OtherGround Forum >> Adam Lanza drove his mom's car to Sandy Hook?

Jesus Christ.  Some other hard-hitting "news" from that VeteransToday link regarding these dead children....

"Who really killed the Connecticut children?"
"Who Were the Other Shooters?"
"Sandy Hook: Huge Hoax and Anti-Gun 'Psy Op'"
"Israel activates American 5th column for Sandy Hook damage control"
"Israeli death squads involved in Sandy Hook bloodbath: Intelligence analyst"
"Sandy Hook massacre: Evidence of official foreknowledge?"
"Did Mossad death squads slaughter American children at Sandy Hook?"
and my personal favorite: "School killings, first shock, then blame and conspiracy"

So let's get this straight... there was advance knowledge of the attack and it was Israeli death squads that actually killed the children, but the whole thing was just a hoax.  Oh, and the mainstream media is busy blaming people and floating conspiracy theories.

These ridiculous news stories would be funny if there weren't families still mourning their dead children.  I understand that conspiracy theories can be fun to read but this crap is just gross, bros.

Stupidnewbie - There are always conflicting news reports surrounding large events or tragedies because the media is chock-full of morons. Seriously. I've been on the inside of several big investigations. The news always gets HUGE facts wrong. Either they don't pay attention during the briefings, they hear what they want, or they just plain make shit up. Oh, I'm sorry, they "speculate." I find it both hilarious and maddening when people make even more ridiculous assumptions based on the half-assed media reports that miss very pertinent details or events. See Fugazi's posts in the thread for examples.

This is the same exact answer you get when you suggest that the "government" was involved in a conspiracy like 9/11. Inevitably, someone says that the government is chock full of morons and thus couldn't possibly organize and keep secret an inside job of that caliber.

Bunk.

First of all, no rational believer in conspiracy (which historically is the norm, not the exception) thinks that everyone was in on it. There are secretive based departments(CIA,NSA,DHS) that pride themselves on their ability to keep secrets.There is also something that is called compartmentalization, where one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. Plus, there is the pedophile angle that seems to exist in every government in the world. Most of the men and women who have worked their way up the ladder to the highest positions of power have most likely been comprimised in some way that they'll keep their mouth shut for fear of being exposed.

As far as major media goes, there is almost no such thing as real journalism anymore. There was a time where most local papers had their own collection of investigative teams that went out and got THEIR OWN story. Now, most papers around the country get their news fed to them via some conglomerate, bought and paid for major news "feeder". Reuters and Associated Press come to mind. What we generally end up with is some regurgitated story that stemmed from one or two places.

Just like Waco, or Oklahoma bombing, or Columbine, or 9/11, etc etc there are glaring questions that never seem to get answered. But worse, they're never even asked by major media. If you can control the top intelligence orgs, the central bank, and most major media sources(not to mention the entertainment industry), you then have control to spin a story anyway you want. These people have almost perfected a form of propaganda that convinces people that "they" are too moronic and bumbling to pull off a big conspiracy.

What you need to know, is that these people have no regard for human life and are the personification of evil.

Fugazi -

Oddly enough, medical personnel were forced to set up their operation, not at the school where the dead and injured lay, but rather at the fire station several hundred feet away. This flies in the face of standard medical operating procedure where personnel are situated as close to the scene as possible. There is no doubt that the school had ample room to accommodate such personnel. Yet medical responders who rushed to Sandy Hook Elementary upon receiving word of the tragedy were denied entry to the school and forced to set up a primary and secondary triage off school grounds, waiting for the injured to be brought to them. “As other ambulances from neighboring communities rolled up, sirens blaring, the first responders slowly realized that their training would be tragically underutilized on this horrible day. ‘You may not be able to save everybody, but you damn well try,’” 44 year old emergency medical technician James Wolff told NBC News. “’And when (we) didn’t have the opportunity to put our skills into action, it’s difficult.’”

In light of this, who were the qualified medical practitioners pronounced the 20 children and 7 adults dead? Who decided that none could be revived? Why were the bodies left inside the school until at least 10pm?? Carver and his staff are apparently the only medical personnel to have attended to the victims—yet this was in the postmortem conducted several hours later. Such slipshod handling of the crime scene leaves the State of Connecticut open to a potential array of hefty civil claims by families of the slain. Carver says in his press conference that the families identified their children through photos, so it appears the parents themselves have not even seen the bodies of their children. Additionally, Sandy Hook Elementary is attended by 600 students, yet there is no photographic or video evidence of an evacuation on this scale. Instead, we have limited video and photographic imagery, showing only an evacuation of perhaps several dozen students.

