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Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post
12/6/12 9:40 PM
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Lazer MMA - "You should explain your reasoning behind that scoring. Because you're sounding like Cecil peoples... or you know... somebody really bad at judging. Condit didn't show until the third. He didn't do anything in the first, so I don't understand how he takes that.. you didn't mention round two, but condit lost that too, but did start to land. Round three and four he outstruck Diaz and controlled the octogon instead of running away and missing. So it comes down to round five, no doubt. And Diaz controlled the grappling, made submission attempts, and just got the better of condit once they went down. Like I said, if you don't score round five for Diaz, you have to score it a draw because condit did not win it. And if five is a draw, and they each have two rounds, motha isn't a decisive victory at all,so as far as I'm concerned, You have no way to back up your three-one scorecard."



LMFAO at you get the compubox numbers for Rd.1, did not land till rd.3 my ass!

WTF should I mention 2? I gave it to Diaz clear

Rd 4 was Condit all the was and so was rd.5 minus one minute in a position that diaz did nothing with at all.

You're completely delusional. Here is Junkie on this. I gave Nick one more round than them. Your boy is getting the worst beating of his life VS GSP. Nothing can change that fact either as he is outclassed completely and owned. Good night

CARLOS CONDIT (@carloscondit) VS. NICK DIAZ (@nickdiaz209)

Round 1 - Referee Steve Mazzagatti in the cage for the night's main event. Condit with an early leg kick, and he's circling right. Two more come. Diaz hasn't started hs assault just yet. More leg kicks from Condit. They clinch briefly, but Diaz pulls away. Diaz walks Condit to the cage, and he continue to answer with leg kicks. Diaz controlling the center and closes the distance, but Condit escapes to the center. Condit misses on a high kick. Diaz is stalking, but Condit wisely pulling away from the cage. Diaz starting to mix in a few kicks. Chants for both fighters alternating in the building. Diaz does sneak in a left. Condit really working the legs. Condit misses spinning backfist. Diaz stats his taunts and brings the talk. Condit sticking to his gameplan for now. More leg kicks. Another spinning strike misses. Diaz crisp to the body and head. Final minute. Condit circling and moving. Diaz does land again. Diaz finishing strong in the first. Condit flurries in the end, and Diaz talks more. Close opening round. Diaz was moving forward, but Condit was landing more frequently. MMAjunkie.com leans slightly toward Condit, 10-9.

Round 2 - Diaz opens better in the second, and he nearly grabs a leg early. Condit flashes a front kick and misses a punch up top. Another spinning strike for Condit, and he returns to the low kick. Diaz taunts and open-hand slaps Condit engaging but trying to remain controlled. Diaz stalking well. Condit trying to stick and move. Diaz finding a home for the straight halfway in. Diaz moves in with a nice combination, but Condit in answering and also drives to the body. Diaz gets his best flurry this far before Condit pulls away from the cage. Condit slipping and moving, and Diaz continues to try and bait him in. Condit kicks and punches the body. Diaz briefly tries a clinch. Condit misses another spinning strike. Round ends, and Mazzagatti has to pull Diaz away and to his corner. Action still tight, but MMAjunkie.com gives it to Diaz, 10-9.

Round 3 - Diaz immediately in the center. He fakes a takedow as he stalks. Condit kicks the legs and digs the body. Diaz chasing and kicks the body. Condit answers with two kicks to the body and lands a combination. Diaz chases in and lands to the body and head, but Condit again pulls away and refuses to stay in the target area. Condit chops the legs. Condit sicks and moves and Diaz is the one chasing. Condit's sticking to his gameplan. Diaz lands a glancing high kick. Two minutes remain. Condit just short on a front kick. Crowd wants Diaz to open up. Diaz charging, but Condit is moving well and countering. Diaz talking. He wants a brawl, but Condit keeping it technical. High kick for Condit, then to the legs and body. Diaz works in a crisp left hand. Jump knee from Condit in the final minute. Condit flashing more spinning attacks and kicks the leg. Condit slips on a kick but slides back and gets up without taking damage. Best round for Condit so far, and MMAjunkie.com gives it to him 10-9.

