UnderGround Forum >> Classy move by Nate

i too was surprised nate raised bens hand. i was glad to see it

People haven't been paying attention.  The Diaz brothers are actually very complimentary of anyone who engages them and not outpoints them.  Nick will say Jeremy Jackson kicked his ass in their first fight.  Nate didn't bag on Hermes Franca.  What was interesting in this fight was that Henderson did engage.  Took it right to Nate standing and on the ground.  Didn't get a takedown and then hang out in safe positions.  Didn't score points on the feet and then flee.  He beat Nate in every aspect.  Diaz respected it. 

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UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x - ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

THIS. Nate Diaz is the bitch he got treated like tonight.

voted down.  Not because of your opinion, but how you stated it.  The standard of the board is not to say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face.  This was the definition of fighter bashing.

Marzz - Do people really not understand the middle finger thing? What is the main strength of the Diaz bros? Boxing. They give the finger and posture during the fight in order to provoke their opponent. They're challenging their masculinity in front of millions. Because they know they aren't as athletic as some others, not as good at wrestling as others. So they hope that their antics will provoke their opponents to just stand in place and box with them, or maybe go for an aggressive takedown that leads to a sub. Bottom line, they hope the opponent gives up on technique and strategy and plays into their game. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Don't you think it's funny that they immediately show respect to their opponents afterwards and say nothing bad about them? Did they suddenly have a change of heart? No. Their opponents well know it's just strategy. If anything, the disrespect during the fight is pointless because they're TOO respectful afterwards. Opponents know it's an act. But there's also something else..

Fighters with a certain background often have a similar outlook on fights. If they grew up in poverty, struggling, and around violence, they don't look at fighting as if it's simply a contest. When you grew up around street or domestic violence, you equate fighting to possibly ruining someone's life. In that way, it's very hard for some guys to get up for a fight when they have nothing against their opponent. They have to find reasons to hate them. Because, otherwise, they just don't feel motivated to hurt someone who hasn't wronged them. So, for example, they may look at their opponent as someone who is trying to take away their paycheck and thus send their families back to poverty.

Ricardo Mayorga talked about this before. If he doesn't personally dislike his opponent, he has no motivation to punch him. People who take the actions of guys like that as legitimate disrespect are misguided.

The middle finger thing is amateur and unprofessional and has no place in the big league and network TV.

People making excuses for it sound like they are in middle school rationalizing drunk driving when they don't drive yet.

Marzz - Do people really not understand the middle finger thing? What is the main strength of the Diaz bros? Boxing. They give the finger and posture during the fight in order to provoke their opponent. They're challenging their masculinity in front of millions. Because they know they aren't as athletic as some others, not as good at wrestling as others. So they hope that their antics will provoke their opponents to just stand in place and box with them, or maybe go for an aggressive takedown that leads to a sub. Bottom line, they hope the opponent gives up on technique and strategy and plays into their game. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Don't you think it's funny that they immediately show respect to their opponents afterwards and say nothing bad about them? Did they suddenly have a change of heart? No. Their opponents well know it's just strategy. If anything, the disrespect during the fight is pointless because they're TOO respectful afterwards. Opponents know it's an act. But there's also something else..

Fighters with a certain background often have a similar outlook on fights. If they grew up in poverty, struggling, and around violence, they don't look at fighting as if it's simply a contest. When you grew up around street or domestic violence, you equate fighting to possibly ruining someone's life. In that way, it's very hard for some guys to get up for a fight when they have nothing against their opponent. They have to find reasons to hate them. Because, otherwise, they just don't feel motivated to hurt someone who hasn't wronged them. So, for example, they may look at their opponent as someone who is trying to take away their paycheck and thus send their families back to poverty.

Ricardo Mayorga talked about this before. If he doesn't personally dislike his opponent, he has no motivation to punch him. People who take the actions of guys like that as legitimate disrespect are misguided.

Old Feller -

People haven't been paying attention.  The Diaz brothers are actually very complimentary of anyone who engages them and not outpoints them.  Nick will say Jeremy Jackson kicked his ass in their first fight.  Nate didn't bag on Hermes Franca.  What was interesting in this fight was that Henderson did engage.  Took it right to Nate standing and on the ground.  Didn't get a takedown and then hang out in safe positions.  Didn't score points on the feet and then flee.  He beat Nate in every aspect.  Diaz respected it. 

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Old Feller -

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UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x - ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

THIS. Nate Diaz is the bitch he got treated like tonight.

voted down.  Not because of your opinion, but how you stated it.  The standard of the board is not to say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face.  This was the definition of fighter bashing.

I would have no problem saying that to his face. ZERO problem. I'm 53 and I have been studying martial arts since 1977. After watching Nate fight tonight I see no reason to fear the repercussions.

