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UnderGround Forum >> Okay, seriously? The Shogun-Rua fight judging
| 12/9/12 12:12 AM | |
The Overseer
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is fucking WHAT THE FUCK. 30-27 and 30-26?! Okay Rua may have lost, but in absolutely no way does his performance justify that kind of score. What in the serious actual fuck, the scoring should've been 29-28 all across the board. I'm pissed and gonna go smoke a bowl. Fuck. 
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| 12/9/12 12:15 AM | |
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RKing85
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30-26 was wrong. 30-27 is fine though. Rounds 2 and 3 clearly went to the Swede, round 1 was close and you could make a case for either fighter. 29-28 and 30-27 are both perfectly acceptable scores. |
| 12/9/12 12:16 AM | |
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YourMomMadeMeTap
Member Since: 6/6/12 Posts: 296 |
Shogun-Rua was a ridiculous judging111 |
| 12/9/12 12:16 AM | |
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The Overseer
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Member Since: 10/16/12 Posts: 1487 |
RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.I could accept 30-27 for the 3rd round just because of the takedowns and striking of Gus, but the other two rounds were 29-28. It makes me mad, seriously
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| 12/9/12 12:17 AM | |
mmavixen
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30-26 was downright insane. |
| 12/9/12 12:17 AM | |
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The Overseer
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Wu Massacre - which round do you think he won though? 1 or 2 ? i thought both of those were very close but gus took them. i could see an argument being made for either, and it is probably the fight ill be looking to rewatch first from this cardMAYBE round 1, and he kept pace and such in the 2nd. He didn't win rounds 2 and 3, but he didn't get insanely dominated like the score implies. It's bullshit.
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| 12/9/12 12:21 AM | |
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UGCTT_LastCall
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If my Swedish brethren won rounds 1 and 2 by a score of 10-9...there's no reason round 3 shouldn't have been 10-8. I have spoken. |
| 12/9/12 12:25 AM | |
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The Overseer
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Wu Massacre - i agree, round 1 and 2 were neck and neck, but i think gus won both, although from what i remember round 1 shogun might have won. gus landed more shots in 1 but shogun landed harder and had the sub attempt. in 2 shogun landed more but gus landed some nice knees and takedowns.I think the judges paid an insane amount of attention to the takedowns. So dumb.
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| 12/9/12 12:27 AM | |
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The Overseer
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Wu Massacre - ya the judges i meant but you got it anyways, but uhhh... some of the tds were pretty nice and effective, some good sweeps, they were hard tds not soft ones, and there was some gnp... i thought they scored it well, but overall, judging suxThe takedowns in the 3rd round by Gus were damn impressive, which is why I'd accept a 30-27 or 30-26, is because Shogun didn't do anything in the 3rd, but the 1st and 2nd were 29-28 rounds
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| 12/9/12 12:41 AM | |
ortman166
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The Overseer -Lol...?RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.I could accept 30-27 for the 3rd round just because of the takedowns and striking of Gus, but the other two rounds were 29-28. It makes me mad, seriously
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| 12/9/12 12:41 AM | |
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ortman166
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Trolling?^
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| 12/9/12 12:50 AM | |
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mghan44
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The Overseer -Wu Massacre - ya the judges i meant but you got it anyways, but uhhh... some of the tds were pretty nice and effective, some good sweeps, they were hard tds not soft ones, and there was some gnp... i thought they scored it well, but overall, judging suxThe takedowns in the 3rd round by Gus were damn impressive, which is why I'd accept a 30-27 or 30-26, is because Shogun didn't do anything in the 3rd, but the 1st and 2nd were 29-28 rounds I'm sensing troll in this post and your previous one. If not you need to go revise how scoring works round by round. Anyway, I feel opposite about the scoring. HOPEFULLY this represents a trend of judges scoring fights in a manner that will HUGELY diminish the prevalence of fucked decisions in the UFC. Don't see why so many people think a 10-8 round should be reserved for when a fighter is near finished. 10-9 goes to a VERY close round that could legitimately go either way. 10-8 goes to a round with a clear cut winner, regardless of near finishes or total dominance. Any round without argument as to the winner should be 10-8. 10-7 goes to a round which is now generally considered at 10-8 by most people. |
| 12/9/12 12:52 AM | |
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Salt the Snail
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Member Since: 11/25/10 Posts: 940 |
I honestly thought Shogun won the first 2 rounds barely. Gustaffson had the most dominant round in round 3. Either way that fight could have gone either way and the judges fucked up. |
| 12/9/12 11:17 AM | |
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ortman166
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Salt the Snail - I honestly thought Shogun won the first 2 rounds barely. Gustaffson had the most dominant round in round 3. Either way that fight could have gone either way and the judges fucked up.What? I wanted shogun but he lost, obviously.