Round 4 - Condit again works his kicks and ducks and slips the Diaz attack. Diaz now starting to mix in kicks, and he again taunts, hoping to slow Condit down. Diaz briefly grabs a clinch, but Condit pulls away. Condit will not stay on the cage. He lands a front kick to the face. Diaz having trouble pinning Condit to the cage. He does get inside and looks for a takedown. Condit defends, pulls free and fires off a few punches. Halfway in. Diaz doesn't look tired, but he's not getting off his typical work load. More kicks from Condit, and they have to be adding up. Condit kicks the leg and lands a left up top. More solid work from Condit, including a high kick. Condit kicks again. Diaz catches it but can't capitalize. Condit chops the leg again. Side kick from Condit, and he moves way. Diaz catches a kick but can't do anything with it. Diaz again controlling the center, but Condit moving perfectly away. Round ends, and Diaz refuses to let go of Condit's foot. Condit gaining momentum, and MMAjunkie.com gives him the round, 10-9. Could very well be even going into the final round, but MMAjunkie.com has Condit up.

Round 5 - Condit opens with two straight punches over a low kick. Diaz still stalking, but he can't trap Condit. Diaz starts to kick to close the distance. Condit is fighting a technically sound fight and continues to escape and offer punches, kicks and knees. Diaz slips a spinning punch. Diaz short on two kicks. Condit with another low kick, and Diaz buckles. Punches and for Condit, and crowd erupts. Diaz moves into a clinch halfway in, but Condit simply pulls away. Diaz moves in but again meets stiff resistance. Technical masterpiece with time winding down. Missed punches, and Diaz slips the back. He drags Condit to the floor. Hooks are in. Condit battling the hands. Diaz gets a choke attempt in, but Condit pushes the arm away. Diaz secure with a body triangle. Final second. Diaz thinks armbar, but it's not there. Condit pulls free at the bell. Diaz embraces his foe at the end and then raises his hands. Another close round with the late back control, but MMAjunkie.com sees it for Condit, 10-9, giving him the fight 49-46. Still, rounds one, two and five were tight, and nothing will surprise. Carlos Condit def. Nick Diaz via unanimous decision (48-47, 49-46, 49-46) to become new interim welterweight champion.

Lol I'm delusional because I gave a perfect coherent response as to how I scored it. But you just copy and paste what somebody else thinks? Analyse it y imourself and form your own opinions, homie. I'll take your lack of an answer to my question and "good night" as an admission of defeat. Nice try at a debate though.
12/6/12 9:42 PM
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Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post
12/6/12 9:45 PM
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Read above MMA Junkie I explained it. It's always nice to have experts that say your correct too Vs a noob who says he knows more. You'll fit right in on the UG. Good night
12/6/12 9:48 PM
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Lazer, don't bother. This is what I posted in the thread about Kenny Florian's rankings:



"MMAJUNKIE scored the fight for Condit

Sherdog scored the fight for Condit (2 of 3)

5thround scored the fight for Condit

MMAWeekly scored the fight for Condit

Bloodyelbow scored the fight for Condit

MMAfrenzy scored the fight for Condit

MMARising scored the fight for Condit

MMAFighting scored the fight for Condit

That's the whole first page of a google search for play by play results of the event, plus two.

Oh, and most importantly, the judges scored the fight for Condit. It doesn't seem like it was all that controversial outside of Diaz lovers."
12/6/12 9:51 PM
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Lazer MMA - 
Read above MMA Junkie I explained it. It's always nice to have experts that say your correct too Vs a noob who says he knows more. You'll fit right in on the UG. Good night

You just can't intelligently defend you argument. Don't be sad, homie. One day you'll maybe be able to form your own thoughts instead of jocking junkie articles the "experts" wrote.
12/6/12 9:51 PM
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Willy the Coyote -  Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post


I'm thinking the Diaz fans are the most delusional. Now that's saying a lot because there are shogun fans out there too. I only hope they put $$$ up to keep my odds down as I get my shit in. Not JBJ VS Sonnen but I see as $$ in the bank no doubt.
12/6/12 9:52 PM
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Willy the Coyote -  Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post


I'm thinking the Diaz fans are the most delusional. Now that's saying a lot because there are shogun fans out there too. I only hope they put $$$ up to keep my odds down as I get my shit in. Not JBJ VS Sonnen but I see as $$ in the bank no doubt.

