UnderGround Forum >> Okay, seriously? The Shogun-Rua fight judging

RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.

30-27 is fine though.

Rounds 2 and 3 clearly went to the Swede, round 1 was close and you could make a case for either fighter.

29-28 and 30-27 are both perfectly acceptable scores.

30-26 was downright insane.

Wu Massacre - which round do you think he won though? 1 or 2 ? i thought both of those were very close but gus took them. i could see an argument being made for either, and it is probably the fight ill be looking to rewatch first from this card


i thought siver - phan, crunk-martinez, shogun-gus, were the most deserving of fotn though

Wu Massacre - i agree, round 1 and 2 were neck and neck, but i think gus won both, although from what i remember round 1 shogun might have won. gus landed more shots in 1 but shogun landed harder and had the sub attempt. in 2 shogun landed more but gus landed some nice knees and takedowns.


well if you look at the rules its fairly clear how, they thought he overwhelmingly dominated, which is what happened, but its true the refs suck and should be replaced by people who trane

Wu Massacre - ya the judges i meant but you got it anyways, but uhhh... some of the tds were pretty nice and effective, some good sweeps, they were hard tds not soft ones, and there was some gnp... i thought they scored it well, but overall, judging sux

The Overseer -

RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.

30-27 is fine though.

Rounds 2 and 3 clearly went to the Swede, round 1 was close and you could make a case for either fighter.

29-28 and 30-27 are both perfectly acceptable scores.

I could accept 30-27 for the 3rd round just because of the takedowns and striking of Gus, but the other two rounds were 29-28. It makes me mad, seriously

The Overseer - 

Wu Massacre - ya the judges i meant but you got it anyways, but uhhh... some of the tds were pretty nice and effective, some good sweeps, they were hard tds not soft ones, and there was some gnp... i thought they scored it well, but overall, judging sux

The takedowns in the 3rd round by Gus were damn impressive, which is why I'd accept a 30-27 or 30-26, is because Shogun didn't do anything in the 3rd, but the 1st and 2nd were 29-28 rounds

Salt the Snail - I honestly thought Shogun won the first 2 rounds barely. Gustaffson had the most dominant round in round 3. Either way that fight could have gone either way and the judges fucked up.

lol. this guy trying really hard to troll and nobody is biting. or is just really REALLY dumb

The Overseer - 

RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.

30-27 is fine though.

Rounds 2 and 3 clearly went to the Swede, round 1 was close and you could make a case for either fighter.

29-28 and 30-27 are both perfectly acceptable scores.

I could accept 30-27 for the 3rd round just because of the takedowns and striking of Gus, but the other two rounds were 29-28. It makes me mad, seriously

RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.

30-27 is fine though.

Rounds 2 and 3 clearly went to the Swede, round 1 was close and you could make a case for either fighter.

29-28 and 30-27 are both perfectly acceptable scores.

Wu Massacre - they called a bunch of 10-8s during the fight

which, isnt far from what the rules actually call for

i could see how round 3 was a 10-8 round



"a round is to be scored as a 10-10 round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round; (I think this needs to be called a lot more)

a round is to be scored as a 10-9 round when a contestant wins by a close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes, grappling and other maneuvers;

a round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

a round is to be scored as a 10-7 round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round."

Take who the fighters are out of the equation.

For YEARS it has sucked that the judges NEVER used 10-8's for dominant rounds. I was happy to see Washington's judges actually using the scoring system the way it was intended. So many 10-8s, even if some are controvercial, is only going to make the scoring system better. 

Just like Penn-Fitch was rightfully a draw, you could argue round 3 of this fight a 10-8. The owrding does not call for a near finish, only domination of the round. 

mmavixen - 

30-26 was downright insane.

UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - 

Take who the fighters are out of the equation.

 

For YEARS it has sucked that the judges NEVER used 10-8's for dominant rounds. I was happy to see Washington's judges actually using the scoring system the way it was intended. So many 10-8s, even if some are controvercial, is only going to make the scoring system better. 

 

Just like Penn-Fitch was rightfully a draw, you could argue round 3 of this fight a 10-8. The owrding does not call for a near finish, only domination of the round.