Two other questions: Why is there is no video footage available of Adam Lanza, or the shooters, entering the school?

Tre Mendez, the call to station them across the street and subsequent refusal to let them in was after the the body of Adam was discovered. The all clear was essentially given. Then a simple decree was given that not a single child or adult was supposedly showing any pulse, apparently. Seems lieke a very well done execution to have an almost 100% kill rate, so much so that it appears that each victim was not just shot during a random spree, but instead each was shot enough to insure death.

Sounds like the work of an "expert" , yet from a kid with no official record of ever having shot a gun(but for unconfirmed reports that he'd been to a shooting range a few times,although not being on the ranges registry)..

Fugazi - 

Tre Mendez, the call to station them across the street and subsequent refusal to let them in was after the the body of Adam was discovered. The all clear was essentially given. Then a simple decree was given that not a single child or adult was supposedly showing any pulse, apparently. Seems lieke a very well done execution to have an almost 100% kill rate, so much so that it appears that each victim was not just shot during a random spree, but instead each was shot enough to insure death.

Sounds like the work of an "expert" , yet from a kid with no official record of ever having shot a gun(but for unconfirmed reports that he'd been to a shooting range a few times,although not being on the ranges registry)..

In a high profile mass casualty situation such as this there is always a cluster fuck of who is in charge. I'm certain interdepartmental communications was poor and there was a lot of confusion amongst the chaos. It is just the reality of these things, you can run mock scenarios all you want but when shit hits the fan it will never go as smoothly as you or anybody would like. I don't know who was pulling out the victims to the EMS crews standing by outside the "hot zone" but there is always that possibility that there were viable victims that expired on the scene because further medical assistance was withheld. I understand your question better now, and I too now wonder who was making the triage decisions on the scene if the trained medical personnel were outside. Was the Emergency Services Unit or SWAT team the ones calling the shots at the scene? They are usually cross trained to be first responders, EMT-basic or even paramedics.

A state Superior Court judge said Thursday that search warrant affidavits for the cars and home of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza and his mother would stay sealed for another 90 days.

The judge's order also covers the two other search warrants, for the 2010 Honda Civic Adam Lanza drove to the school and for Nancy Lanza's 2009 silver BMW, which was parked in the garage attached to the home.

"The court finds that due to the nature and circumstances of this case and the ongoing investigation, the state's interest in continuing nondisclosure substantially outweighs any right to public disclosure at this time," Blawie wrote.


[link to www.ctpost.com]

Well, here's more verification tht the Honda Civic was the car. Still no mention of why it was registered to a criminal named Christopher Rodia.

And no where in that insulting post above do you answer the premise of the thread. Why was Adam supposedly driving a Honda Civic registered to a repeat felon?

Answer the question, Clare.

Why don't you wait for the story to come out in its entirety before formulating it was a conspiracy which will dampen your ability to actually examine the case later?

your are already on the CT train, and for many there is no getting off.

maybe he stole the fucking car. Maybe he was fucking the girl. 

Notice, even in that excerpt from that news article above about the 90 day seal of documents, that they refer to the Honda Civic as the car Adam drove and THEN mention the other car as being owned by his mom?

Fugazi - 

Notice, even in that excerpt from that news article above about the 90 day seal of documents, that they refer to the Honda Civic as the car Adam drove and THEN mention the other car as being owned by his mom?

 

When are you going to learn people aren't infallible like your god? I mean, really learn it?

Stupidnewbie - Fugazi's posts...so mind-numbingly stupid.... He has no understanding of standard triage procedures, active shooter response, or criminal investigations. He posts idiotic assumptions without anything but websites published by other speculative morons. Please disregard this entire thread. Now he'll accuse me of being a dis-information agent or something. People are so godamned dumb!

Res ispa loquitur - 

Why don't you wait for the story to come out in its entirety before formulating it was a conspiracy which will dampen your ability to actually examine the case later?

your are already on the CT train, and for many there is no getting off.

maybe he stole the fucking car. Maybe he was fucking the girl. 

