like I did on JBJ (Vs Sonnen - at about -637 average lol stealing!)and say it's a complete mismatch and GSP clowns him completely and on the ground he owns Nick. $$ in the bank is my thought no question. Have a nice night |
| 12/6/12 8:58 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4600 |
Jaybrone -Deuce77 - ^^^ Nick Diaz. Um, no he's not and that is the beauty of this. Waiting on betting line |
| 12/6/12 8:59 PM | |
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Nonlinear
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Member Since: 4/5/07 Posts: 1924 |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Lol @ 'Nicks done more than you." This is such blatant troll attempt to try and get a big fight. Should be expected when you see your friend lose a fight, talk shit about the sport, quit, keep talking mad shit about the champion and get rewarded with a big money PPV title fight by the King of MMA. |
| 12/6/12 9:08 PM | |
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 9054 |
Deuce77 - ^^^ Nick Diaz.So wins over Noons, Cyborg, Daley, Penn and a loss to Condit is better than beating Waldburger, Pierce, Fitch, Kos and Kampmann? Hendricks also has the the higher finish rate in his last 5 fights and finished his top 2 opponents rather than take them to a decision. Hendricks has done much more and it's not even close.
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| 12/6/12 9:08 PM | |
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Nonlinear
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Member Since: 4/5/07 Posts: 1925 |
lol @ Hendricks being Flavor-of-the-Year. So what? He is the legit #1 contender. |
| 12/6/12 9:11 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4602 |
Nonlinear - Dude in reality you owned posters tonight left and right. It's over now as your points stand, have a great night bro. |
| 12/6/12 9:15 PM | |
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MMFT
Member Since: 11/24/12 Posts: 12 |
Lazer MMA -MMFT -Lazer MMA -MMFT -Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. You should explain your reasoning behind that scoring. Because you're sounding like Cecil peoples... or you know... somebody really bad at judging. Condit didn't show until the third. He didn't do anything in the first, so I don't understand how he takes that.. you didn't mention round two, but condit lost that too, but did start to land. Round three and four he outstruck Diaz and controlled the octogon instead of running away and missing. So it comes down to round five, no doubt. And Diaz controlled the grappling, made submission attempts, and just got the better of condit once they went down. Like I said, if you don't score round five for Diaz, you have to score it a draw because condit did not win it. And if five is a draw, and they each have two rounds, motha isn't a decisive victory at all,so as far as I'm concerned, You have no way to back up your three-one scorecard. |
| 12/6/12 9:16 PM | |
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MMFT
Member Since: 11/24/12 Posts: 12 |
Lazer MMA -MMFT -Lazer MMA -MMFT -Willy the Coyote - Nick has done more? He beat three top ten fighters in a row? Oh, right, he lost to the last ranked fighter he fought. You should explain your reasoning behind that scoring. Because you're sounding like Cecil peoples... or you know... somebody really bad at judging. Condit didn't show until the third. He didn't do anything in the first, so I don't understand how he takes that.. you didn't mention round two, but condit lost that too, but did start to land. Round three and four he outstruck Diaz and controlled the octogon instead of running away and missing. So it comes down to round five, no doubt. And Diaz controlled the grappling, made submission attempts, and just got the better of condit once they went down. Like I said, if you don't score round five for Diaz, you have to score it a draw because condit did not win it. And if five is a draw, and they each have two rounds, motha isn't a decisive victory at all,so as far as I'm concerned, You have no way to back up your three-one scorecard. |
| 12/6/12 9:18 PM | |
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Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 8045 |
The "a lot of people thought diaz won" argument is garbage. It's just small, vocal group of Diaz supporters who believe it. Look up the play by play from the event. I checked over ten sites. One guy thought Diaz won our of fifteen. It was a close fight, but that doesn't mean the winner wasn't obvious.
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| 12/6/12 9:18 PM | |
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FinestScotch
Member Since: 7/16/12 Posts: 1438 |
Well, can't blame a guy for trying I guess. |
| 12/6/12 9:19 PM | |
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Rear Naked Chode
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Member Since: 11/20/12 Posts: 170 |
yellow wrkahlc -Russianorkhan -Snake28 -It's pretty open to the public lolLilBrockonmychest -Ahhhhhhh what you did there Shields is obviously roided the fuck out. Obviously. SO SWOLL!!! |
| 12/6/12 9:33 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4604 |
"You should explain your reasoning behind that scoring. Because you're sounding like Cecil peoples... or you know... somebody really bad at judging. Condit didn't show until the third. He didn't do anything in the first, so I don't understand how he takes that.. you didn't mention round two, but condit lost that too, but did start to land. Round three and four he outstruck Diaz and controlled the octogon instead of running away and missing. So it comes down to round five, no doubt. And Diaz controlled the grappling, made submission attempts, and just got the better of condit once they went down. Like I said, if you don't score round five for Diaz, you have to score it a draw because condit did not win it. And if five is a draw, and they each have two rounds, motha isn't a decisive victory at all,so as far as I'm concerned, You have no way to back up your three-one scorecard." LMFAO at you get the compubox numbers for Rd.1, did not land till rd.3 my ass! WTF should I mention 2? I gave it to Diaz