UnderGround Forum >> As hard it is to believe, Cain can out strike JDS
| 12/23/12 6:02 PM | |
Olive Garden Table For One
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Member Since: 1/12/05 Posts: 39812 |
If the fans aren't booing, Cain can't win
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| 12/23/12 7:11 PM | |
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Stephen Holder
Member Since: 6/20/11 Posts: 1120 |
Even if Cain gets ko'd as quick as in their first fight or even quicker I won't feel dumb for sayin now, a week out from their second fight that irregardless of the first fight, Cain has a decent chance at winning this rematch. |
| 12/23/12 7:32 PM | |
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OSBtro11
Member Since: 12/30/11 Posts: 857 |
AresSmashedPrahjuhdee - finishing Bigdick, not impressedYou honestly believe those wins are that easy to discredit?
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| 12/23/12 7:34 PM | |
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duckingkimura
Member Since: 10/23/12 Posts: 115 |
DoomFarmer -Moranic imoSugar Dick -Posts like this are just moronic.
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| 12/23/12 11:45 PM | |
libertines24
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Member Since: 8/12/12 Posts: 30 |
I am not saying is a better striker but he can make this fight ugly |
| 12/24/12 12:25 AM | |
BlueNamer
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Member Since: 8/26/12 Posts: 179 |
something tells me that this fight is going to go much different than the first fight. i can't really say as to who will win or how, but something just seemed off with cain that night. i really like both guys, pretty excited to watch it play out. the one thing i do know - the ufc wants a mexican champion... |
| 12/24/12 2:11 AM | |
allforroy
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Member Since: 4/11/10 Posts: 809 |
Ryann Von Doom -Already been reminded of that. But saying he Bisping'd Lesnar, Rothwell, and Bigfoot is a joke. He threw Rothwell around like a doll and dropped him several times, ripped Lesnar apart and nearly killed Silva. Not to mention the frickin brilliant combo that put Nog down. It seems like JDS (who's probably my favorite fighter) has been elevated to unbeatable status and Cain demoted from the best in the world to a one-dimensional G and P fighter which is total BS. He showed some of the fire and aggression missing in the JDS fight against Silva and I believe we are in for a SICK fight.allforroy -Orly? He decisioned cup cheick. And he truly stopped a broken nog. Other fighters he got bisping stoppages.Olive Garden Table For One - Cain doesn't have the chin or power to win a striking battle, but he has the wrestling and cardio to win a decisionHe's ended every fight he's won in the UFC via TKO or KO. May not have the same one punch power as JDS but certainly has the track record as far stopping guys with strikes goes.
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| 12/24/12 2:55 AM | |
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BARBARlAN
Member Since: 5/14/09 Posts: 306 |
allforroy -.Ryann Von Doom -Already been reminded of that. But saying he Bisping'd Lesnar, Rothwell, and Bigfoot is a joke. He threw Rothwell around like a doll and dropped him several times, ripped Lesnar apart and nearly killed Silva. Not to mention the frickin brilliant combo that put Nog down. It seems like JDS (who's probably my favorite fighter) has been elevated to unbeatable status and Cain demoted from the best in the world to a one-dimensional G and P fighter which is total BS. He showed some of the fire and aggression missing in the JDS fight against Silva and I believe we are in for a SICK fight.allforroy -Orly? He decisioned cup cheick. And he truly stopped a broken nog. Other fighters he got bisping stoppages.Olive Garden Table For One - Cain doesn't have the chin or power to win a striking battle, but he has the wrestling and cardio to win a decisionHe's ended every fight he's won in the UFC via TKO or KO. May not have the same one punch power as JDS but certainly has the track record as far stopping guys with strikes goes.
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| 12/24/12 3:03 AM | |
caseharts
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Member Since: 7/18/11 Posts: 13477 |
cain can outstrike jds but my stock is in that he wont and he will press for the take down. my reasoning?
