UnderGround Forum >> How is rousey UFC champ without fighting in UFC?
| 12/9/12 6:26 PM | |
Dazednconfused
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What's it make a difference if she has to fight for it in the UFC? It's a whole new division and she's already beat 2 of the top women so whats the point of having another fight in the UFC? It's already clear she's the best women out there. Just like Jose Aldo. When it's a new division and you already have a champ, you may as well just make them the UFC champ.
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| 12/9/12 6:30 PM | |
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the person getting the better deal is ronda opponent. |
| 12/9/12 7:06 PM | |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax
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youarewhatiswrong -That doesn't matter he won the ufc belt that night. If he lost to jorg he would not have gotten it. Jorg would have. So he won it and defended it.UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax -HexRei -What ru talking about? Ufc 132 against faber was his first defense of the belt he recieved after beating jorgenson. Aldo is the only one not having to fight for his belt besides rousey. Theres a pic somewhere of dom holding both belts after that vicrory at wec 53.JShad -youarewhatiswrong - because, just like the WEC lighter weight champs, she came in without a UFC counterpart. So as the champion in UFC's sister league she is by default the champion of that weight class.
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| 12/9/12 7:10 PM | |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax
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"Jorgensen finally got his title shot and faced Dominick Cruz on December 16, 2010 at the promotion's final event, WEC 53.[12] The winner of the bout would become both the final WEC Bantamweight Champion and the first ever UFC Bantamweight Champion, marking the first time a UFC title would be awarded outside the UFC.[13] Jorgensen lost the fight via unanimous decision." Dominick WON the UFC belt, Jose Aldo did not, he defended it against Faber. |
| 12/9/12 7:12 PM | |
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Vril
Member Since: 12/22/11 Posts: 183 |
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| 12/9/12 7:18 PM | |
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youarewhatiswrong
Member Since: 3/23/12 Posts: 1404 |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax - "Jorgensen finally got his title shot and faced Dominick Cruz on December 16, 2010 at the promotion's final event, WEC 53.[12] The winner of the bout would become both the final WEC Bantamweight Champion and the first ever UFC Bantamweight Champion, marking the first time a UFC title would be awarded outside the UFC.[13] Jorgensen lost the fight via unanimous decision." You're making an argument semantics, citing one example that occurred by coincidence of events. Your argument is pointless and invalid. |
| 12/9/12 7:20 PM | |
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luctaro
Member Since: 12/31/10 Posts: 144 |
B_Goetz - UFC belts are promotional tools. They don't mean anything. This. It's easier to sell a Champ defending than to hype a couple of contenders fighting for a seat at the table. Plus, let's not kid ourselves here. Sadly, there is no 'Woman's division' in the UFC. At least not yet. Dana himself said 'This is the Ronda show' to Helwani. |
| 12/9/12 8:12 PM | |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax
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youarewhatiswrong -What ru talking about? The fighter that won that fight won the belt. Dominick was not handed the belt he had to fight for it at wec 32. Then defended it against faber. If jorg won wec 32 he would have been ufc champion and last wec champion.UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax - "Jorgensen finally got his title shot and faced Dominick Cruz on December 16, 2010 at the promotion's final event, WEC 53.[12] The winner of the bout would become both the final WEC Bantamweight Champion and the first ever UFC Bantamweight Champion, marking the first time a UFC title would be awarded outside the UFC.[13] Jorgensen lost the fight via unanimous decision."