FreightTrain -

UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x -  ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

And talking sh*t before and during the fight.

sfish4862 - I think Nate acted with respect and class AFTER the final bell rung. LOL at the dipshits who cannot tell the difference between Nate and a completely disrespectful douche Rory.

FJJ828 - 

Marzz - Do people really not understand the middle finger thing? What is the main strength of the Diaz bros? Boxing. They give the finger and posture during the fight in order to provoke their opponent. They're challenging their masculinity in front of millions. Because they know they aren't as athletic as some others, not as good at wrestling as others. So they hope that their antics will provoke their opponents to just stand in place and box with them, or maybe go for an aggressive takedown that leads to a sub. Bottom line, they hope the opponent gives up on technique and strategy and plays into their game. It's really not that difficult to understand.

Don't you think it's funny that they immediately show respect to their opponents afterwards and say nothing bad about them? Did they suddenly have a change of heart? No. Their opponents well know it's just strategy. If anything, the disrespect during the fight is pointless because they're TOO respectful afterwards. Opponents know it's an act. But there's also something else..

Fighters with a certain background often have a similar outlook on fights. If they grew up in poverty, struggling, and around violence, they don't look at fighting as if it's simply a contest. When you grew up around street or domestic violence, you equate fighting to possibly ruining someone's life. In that way, it's very hard for some guys to get up for a fight when they have nothing against their opponent. They have to find reasons to hate them. Because, otherwise, they just don't feel motivated to hurt someone who hasn't wronged them. So, for example, they may look at their opponent as someone who is trying to take away their paycheck and thus send their families back to poverty.

Ricardo Mayorga talked about this before. If he doesn't personally dislike his opponent, he has no motivation to punch him. People who take the actions of guys like that as legitimate disrespect are misguided.

The middle finger thing is amateur and unprofessional and has no place in the big league and network TV.

People making excuses for it sound like they are in middle school rationalizing drunk driving when they don't drive yet.

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Old Feller -

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UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x - ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

THIS. Nate Diaz is the bitch he got treated like tonight.

voted down.  Not because of your opinion, but how you stated it.  The standard of the board is not to say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face.  This was the definition of fighter bashing.

I would have no problem saying that to his face. ZERO problem. I'm 53 and I have been studying martial arts since 1977. After watching Nate fight tonight I see no reason to fear the repercussions.

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Old Feller -

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UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x - ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

THIS. Nate Diaz is the bitch he got treated like tonight.

voted down.  Not because of your opinion, but how you stated it.  The standard of the board is not to say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face.  This was the definition of fighter bashing.

I would have no problem saying that to his face. ZERO problem. I'm 53 and I have been studying martial arts since 1977. After watching Nate fight tonight I see no reason to fear the repercussions.

you're so classy and respectful, a true Martial Artist.

and not at all delusional about the consequences of calling Nate Diaz a bitch to his face, or your fighting abilities.  

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Old Feller -

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UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x - ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

THIS. Nate Diaz is the bitch he got treated like tonight.

voted down.  Not because of your opinion, but how you stated it.  The standard of the board is not to say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face.  This was the definition of fighter bashing.

I would have no problem saying that to his face. ZERO problem. I'm 53 and I have been studying martial arts since 1977. After watching Nate fight tonight I see no reason to fear the repercussions.

At 53 you should have learned by now not to write checks that you can't cash.  You better hope that vintage '77 Dim Mak technique actually works.  Come on man, 53?  Nate's in his 20's and yeah he acks like a kid in his 20's sometime.  I can understand kids like Nate being disrespectful at times but after 35 years of old school martial arts, what's your excuse?

its like the time tank went up to vitor to congratulate him.

a guy whos never shown any respect was humbled and finally gave some

JakodaRay -

Stuckey - Sorry, but the Diaz brothers don't get a pass just because they are the Diaz brothers. If you are OK with any other fighter flipping the bird during a fight then fine, at least you are consistent.
But the idea that Nate and Nick are allowed to play by different rules just because they are from Stockton, and they smoke pot, and they make funny faces at their opponents is just stupid and hypocritical.

[Rory taunts BJ]
"OMG I hate this fucking kid I hope he dies!!!!1 How can he taunt a legend like that? Fucking dick!"

[Diaz taunts BJ]
"OMG Diaz is the best evar! DON'T BE SCARED HOMIE! 209 represent!"

TuLegit - I hope theres a rematch regardless of belts. Nate needs revenge on that.

RifatSahin -

UGCTT_FryedTakayamaOwnedMySN 3x -  ... Classy move? You mean after throwing the middle finger 4 times?

* giving the guy some napkins for his tears *

So kicking each others head of is no problem but putting on a finger is??