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UnderGround Forum >> White: Bad scoring kills my business
| 12/30/12 5:26 PM | |
Underground Blog
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| 12/30/12 5:31 PM | |
ChaosOverkill
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The fact that comission selection members (Whoever they are) get to keep putting incompetent idiots as judges screams intent to ruin the sport to me or a corruption so bad that it makes organized crime pale in comparison. |
| 12/30/12 5:34 PM | |
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ChaosOverkill
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Like I've pointed out before, before the last Pacquaio fight Keith Kizer held a special seminar on Judging boxing so that it wouldn't ruin the fight. (yes I get that boxing has more money involved but still)
WHERE IS THE SEMINAR FOR MMA? YOU INCOMPETENT ASSHOLE! |
| 12/30/12 5:44 PM | |
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Dr Doom
Member Since: 2/7/04 Posts: 819 |
Adalaide Byrd has been trolling for years. It is hilarious she still has a job. |
| 12/30/12 5:47 PM | |
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TexDeuce
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Member Since: 7/15/04 Posts: 18835 |
How in the holy fuck is Adelaide Bird a judge? I've wondered this for years. 
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| 12/30/12 5:47 PM | |
Brian J DSouza
Member Since: 1/3/12 Posts: 298 |
It's nice to see the judging come under more scrutiny, especially by TPTB.
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| 12/30/12 6:02 PM | |
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hogh20
Member Since: 10/2/10 Posts: 105 |
I don't know much if any at all, about the need for sanctioning bodies. But is there a reason that the UFC can't have somebody other than the NSAC sanction their events? Why do they even need sanctioning bodies in the first place? |
| 12/30/12 6:05 PM | |
Authority Figure
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hogh20 - I don't know much if any at all, about the need for sanctioning bodies. But is there a reason that the UFC can't have somebody other than the NSAC sanction their events? Why do they even need sanctioning bodies in the first place? Those santioning bodies are a large part of the reason MMA is allowed in most states. |
| 12/30/12 6:05 PM | |
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Authority Figure
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Scoring seems to be getting worse. It appears some judges either don't understand or are purposefully scoring badly to "stick it" to the UFC and other promoters. |
| 12/30/12 6:06 PM | |
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Tractor
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Member Since: 11/21/04 Posts: 3287 |
I agree with uncle dana
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| 12/30/12 6:10 PM | |
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ChaosOverkill
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The UFC should threaten to pull all fights from a state if they won't blacklist certain judges like Byrd |
| 12/30/12 6:14 PM | |
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yellow's Overseer
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Member Since: 10/16/12 Posts: 2159 |
NSAC needs to let retired or current MMA fighters judge MMA fights. 
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| 12/30/12 6:18 PM | |
6ULDV8
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13695 |
They make their horrible decisions and then disappear into the abyss and no one says anything.
Kudos for this making the UG blog and naming names. Horrible judges need to be named and held responsible. We can't just say 'the judging' and leave it at that.
Thank goodness Cecil, who was judging the same fight, didn't pull a smoothie or Varner would have been robbed.
That was either a payoff or a retard. Either way Byrd proved beyond the shadow of a doubt she has no business judging MMA fights. I'd love to hear how she defends that judgment. |
| 12/30/12 6:19 PM | |
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jv071481
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Sometimes I wonder if they just get confused which fighter is which. Maybe it was supposed to be the other way.
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| 12/30/12 6:20 PM | |
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hogh20
Member Since: 10/2/10 Posts: 106 |
Authority Figure -hogh20 - I don't know much if any at all, about the need for sanctioning bodies. But is there a reason that the UFC can't have somebody other than the NSAC sanction their events? Why do they even need sanctioning bodies in the first place? Thanks for the response, but you didn't answer anything I asked. I know there are sanctioning bodies needed. I know they were necessary, especially in the beginning years, to get MMA out of the "Dark Ages" and into the mainstream. But are they still necessary? Why? |
| 12/30/12 6:20 PM | |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive
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yellow's Overseer - NSAC needs to let retired or current MMA fighters judge MMA fights.I don't think that's necessarily the best way to go, former athletes have their own biases as well. They just need to make these judges go through an intense scoring "school" in order to make sure they understand everything they are seeing as well as defining the scoring material as best as possible. Doesn't really seen that hard to do to me either? And thanks for the blue name! You're the man
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| 12/30/12 6:25 PM | |
Letibleu
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Member Since: 1/6/10 Posts: 531 |
i googled her. she fucks up boxing scores too. http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/russ_anber/?id=362037 |
| 12/30/12 6:39 PM | |
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Il Duce
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Member Since: 2/1/12 Posts: 405 |
30-27 Melvin Guillard.
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| 12/30/12 6:42 PM | |
NINERS76
Member Since: 10/29/11 Posts: 77 |
jv071481 - Sometimes I wonder if they just get confused which fighter is which. Maybe it was supposed to be the other way. i dont think that was the case with melvin vs jamie. cecil peoples rubbed his luck on her before the fight |
| 12/30/12 6:46 PM | |
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stonepony
Member Since: 9/1/11 Posts: 3911 |
ChaosOverkill - No... It's just a bureaucratic government body. Therefor they aren't concerned with things like credibility or accountability or quality. They're dysfunctional for the same reason the DMV and our public schools are dysfunctional. They don't have to perform to get paid. |
| 12/30/12 6:47 PM | |
Barbalos
Member Since: 8/5/12 Posts: 40 |
That was terrible |
| 12/30/12 6:49 PM | |
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Nocturnal
Member Since: 7/28/03 Posts: 2882 |
This isn't the first time Byrd has fucked up a score like this.
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| 12/30/12 6:50 PM | |
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Nocturnal
Member Since: 7/28/03 Posts: 2883 |
They should at least sit her down and ask her to explain why she scored it that way.
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| 12/30/12 6:56 PM | |
Blazing Knees
Member Since: 6/29/09 Posts: 7321 |
OnlyTheStrongSurvive -yellow's Overseer - NSAC needs to let retired or current MMA fighters judge MMA fights.I don't think that's necessarily the best way to go, former athletes have their own biases as well. They just need to make these judges go through an intense scoring "school" in order to make sure they understand everything they are seeing as well as defining the scoring material as best as possible. Doesn't really seen that hard to do to me either? Yeah as far as former fighters judging-no. I'm biased just based on who I want to win, I would really be biased if I was judging a guy I lost to! |
| 12/30/12 7:10 PM | |
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stonepony
Member Since: 9/1/11 Posts: 3912 |
IMO the vast majority of fighters are honorable and could be trusted to judge fights. They could be recused when it came to judging a fight where bias was an issue (they would ask to be replaced). Think about it... When was the last time you saw an intentional foul? They're very rare. In 99% of the cases, the fighter immediately admits to a stray kick landing low, whether the ref saw it or not. Often, if the ref didn't see it, you'll see the ref look to the fighter who threw the low-blow. Why? Because they admit to it. How many times have you seen a fighter complain and deny it? How many times have you seen a fighter argue or even make a face when the fight gets stopped for a low blow? The few times somebody has protested, it's probably because they believed the strike was clean. Not because they were trying to get away with it. |
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