 

So why are you more angry at me for asking a fucking question that any third rate reporter SHOULD HAVE ALREADY ASKED?

Don't you see how you might be a bit manipulated to react that way?

Maybe he DID steal the car. The point is that the obvious discrepancy is not even being mentioned by MSM. That alone is evidence that MSM will only report what they want you to know.

Now we get this 90 day sealing of documents, which will only allow americans short attention spans to move on while gun rights are now in danger of being infringed upon.

But go ahead and attack me for wanting to know what the hell the truth is before we make this event the impetus for disarming innocent americans.

akbar87, this is the standard tactic by a few interesting characters here. They will accuse and name call but they won't even admit that it's a valid question that shouldn't require regular blokes on the internet to ask.

Or you get someone like Obamacare to come on here and declare that the pic i posted wasn't the car in question without providing ANY evidence, but we're supposed to take his word for it. Kind of hypocritical.

Res ispa loquitur - 

Fugazi - 

Notice, even in that excerpt from that news article above about the 90 day seal of documents, that they refer to the Honda Civic as the car Adam drove and THEN mention the other car as being owned by his mom?

 

When are you going to learn people aren't infallible like your god? I mean, really learn it?

Ah, so you don't like me because i believe in God, therefor any question i have about blatant irregularities in this story aren't valid. Got it.

If patience is all we need before we eventually get a thorough report of exactly what happened, than why has it been over 12 years and still no answers to the over hundred witnesses at Columbine that saw 3 or 4 shooters and a man outside lobbing a bomb on the roof?

Shame on anyone who still thinks that there aren't nefarious individuals operating at high levels of power who have no problem extinguishing lives for their agenda. If you think that's a conspiracy, you're asleep....period.

Keep wingin' insults, but don't pretend the Honda Civic discrepancy doesn't exist.

LETMEBANGBRO - Fugazi: you need to get back on your meds, quickly.

Yet another brilliant individual who lashes out at someone who dares ask a relevant question.

This is the tactic, folks. This is why those of you who know you can't trust what you're told by MSM often won't speak up.

Meanwhile, the irony of this dumbass post from LETMEBANGBRO is that far too many americans are heavily medicated and make the perfect zombie that won't ask questions of authority.

Honda Civic....

Honda Civic....

Try explaining this issue and THEN insult me if you like.

Fugazi - 

Res ispa loquitur - 

Why don't you wait for the story to come out in its entirety before formulating it was a conspiracy which will dampen your ability to actually examine the case later?

your are already on the CT train, and for many there is no getting off.

maybe he stole the fucking car. Maybe he was fucking the girl. 

 

So why are you more angry at me for asking a fucking question that any third rate reporter SHOULD HAVE ALREADY ASKED?

Don't you see how you might be a bit manipulated to react that way?

Maybe he DID steal the car. The point is that the obvious discrepancy is not even being mentioned by MSM. That alone is evidence that MSM will only report what they want you to know.

Now we get this 90 day sealing of documents, which will only allow americans short attention spans to move on while gun rights are now in danger of being infringed upon.

But go ahead and attack me for wanting to know what the hell the truth is before we make this event the impetus for disarming innocent americans.

They were asked. And ignored. This can be assumed to mean many things. You go the CT route. I go the my brother and a few other close members of my family are in law enforcement route , and this is standard in the midst of an active investigation.

I'm not being manipulated by shit. I unlike you, approach conteversial topics or events I don't know the details to with the open mind that requires  evidence and as complete a picture as possible to pass judgement. 

But, by all means, continue to post, just don't confuse the sources you are using as groundbreaking or at the precipice of blowing open a conspiracy, cause they aren't.

I mean, only go up to ackbar87s post about the discrepancy between what guns where used vs. what was reported. He is suggesting two things. 1) the media is on a conspiracy and is  intelligently misinforming people that won't look into it. 2) the media reports are hardly ever without error, but when they are, it's conspiracy.  Or even that the media is always in in it. .a branch of the illuminati or NWO. .

The issue of the media is one of people racing to release information, regardless of validity at this point. To continually point  at their errors and ask why these errors happen is pretty much insane. It's obvious. There is no nefarious plot.