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| 12/24/12 3:12 AM | |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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Member Since: 1/29/11 Posts: 9722 |
If Cain wins it's because of his wrestling and then his cardio/pace.x
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| 12/24/12 3:41 AM | |
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KEVSTAR
Member Since: 8/23/12 Posts: 117 |
If Cain can take Brock down and beat him up, I think he can do the same to jds
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| 12/24/12 4:48 AM | |
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keylockarmbar
Member Since: 1/14/03 Posts: 5398 |
If Cains gonna win this fight its gotta be with foot work and wrestling mixed with strikes. A GSP strategy. He cant hold JDS down. No one has so it'd be foolish to bank on this. Cain is the more complete fighter but JDS has the reflexes/timing/speed/power in his punches that will overwhelm you. CV should shoot intelligently immediately. see what works and adjust. When he has to worry about the clinch/TD, then you can open up your stand up arsenal intelligently. Last fight CV just said fuck it and was throwing leg kicks and shit like he wasnt fighting the one guy who will find a way to knock you out on cue almost. FOOTWORK/CLINCH/DIRTYBOXING/opponent breaks free/TAKEDOWN/GnP. get him shook and pick him apart. but I dont know if CV is the man to do it. |
| 12/24/12 4:55 AM | |
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keylockarmbar
Member Since: 1/14/03 Posts: 5399 |
BlueNamer - something tells me that this fight is going to go much different than the first fight. i can't really say as to who will win or how, but something just seemed off with cain that night. i really like both guys, pretty excited to watch it play out. the one thing i do know - the ufc wants a mexican champion... I think CV beat his self by trying to prove he didnt go anywhere when he was sidelined from injury. he came out hyper and paid for it |
| 12/24/12 5:24 AM | |
AbbottMary
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Member Since: 11/3/12 Posts: 112 |
Cains striking isn't on the same level as JDS. He doesn't have head movement or cover himself when he throws. It's gonna be another KO for JDS unless Cain finds a way to take him down. |
| 12/24/12 5:43 AM | |
Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 8454 |
He doesn't have the defense or chin to hang with JDS. His only option is getting this fight to the ground or a flash KO. He can win, I just highly doubt that he will. JDS KO rd 1
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| 12/24/12 5:45 AM | |
bonerfart
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Member Since: 9/10/12 Posts: 287 |
Cain throws from his power shots from his shoulders. JDS throws correctly (for the most part) from his core and legs. Watch the videos. U'll see what im talking about.
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| 12/24/12 6:28 AM | |
in_different
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Member Since: 1/20/12 Posts: 1232 |
A lot of people are going to feel stupid after that fight. Just because they read 1 jack slack article, they think Cain is some scrub with no power and no chin. |
| 12/24/12 6:32 AM | |
Willy the Coyote
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Member Since: 10/9/05 Posts: 8459 |
I thought Cain had overrated stand up long before reading Jack's article. His chin isn't Arlovski bad, it just can't hold up to JDS' power.
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| 12/24/12 8:56 AM | |
The_Spider
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I'm not sure which Nog he KO'd. This was after he decisioned Couture so I'm thinking he shed his zombie skin already (from the 1st Mir fight). |
| 12/24/12 9:58 AM | |
Olive Garden Table For One
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Member Since: 1/12/05 Posts: 39815 |
I've been saying the same thing about Cain for years. Bobby Lupo don't need no Jack Slack to see a fucking mismatch and make money on it. UFC is pushing Cain for the Mexican/Chicano fans. He's not a top of the pile HW. He's got MW power and a MW chin, and he's fighting an aggressive, athletic beast who we all already know can knock him out Cain was a fatbody for the JDS fight. I doubled up after the weigh in, might do it again this time if he comes in soft and heavy again. |
| 12/24/12 10:07 AM | |
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TheAxeMurderer84
Member Since: 12/13/11 Posts: 669 |
JDS will continue his reign into 2013.
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| 12/24/12 10:16 AM | |
Olive Garden Table For One
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Member Since: 1/12/05 Posts: 39816 |
I hope something stupid doesn't happen in the Overeem-Bigfoot fight and we miss out on Overeem-2 Saints in 2013. That's gonna be wild |
| 12/24/12 2:11 PM | |
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Jetster
Member Since: 3/25/02 Posts: 7783 |
Cain is winning this, JDS is good but vastly overated, Cain was coming off a major injury and layoff, this affects everyone not name GSP! It even affected him but GSP is at another level that only A. Silva has so he was able to ovecome this. |
| 12/24/12 2:13 PM | |
Barry_BondsMVP
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Member Since: 1/13/10 Posts: 20156 |
JDS is vastly overrated, what does that make Cain? Let's not forget JDS had a knee issue too. |
| 12/24/12 2:25 PM | |
Zaph
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 816 |
Sugar Dick -Agreed.
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