Woah Woah, buddy, I'm a Shogun fan. Watch your step, son!
12/6/12 9:54 PM
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Willy the Coyote - Lazer, don't bother. This is what I posted in the thread about Kenny Florian's rankings:



"MMAJUNKIE scored the fight for Condit

Sherdog scored the fight for Condit (2 of 3)

5thround scored the fight for Condit

MMAWeekly scored the fight for Condit

Bloodyelbow scored the fight for Condit

MMAfrenzy scored the fight for Condit

MMARising scored the fight for Condit

MMAFighting scored the fight for Condit

That's the whole first page of a google search for play by play results of the event, plus two.

Oh, and most importantly, the judges scored the fight for Condit. It doesn't seem like it was all that controversial outside of Diaz lovers."


In fairness most fans per polls too scored it for him. We're talking ignorant as hell huggers that can't accept facts here. Have a good one
12/6/12 10:00 PM
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Willy the Coyote -  Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post


I'm thinking the Diaz fans are the most delusional. Now that's saying a lot because there are shogun fans out there too. I only hope they put $$$ up to keep my odds down as I get my shit in. Not JBJ VS Sonnen but I see as $$ in the bank no doubt.

Woah Woah, buddy, I'm a Shogun fan. Watch your step, son!


Actually I think he has about a 50 50 chance in that fight VS Gus. I think he will use kicks and TD's. No offence but you know your boys are out there saying Shogun never lost a fight! LOl

+180 man it makes you think but with GSP over Diaz and JBJ over Sonnen and knowing Hendo X Machida is coming, well I think it's only about 50 50. How much cash do I want out there right now at what risk?

We'll both be rooting for Shogun bro!
12/6/12 10:05 PM
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BoilerBrawnByBeatdown - Shields would smother Hendro like he did to Hendo
Shields would be dropped and finished before he could take down Hendricks. Phone Post
12/6/12 10:05 PM
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Seriously can we STOP with the break down of a fight that was 10 fuckin months ago? It was a damn close fight. And Diaz fans will never accept the decision. There is no point trying to argue it with them. It is a tired and tedious debate that NEVER goes anywhere. Can we just look forward to the future? PLEASE! for the love of god move on. 

12/6/12 10:08 PM
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BoilerBrawnByBeatdown - Shields would smother Hendro like he did to Hendo
Shields would be dropped and finished before he could take down Hendricks. Phone Post


Yep unless he had a very bad back and had to lose 12 LBS in the last 24 life Hendo. Than he may have a chance
12/6/12 10:12 PM
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Seriously can we STOP with the break down of a fight that was 10 fuckin months ago? It was a damn close fight. And Diaz fans will never accept the decision. There is no point trying to argue it with them. It is a tired and tedious debate that NEVER goes anywhere. Can we just look forward to the future? PLEASE! for the love of god move on. 



I'll let others look forward to seeing JBJ clown Sonnen and GSP own Diaz.

At least I like the fox card!

WAR Penn, Shogun and Bendo!
12/6/12 10:27 PM
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Willy the Coyote -  Lazer, I posted the play by play scores from 10 sites on another thread. Only one person gave the fight to Diaz(sherdog). Some sites even had multiple people weighing in
The Diaz fans still wouldn't accept it. Phone Post


I'm thinking the Diaz fans are the most delusional. Now that's saying a lot because there are shogun fans out there too. I only hope they put $$$ up to keep my odds down as I get my shit in. Not JBJ VS Sonnen but I see as $$ in the bank no doubt.

Woah Woah, buddy, I'm a Shogun fan. Watch your step, son!


Actually I think he has about a 50 50 chance in that fight VS Gus. I think he will use kicks and TD's. No offence but you know your boys are out there saying Shogun never lost a fight! LOl

+180 man it makes you think but with GSP over Diaz and JBJ over Sonnen and knowing Hendo X Machida is coming, well I think it's only about 50 50. How much cash do I want out there right now at what risk?

We'll both be rooting for Shogun bro!

Haha nah, man, I know he has lost some fights. JBJ beat the bag out of him, and even though I thought it was a draw, I can't argue with Henderson getting the nod in their fight. Yea, if Shogun uses his TD and kicks I think he'll come away with the W on Saturday. The only thing is that he has not used his kicks effectively in quite a while now.

