OtherGround Forum >> Want to get a pilot's license....TMA

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BrentP -  God damn....shut the fuck up already

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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Shogun of Harlem -

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LOL @ the irony of Shogun of Harlem telling somebody not to get upset when people make jokes about them.

SOH threw a temper tantrum when i made a joke about pilots not listening to air traffic controllers. Then he got his feelings hurt even more when i said i thought landing a plane on an aircraft carrier at night was easy (as if being an air traffic controller and a 10 year vet of the military would actually let me believe that)

 

LULZ

That's because smart people generally get upset when retards try to correct them - just like ATC.

Welcome back, crybaby. Now make go-around

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

ArtMinaj -

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

 

Naderhood - 

ArtMinaj -

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

 

Quit begging for attention

lol I JUST made a thread begging for attention right before reading this.

Team Piss 2013

#teampiss

yolo

caseharts - Is there any good advice in here?

ArtMinaj -

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

 

caseharts -  Is there any good advice in here?

Someone posted a copy/paste from Google, but that was about it. No inside advice from anyone at all.

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ArtMinaj -

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

 

Quit begging for attention

When is your next fight? I want to sponsor your shorts

TexDeuce - This is an excellent post from Claw Hand from another thread:

"Well, speaking from a private pilot perspective, there's really only two things that you need to get a pilot certificate: 1. Time 2. Money

The first step is to go out to your local flight school and meet and instructor and take a demo flight. Most people have never flown in a small airplane and the experience can be a little unsettling - this is normal. Make sure you feel comfortable with your flight instructor, this is key; you are trusting this person WITH YOUR LIFE. I can't emphasize this enough. Find someone you are comfortable with.

The second step is probably the most critical as far a completing the training is concerned: making and accepting the decision to see this through to completion. Over 60% of student pilots never finish the certificate and it has to do with either time or money. If you waffle with this decision, you'll walk away with no license and thousands in the hole. Understand that a certificate will end up costing you somewhere between $8,500 to $10,000 depending on your location. If you can't accept this, don't even start. It took me roughly five months (about ~65 hours) and $8,500 dollars to earn my certificate, but I had access to an old T-41 that I rented for $75 an hour.

At lesson 3 or 4 (stalls), you will have a gut check. I found stalls to be a confidence builder because it showed me that airplanes don't just fall out of the sky. Some people have the opposite reaction. Up to this point, you can walk away with minimal losses. If you cross this point and are still comfortable, you should be good to go. Don't stop training.

You should schedule at least 3 flights per week or two good sessions in the weekends. If you fly less than this, you will spend the first 30 minutes of each new lesson reviewing material from the previous lesson. You don't want to be getting a lesson on tuning and tracking a VOR in flight at $120 an hour in the air when you could have had that same lesson out of the book for nothing on the ground. PREPARE, PREPARE, PREPARE. If you don't, this will cost you time, and time, especially in an airplane, costs money. You will inevitably have weather cancellations and schedule conflicts, that's why you want to schedule 3 flights per week. Weather will cancel a good number of lessons, expect that.

Again, the money thing: understand the commitment. A crusty pilot that worked at the FBO where I got my license gave me some of the best advice ever: once you are committed, do not stop. Borrow money if you have to, but finish the damn license. Remember that a lapse in training, however short, affects your proficiency and time is money. There was one person at our club that had over 150 hours and still didn't have a license because they'd stop - save - stop - save and they weren't getting anywhere. One thing you have to understand is that the curriculum for flight schools and flight training is strictly controlled. Certain events have to happen in a time line and you receive periodic endorsements (solo, solo cross-country, long-cross country, check ride, etc.) you don't want to mess with that time line by taking time off. JUST KEEP GOING. You don't want to be that guy that gets close to the check ride and stops for some reason. Most people never recover from a month long break and they end up flushing $6,000 in the toilet. DON'T BE THAT GUY.

My last piece of advice is to do the ground school ahead of the flight training, this way you will be thoroughly familiar with the instruments and systems. Like I said before, you don't want to be wasting money learning something in the air that you could have learned on the ground.

I know that my post may sound discouraging, but it's not. Simply put, too many people fail because they don't really understand the commitment. I wanted to show what will be involved, that way you can approach the decision intelligently and not lose your ass.

I'm currently getting my instrument rating, because frankly as a VFR pilot your choices are very limited because you are at the mercy of the clouds. If you don't have an instrument rating, you can't punch through a cloud layer and flying basically becomes a recreational activity rather than a reliable means of transportation. Also, the instrument rating doesn't mean you can fly through storms, it means that you can deal with clouds and reduced visibility, especially in small airplanes.

I fly at least 1.5hrs a month as a VFR pilot. Obviously I'm flying a lot more now because I'm undergoing training. Flying is a perishable skill, so you want to fly at least once a month. If not, you'll not only lose currency, you'll lose confidence as well. With a PPC, you basically have a "license to learn" until you get a little seasoned and have about 200 hours under your belt.

As far as aircraft ownership is concerned, the break even point between owning and renting is about 200 hours per year. If you fly less than this, RENT. Remember, you can't do any significant maintenance on your own. Legally, all inspections, repairs and annual maintenance has to be performed by an Airframe and Powerplant mechanic. If you go into a partnership, make sure you have an odd number of partners and make sure the other owners are on the same page, financially and obviously get a legal agreement. You want an odd number so you can reach decisions by majority and get things done for maintenance, parts and things like that.

I know this is a lot of stuff, but flying is expensive and you don't want to mess around. Feel free to ask any questions."

Excellent post.

I had a chance to get my pilots license when I was in High School, but I screwed around and missed my chance.  My school had the only program in the whole country where they taught us to fly airplanes, which was strange because I went to a ghetto school that was known more for riots.  I did get to fly a Cessna 5 times though, good times, and yes stalls will give you a gut check lol.

I had one cool flight instructor that would take us to this nice area, where he knew that this hot girl would sun tan in the nude haha.  

I would agree that you need to make sure you know what you are getting into, go all the way or don't go at all.

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ArtMinaj -

Case of hearts,

Check the post previous to yours sir.  Team Piss 2013.  That is all you need to take from this thread.

 

Quit begging for attention

When is your next fight? I want to sponsor your shorts

You will have to out bid Kotex!

Wrong. Thats what you get for not paying attention to the UG news blog. Kotex was outbid by Summers Eve.

Friggin amateur

ArtMinaj - People are now giving advice and he's gone. Probably inquiring about learning to paddle boat.