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| 12/9/12 8:42 PM | |
Pure
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Mad Xyientist - Guard was changed, bro haha good to see you posting again mx |
| 12/9/12 8:44 PM | |
shaqitup
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Member Since: 6/20/11 Posts: 591 |
I really hope Dana's crush on rousey backfires |
| 12/9/12 8:46 PM | |
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youarewhatiswrong
Member Since: 3/23/12 Posts: 1406 |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax -youarewhatiswrong -What ru talking about? The fighter that won that fight won the belt. Dominick was not handed the belt he had to fight for it at wec 32. Then defended it against faber. If jorg won wec 32 he would have been ufc champion and last wec champion.UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax - "Jorgensen finally got his title shot and faced Dominick Cruz on December 16, 2010 at the promotion's final event, WEC 53.[12] The winner of the bout would become both the final WEC Bantamweight Champion and the first ever UFC Bantamweight Champion, marking the first time a UFC title would be awarded outside the UFC.[13] Jorgensen lost the fight via unanimous decision." Alright, this is pointless, i'm out. |
| 12/9/12 9:04 PM | |
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rescueink
Member Since: 10/13/10 Posts: 72 |
Not to be controversial just trying to figure out how in a combat sport like this u become a champion of an organization without fighting in it, as corrupt as boxing is they would make contenders fight first or lets even say collegiate wrestling,Olympic judo, hell when the Afc combined with nfl they had to play to become champion but I'm hoping it backfires and I'm not a fan of woman in UFC anyway
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| 12/9/12 9:12 PM | |
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Blazing Knees
Member Since: 6/29/09 Posts: 7247 |
You realize this belt is coming from a man who said he would NEVER endorse or put on a womens mma match right?
Worthless belt |
| 12/9/12 9:14 PM | |
yellow wrkahlc
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Member Since: 6/9/12 Posts: 4911 |
This thread has been too many fucking times. I give up posting the same response. |
| 12/9/12 9:36 PM | |
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Hessian
Member Since: 8/19/06 Posts: 7694 |
lookoutawhale - Zuffa would not risk the one trick pony losing. Albiet a very effective trick, one punch or two could derail the hype train. The UFC has not been about who is the best in the World for years. It is about who can give them ratings and PPV buys. |
| 12/9/12 9:37 PM | |
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TheFlood58
Member Since: 8/8/12 Posts: 140 |
youarewhatiswrong - because, just like the WEC lighter weight champs, she came in without a UFC counterpart. So as the champion in UFC's sister league she is by default the champion of that weight class.This
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| 12/9/12 9:38 PM | |
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ironbear
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1425 |
I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. |
| 12/9/12 9:38 PM | |
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ironbear
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1426 |
I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. |
| 12/9/12 9:38 PM | |
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ironbear
Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 1427 |
I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. |
| 12/9/12 9:43 PM | |
yellow wrkahlc
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Member Since: 6/9/12 Posts: 4917 |
ironbear - I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. Who's offering? |
| 12/9/12 9:43 PM | |
yellow wrkahlc
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ironbear - I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. Who's offering? |
| 12/9/12 9:43 PM | |
yellow wrkahlc
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ironbear - I wouldnt want any belt handed to me. Who's offering? |
| 12/9/12 10:26 PM | |
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Team Blackhouse Fan
Member Since: 10/11/11 Posts: 267 |
UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax -Cruz technically won the belt in his fight against Scott. But you're still wrong. Whoever won that fight was gifted the ufc belt by default. They did not fight for it in the ufc. The same could be said about Aldo's last fight in the WEC, they just didn't promote the fight that way because the decision to combine the promotions wasn't public yet. Pretty tough to argue that Cruz won the ufc belt when he didn't fight in the ufc for it.youarewhatiswrong -What ru talking about? The fighter that won that fight won the belt. Dominick was not handed the belt he had to fight for it at wec 32. Then defended it against faber. If jorg won wec 32 he would have been ufc champion and last wec champion.UGCTT_CreepysStacheWax - "Jorgensen finally got his title shot and faced Dominick Cruz on December 16, 2010 at the promotion's final event, WEC 53.[12] The winner of the bout would become both the final WEC Bantamweight Champion and the first ever UFC Bantamweight Champion, marking the first time a UFC title would be awarded outside the UFC.[13] Jorgensen lost the fight via unanimous decision."
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| 12/9/12 10:28 PM | |
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mijo
Member Since: 3/13/02 Posts: 4943 |
Rhonda is going to be a hit in the UFC, but she better stay away from Santos, if she wants to continue to be champion. She knows this. |
| 12/9/12 10:40 PM | |
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bekk46
Member Since: 3/26/11 Posts: 1086 |
So what happens if she loses to carmouche? She will be the former UFC champion without ever winning a UFC fight. Makes perfect sense.
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