Shogun doesn't have to win every time for me to be a fan. It's his that brings me in. The guy has the biggest heart in MMA and always takes the fight to his opponent, win or lose. Any normal guy would have been done within a round against Jones or Henderson.
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Seriously can we STOP with the break down of a fight that was 10 fuckin months ago? It was a damn close fight. And Diaz fans will never accept the decision. There is no point trying to argue it with them. It is a tired and tedious debate that NEVER goes anywhere. Can we just look forward to the future? PLEASE! for the love of god move on. 



I'll let others look forward to seeing JBJ clown Sonnen and GSP own Diaz.

At least I like the fox card!

WAR Penn, Shogun and Bendo!

WAR PENN!

WAR SHOGUN!


War exciting main event!
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hmmmm

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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Lol @ 'Nicks done more than you." This is such blatant troll attempt to try and get a big fight. Phone Post
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BoilerBrawnByBeatdown - Shields would smother Hendro like he did to Hendo
Shields would be dropped and finished before he could take down Hendricks. Phone Post

yeah....no he wouldn't.
Lol yeah. I'm sure you're one of the people who also didn't think Hendricks would beat Fitch, Kos, or Kampmann. Shields has done nothing in the UFC impressive. Phone Post
12/6/12 11:30 PM
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CREamed_by_DongJ - Jake Shields gonna get himself concussed violently :(

STOP!
12/7/12 12:08 AM
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Shields is a great fighter but he hit his peak outside of the ufc. His crowning acheivments are his fights in strikeforce and getting the middleweight title.

Shields has not performed that well in the ufc but honestly after seeing what cung le did to rich franklin and what shields did to henderson i really feel like the strikeforce middleweight belt did not get the respect it deserved.

Shields deserves more respect than he gets for his accomplishments outside of the ufc. Phone Post
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FIGHT HISTORY

NICK DIAZ

26 - 8 - 0(Wins - Losses - Draws)LOSSVS

CARLOS CONDIT

FEB 4, 2012METHOD - REFEREEDecision (Unanimous) - Steve MazzagattiR5TIME5:00WINVS

B.J. PENN

OCT 29, 2011METHOD - REFEREEDecision (Unanimous) - Josh RosenthalR3TIME5:00WINVS

PAUL DALEY

APR 9, 2011METHOD - REFEREETKO (Punches) - John McCarthyR1TIME4:57WINVS

EVANGELISTA SANTOS

JAN 29, 2011METHOD - REFEREESubmission (Armbar) - Josh RosenthalR2TIME4:50WINVS

K.J. NOONS

OCT 9, 2010METHOD - REFEREEDecision (Unanimous) - Josh RosenthalR5TIME5:00WINVS

HAYATO SAKURAI

MAY 29, 2010METHOD - REFEREESubmission (Armbar) - Yuji ShimadaR1TIME3:54WINVS

MARIUS ZAROMSKIS

JAN 30, 2010METHOD - REFEREETKO (Punches) - Troy WaughR1TIME4:38WINVS

SCOTT SMITH

JUN 6, 2009METHOD - REFEREESubmission (Rear-Naked Choke) - John McCarthyR3TIME1:41WINVS

FRANK SHAMROCK

APR 11, 2009METHOD - REFEREETKO (Punches) - John McCarthyR2TIME3:57WINVS

THOMAS DENNY

JUL 26, 2008METHOD - REFEREETKO (Punches) - N/AR2TIME0:30 Phone Post
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WINVS

MUHSIN CORBBREY

JUN 14, 2008METHOD - REFEREETKO (Punches) - N/AR3TIME3:59WINVS

KATSUYA INOUE

MAY 11, 2008METHOD - REFEREETKO (Corner Stoppage) - N/AR1TIME6:45LOSSVS

K.J. NOONS

NOV 10, 2007METHOD - REFEREETKO (Doctor Stoppage) - Kerry HatleyR1TIME5:00 Phone Post
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I still don't see how Nick deserves the next title shot after he's proven he's completely unreliable. He screwed over the UFC and fans by missing events, failed a drug test, lost to Condit and shown no signs that's he grown up.

Plus, I wonder how happy Dana/UFC would be if Nick won the title? Are they really ready for this guy to represent the organization as their champion?

Hendricks on the other hand is the opposite: He fulfills his commitments, does the promos, makes weight, no failed drug tests and he's beat 3 top guys in his last 3 fights.



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