clear Rd 4 was Condit all the was and so was rd.5 minus one minute in a position that diaz did nothing with at all. You're completely delusional. Here is Junkie on this. I gave Nick one more round than them. Your boy is getting the worst beating of his life VS GSP. Nothing can change that fact either as he is outclassed completely and owned. Good night CARLOS CONDIT (@carloscondit) VS. NICK DIAZ (@nickdiaz209) Round 1 - Referee Steve Mazzagatti in the cage for the night's main event. Condit with an early leg kick, and he's circling right. Two more come. Diaz hasn't started hs assault just yet. More leg kicks from Condit. They clinch briefly, but Diaz pulls away. Diaz walks Condit to the cage, and he continue to answer with leg kicks. Diaz controlling the center and closes the distance, but Condit escapes to the center. Condit misses on a high kick. Diaz is stalking, but Condit wisely pulling away from the cage. Diaz starting to mix in a few kicks. Chants for both fighters alternating in the building. Diaz does sneak in a left. Condit really working the legs. Condit misses spinning backfist. Diaz stats his taunts and brings the talk. Condit sticking to his gameplan for now. More leg kicks. Another spinning strike misses. Diaz crisp to the body and head. Final minute. Condit circling and moving. Diaz does land again. Diaz finishing strong in the first. Condit flurries in the end, and Diaz talks more. Close opening round. Diaz was moving forward, but Condit was landing more frequently. MMAjunkie.com leans slightly toward Condit, 10-9. Round 2 - Diaz opens better in the second, and he nearly grabs a leg early. Condit flashes a front kick and misses a punch up top. Another spinning strike for Condit, and he returns to the low kick. Diaz taunts and open-hand slaps Condit engaging but trying to remain controlled. Diaz stalking well. Condit trying to stick and move. Diaz finding a home for the straight halfway in. Diaz moves in with a nice combination, but Condit in answering and also drives to the body. Diaz gets his best flurry this far before Condit pulls away from the cage. Condit slipping and moving, and Diaz continues to try and bait him in. Condit kicks and punches the body. Diaz briefly tries a clinch. Condit misses another spinning strike. Round ends, and Mazzagatti has to pull Diaz away and to his corner. Action still tight, but MMAjunkie.com gives it to Diaz, 10-9. Round 3 - Diaz immediately in the center. He fakes a takedow as he stalks. Condit kicks the legs and digs the body. Diaz chasing and kicks the body. Condit answers with two kicks to the body and lands a combination. Diaz chases in and lands to the body and head, but Condit again pulls away and refuses to stay in the target area. Condit chops the legs. Condit sicks and moves and Diaz is the one chasing. Condit's sticking to his gameplan. Diaz lands a glancing high kick. Two minutes remain. Condit just short on a front kick. Crowd wants Diaz to open up. Diaz charging, but Condit is moving well and countering. Diaz talking. He wants a brawl, but Condit keeping it technical. High kick for Condit, then to the legs and body. Diaz works in a crisp left hand. Jump knee from Condit in the final minute. Condit flashing more spinning attacks and kicks the leg. Condit slips on a kick but slides back and gets up without taking damage. Best round for Condit so far, and MMAjunkie.com gives it to him 10-9. Round 4 - Condit again works his kicks and ducks and slips the Diaz attack. Diaz now starting to mix in kicks, and he again taunts, hoping to slow Condit down. Diaz briefly grabs a clinch, but Condit pulls away. Condit will not stay on the cage. He lands a front kick to the face. Diaz having trouble pinning Condit to the cage. He does get inside and looks for a takedown. Condit defends, pulls free and fires off a few punches. Halfway in. Diaz doesn't look tired, but he's not getting off his typical work load. More kicks from Condit, and they have to be adding up. Condit kicks the leg and lands a left up top. More solid work from Condit, including a high kick. Condit kicks again. Diaz catches it but can't capitalize. Condit chops the leg again. Side kick from Condit, and he moves way. Diaz catches a kick but can't do anything with it. Diaz again controlling the center, but Condit moving perfectly away. Round ends, and Diaz refuses to let go of Condit's foot. Condit gaining momentum, and MMAjunkie.com gives him the round, 10-9. Could very well be even going into the final round, but MMAjunkie.com has Condit up. Round 5 - Condit opens with two straight punches over a low kick. Diaz still stalking, but he can't trap Condit. Diaz starts to kick to close the distance. Condit is fighting a technically sound fight and continues to escape and offer punches, kicks and knees. Diaz slips a spinning punch. Diaz short on two kicks. Condit with another low kick, and Diaz buckles. Punches and for Condit, and crowd erupts. Diaz moves into a clinch halfway in, but Condit simply pulls away. Diaz moves in but again meets stiff resistance. Technical masterpiece with time winding down. Missed punches, and Diaz slips the back. He drags Condit to the floor. Hooks are in. Condit battling the hands. Diaz gets a choke attempt in, but Condit pushes the arm away. Diaz secure with a body triangle. Final second. Diaz thinks armbar, but it's not there. Condit pulls free at the bell. Diaz embraces his foe at the end and then raises his hands. Another close round with the late back control, but MMAjunkie.com sees it for Condit, 10-9, giving him the fight 49-46. Still, rounds one, two and five were tight, and nothing will surprise. Carlos Condit def. Nick Diaz via unanimous decision (48-47, 49-46, 49-46) to become new interim welterweight champion. |
| 12/6/12 9:35 PM | |
yellow wrkahlc
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Member Since: 6/9/12 Posts: 4759 |
Lazer, either you calm down, or I'm gonna have to put you down, fren. |
| 12/6/12 9:38 PM | |
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Lazer MMA
Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 4605 |
LOL I'm calm completely I posted MMA junkie scoring to a delusional Diaz fan is all |
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