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UnderGround Forum >> Another Filipino vs Mexican Boxing Match Next Week
| 12/9/12 2:26 PM | |
forumnewb
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| 12/9/12 2:27 PM | |
Barry_BondsMVP
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Donaire via murder |
| 12/9/12 2:28 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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If JMM has lived in Manny's shadow, has Donaire as well? Is this perfect timing for him to take the mantle? Donair is ranked #5 P4P by the ring right now and has been for a while but casual fans probably have never heard of him. |
| 12/9/12 2:28 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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Barry_BondsMVP - How good is Arce? |
| 12/9/12 2:29 PM | |
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forumnewb
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Wasa-B - If JMM has lived in Manny's shadow, has Donaire as well? Is this perfect timing for him to take the mantle? Donair is ranked #5 P4P by the ring right now and has been for a while but casual fans probably have never heard of him. i know and its sad that donaire isn't getting as much attention. and he's actually better than manny. much more fundamentally sound. |
| 12/9/12 2:31 PM | |
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Barry_BondsMVP
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Wasa-B -Barry_BondsMVP - Arce has had too many wars, no defense but all heart...he'll get beat up. |
| 12/9/12 2:33 PM | |
Pancake Syrup
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Who vs Who? |
| 12/9/12 2:35 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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Barry_BondsMVP -Wasa-B -Barry_BondsMVP - Did you see Donaire's last fight aginst Nishioka? Was supposed to be a great win for Donaire? Japanese boxers are even more less known, no? |
| 12/9/12 2:36 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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forumnewb -Wasa-B - If JMM has lived in Manny's shadow, has Donaire as well? Is this perfect timing for him to take the mantle? Donair is ranked #5 P4P by the ring right now and has been for a while but casual fans probably have never heard of him. He'll get his, Im sure. Manny was the man for a reason, right? lets not get all UG revisional on him, not saying you are but you know its coming. |
| 12/9/12 2:39 PM | |
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Barry_BondsMVP
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it was a good win for Donaire, there's a few more guys in the Division he needs to fight though. |
| 12/9/12 2:41 PM | |
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chadk
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Arce is tough & relentless but he lacks the defense and punching power to beat Donaire. 
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| 12/9/12 2:43 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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Is Donaire too small to get mainstream limelight? Pac didnt get it until he started moving up, Oscar, etc. |
| 12/9/12 2:46 PM | |
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forumnewb
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Pancake Syrup - Who vs Who? jorge arce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOzagUBDdM nonito donaire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtWsZLHFliI |
| 12/9/12 3:43 PM | |
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chadk
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Wasa, its not about his size as much as marketing him and / or his opponents. He seems to be a good guy, good husband, etc but not overly charismatic. Conversely, most of the guys his size are foreigners who are unknown or hard to market here for various reasons.
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| 12/9/12 3:59 PM | |
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chadk
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Michael Carbajal was smaller than Nonito but was more charismatic. He was a star for awhile.
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| 12/9/12 4:16 PM | |
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WillyMaunawili
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I'm a Nonito fan, but he is in the twilight of his career, he won't be "handed the mantle" so to speak. I was really impressed with Farenas last night. It was very obvious that he was brought to get beat down and lose, but he definitely had other plans. He gave the "world class", next big thing, 50 cent managed fighter Gamboa all he could handle. Could've been a huge spoiler last night 
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| 12/9/12 4:18 PM | |
Chris27
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Nonito takes it. Next weekend is really stacked for fight fans, 2 UFC, Boxing, Bellator, LegacyFC. |
| 12/9/12 4:32 PM | |
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lueng jon
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Arce should have retired already,tough boxer, but been in a lot of wars. actually lost Michael Carbajal back in the day. |
| 12/9/12 4:33 PM | |
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OSUkinkledmyBEAVERhole
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TTT |
| 12/9/12 6:12 PM | |
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PrettyBoy
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Wasa-B - Is Donaire too small to get mainstream limelight? Pac didnt get it until he started moving up, Oscar, etc.This is mostly true. Oscar put Mayweather and Pacman over. Its really tough for the little guys to hit megastar status. Tapia and a few others broke out for a fight or two like in his showdown vs Danny Romero but its tough to hold the public attention at Bantamweight.
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| 12/9/12 6:16 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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Chris27 - Nonito takes it. Next weekend is really stacked for fight fans, 2 UFC, Boxing, Bellator, LegacyFC. TTT for just watching the fights and stfu about this whole mma vs boxing bs. Last night was an epic fight night period. |
| 12/9/12 6:17 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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WillyMaunawili - I'm a Nonito fan, but he is in the twilight of his career, he won't be "handed the mantle" so to speak. Hmm...so he is 30 but also 31 fights into his career. Guess he doesnt have that much time left. |
| 12/9/12 6:19 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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chadk - Wasa, its not about his size as much as marketing him and / or his opponents. He seems to be a good guy, good husband, etc but not overly charismatic. Conversely, most of the guys his size are foreigners who are unknown or hard to market here for various reasons. Wouldnt it be both? Has a 120/130 guy ever made the mainstream? And fighting unknown foreigners only adds to the problem i guess. Like the last guy he beat, Nishioka, was supposed to be a legit champ/top guy and a great win for Nonito's career but Nishioka is even less known...and i read that Nishioka is one of the few japanese boxers willing to travel for fights. |
| 12/9/12 6:50 PM | |
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chadk
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Like I said, Carbajal was a mainstream star. Kennedy McKinney, Junior Jones, Kevin Kelly and Mark Johnson flirted with mainstream acceptance and stardom. Jeff Chandler back a few years before them. Thing is there aren't a whole lot of Americans that size, so we tend to ignore the smaller divisions.
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BadRed
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WillyMaunawili - I'm a Nonito fan, but he is in the twilight of his career, he won't be "handed the mantle" so to speak. Nonito is just hitting his stride. |
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