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| 12/9/12 11:21 AM | |
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Eisenberg
Edited: 12/09/12 11:22 AM Member Since: 11/8/11 Posts: 715 |
Shogun won the 1st round...when he fell it really was a slip not a legit knockdown. He then reversed Gus, had a dangerous sub attempt and later landed the most significant strikes of the round (hard knee, right hand that dropped Gus). Gus won the other 2 rounds no question, even though it was mostly due to point takedowns making Shogun gas. 29-28 Gus. |
| 12/9/12 11:22 AM | |
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Pork Sword
Member Since: 9/7/11 Posts: 2989 |
The first fight I showed up for was scored 30-26, 30-25, 30-24 I'm pretty sure. Crazy loose judging all night as far as 10-8s go. |
| 12/9/12 11:26 AM | |
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ufc98newb
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Member Since: 9/26/10 Posts: 1745 |
lol. this guy trying really hard to troll and nobody is biting. or is just really REALLY dumb |
| 12/9/12 11:31 AM | |
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w9
Member Since: 12/20/10 Posts: 494 |
Rua won rounds 1 & 2. UFC judging is a joke. |
| 12/9/12 11:50 AM | |
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Rear Naked Chode
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Member Since: 11/20/12 Posts: 204 |
The Overseer -RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong.I could accept 30-27 for the 3rd round just because of the takedowns and striking of Gus, but the other two rounds were 29-28. It makes me mad, seriously I think you're confused. Unless you're adding all three judges score together in a round. I had shogun winning the first 10-9 but Gus won the 2nd and 3rd 10-9. 29-28 Gus. |
| 12/9/12 11:57 AM | |
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FreakDaddy
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RKing85 - 30-26 was wrong. This is how an objective person would see the fight.....I have no idea how anyone would have a 10-8 round in that fight....Round one was very close and could have went either way, so I could see how 30/27 and 29/28 could have been scored for Gus...... |
| 12/9/12 12:01 PM | |
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mikerobmma
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Wu Massacre - they called a bunch of 10-8s during the fightOverwhelming? Lol, wut.....
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| 12/9/12 12:03 PM | |
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mrgoodarmbar
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Member Since: 11/10/05 Posts: 3078 |
guys nearly get killed and they invariably score it 10-9... and now they decide to pull out the 8 for one of those rounds? |
| 12/9/12 12:05 PM | |
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA
Member Since: 5/13/11 Posts: 15394 |
Take who the fighters are out of the equation.
For YEARS it has sucked that the judges NEVER used 10-8's for dominant rounds. I was happy to see Washington's judges actually using the scoring system the way it was intended. So many 10-8s, even if some are controvercial, is only going to make the scoring system better.
Just like Penn-Fitch was rightfully a draw, you could argue round 3 of this fight a 10-8. The owrding does not call for a near finish, only domination of the round. |
| 12/9/12 12:20 PM | |
the geek
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mmavixen - Yup yup, Shogun lost but not 30-26. |
| 12/9/12 12:24 PM | |
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mghan44
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UGCTT_ Lay'n'PrayNINJA - I have been saying this for years as well. You are voted up for sensibility. |
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