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Have you seen the movie, pharochuck?
12/30/12 8:56 PM
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JuicyThurmite - If you think he dealt with slavery in a comedic and lighthearted way you obviously have not seen the film and thus your opinion does not matter Phone Post
It's a movie about slavery and there is comedic bits in it. Spike's issue and many others is they feel the subject matter should be treated with reverence like a Schindler's list, doesn't make them right as some people will say its not that serious it's just a movie or others will feel all that stuff was a long time ago and time to move on however they are not necessarily wrong either as there are a lot of people who agree. Just depends on what side of the coin you stand on, really to me it's about being able to see another persons point of view Phone Post
12/30/12 8:58 PM
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I saw the movie today with a racially diverse crowd.

Loved the soundtrack. Loved looking for all the cameos, original Django included. Loved the movie.

Who was the chick with her face covered? One of the trackers. He did a close up on her face and then later came back to her when she was looking at the stereoscope but that was it in the characters development. Anyone know the story there?
12/30/12 9:02 PM
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PoundforPound - Have you seen the movie, pharochuck?
Nope and that's why I don't really have any critique of the actual movie. I'm just pointing out for those who seemed upset that there might be black people who got offended that maybe they should look at the whole thing from their points of view. Phone Post
12/30/12 9:02 PM
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Absolutely amazing imo! Phone Post
12/30/12 9:12 PM
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JuicyThurmite - If you think he dealt with slavery in a comedic and lighthearted way you obviously have not seen the film and thus your opinion does not matter Phone Post
It's a movie about slavery and there is comedic bits in it. Spike's issue and many others is they feel the subject matter should be treated with reverence like a Schindler's list, doesn't make them right as some people will say its not that serious it's just a movie or others will feel all that stuff was a long time ago and time to move on however they are not necessarily wrong either as there are a lot of people who agree. Just depends on what side of the coin you stand on, really to me it's about being able to see another persons point of view Phone Post
Yes there is comedic bits in it but they have nothing to do with slavery. The parts depicting slavery are some of the most disgusting and vile parts of the movie. They never depict slavery in a light manner. Just because it's a movie with slavery in it doesn't make it a movie about slavery. Again, you should consider actually watching the film before judging it. Phone Post
12/30/12 9:16 PM
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Those whining about the movie should probably consider it from a different POV.
12/30/12 9:18 PM
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JuicyThurmite - If you think he dealt with slavery in a comedic and lighthearted way you obviously have not seen the film and thus your opinion does not matter Phone Post
It's a movie about slavery and there is comedic bits in it. Spike's issue and many others is they feel the subject matter should be treated with reverence like a Schindler's list, doesn't make them right as some people will say its not that serious it's just a movie or others will feel all that stuff was a long time ago and time to move on however they are not necessarily wrong either as there are a lot of people who agree. Just depends on what side of the coin you stand on, really to me it's about being able to see another persons point of view Phone Post
Yes there is comedic bits in it but they have nothing to do with slavery. The parts depicting slavery are some of the most disgusting and vile parts of the movie. They never depict slavery in a light manner. Just because it's a movie with slavery in it doesn't make it a movie about slavery. Again, you should consider actually watching the film before judging it. Phone Post
Once again, not judging the movie. Just pointing out that there are some people who feel the subject matter should be handled with more reverence. Phone Post
12/30/12 9:19 PM
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MisterFixit - I saw the movie today with a racially diverse crowd.

Loved the soundtrack. Loved looking for all the cameos, original Django included. Loved the movie.

Who was the chick with her face covered? One of the trackers. He did a close up on her face and then later came back to her when she was looking at the stereoscope but that was it in the characters development. Anyone know the story there?
Zoe bell Phone Post
12/30/12 9:22 PM
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JuicyThurmite - If you think he dealt with slavery in a comedic and lighthearted way you obviously have not seen the film and thus your opinion does not matter Phone Post
It's a movie about slavery and there is comedic bits in it. Spike's issue and many others is they feel the subject matter should be treated with reverence like a Schindler's list, doesn't make them right as some people will say its not that serious it's just a movie or others will feel all that stuff was a long time ago and time to move on however they are not necessarily wrong either as there are a lot of people who agree. Just depends on what side of the coin you stand on, really to me it's about being able to see another persons point of view Phone Post
Yes there is comedic bits in it but they have nothing to do with slavery. The parts depicting slavery are some of the most disgusting and vile parts of the movie. They never depict slavery in a light manner. Just because it's a movie with slavery in it doesn't make it a movie about slavery. Again, you should consider actually watching the film before judging it. Phone Post
Once again, not judging the movie. Just pointing out that there are some people who feel the subject matter should be handled with more reverence. Phone Post
Very well to each his own. But, I stand by my claim that you should check the film out. It truly is one of, if not the best movie of the year. It would be a shame to miss it. Phone Post
12/30/12 9:32 PM
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JuicyThurmite - If you think he dealt with slavery in a comedic and lighthearted way you obviously have not seen the film and thus your opinion does not matter Phone Post
It's a movie about slavery and there is comedic bits in it. Spike's issue and many others is they feel the subject matter should be treated with reverence like a Schindler's list, doesn't make them right as some people will say its not that serious it's just a movie or others will feel all that stuff was a long time ago and time to move on however they are not necessarily wrong either as there are a lot of people who agree. Just depends on what side of the coin you stand on, really to me it's about being able to see another persons point of view Phone Post
Yes there is comedic bits in it but they have nothing to do with slavery. The parts depicting slavery are some of the most disgusting and vile parts of the movie. They never depict slavery in a light manner. Just because it's a movie with slavery in it doesn't make it a movie about slavery. Again, you should consider actually watching the film before judging it. Phone Post
Once again, not judging the movie. Just pointing out that there are some people who feel the subject matter should be handled with more reverence. Phone Post
Very well to each his own. But, I stand by my claim that you should check the film out. It truly is one of, if not the best movie of the year. It would be a shame to miss it. Phone Post
Everyone is saying it is a masterful bit of filmmaking. Tarantino is an exceptional filmmaker, most likely I will slide into a matinee this week Phone Post
12/30/12 9:35 PM
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There is nothing funny about the depiction of slavery in this movie. In fact many of the scenes made me feel very uncomfortable.
12/30/12 10:05 PM
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I am NOT a "movie buff". I see MAYBE one movie a year, but my kids (7 & 9) were visiting for Christmas, so I took them to see this Rango Unchained.

OK, now maybe I'm nuts here, but I could have SWORN this was supposed to be an animated movie about like a cowboy lizard or something along those lines. I just kept sitting there, waiting for them to magically transform into a cartoon world or something. Eventually, I fell asleep, but the kids seemed to like it more or less, from what I could tell. But I don't know... from what I saw, it was not what I was expecting.
12/30/12 10:25 PM
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MisterFixit - I saw the movie today with a racially diverse crowd.

Loved the soundtrack. Loved looking for all the cameos, original Django included. Loved the movie.

Who was the chick with her face covered? One of the trackers. He did a close up on her face and then later came back to her when she was looking at the stereoscope but that was it in the characters development. Anyone know the story there?

I wondered about that as well.
12/30/12 11:33 PM
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mmabmt - Great movie. Not sure what people are offended by. What were they supposed to call the slaves....maybe disenfranchised african americans. That would seem authentic.
The people I know who are offended, took offense to the theme and the fact that Tarantino has been accused in the past of exploiting the word for shock value. Imagine if a director who in the past had been accused of anti Semitic themes made 'an epic movie with comedic elements' around the holocaust. Would Jewish people be okay with being told to laugh it off or that was a long time ago get over it? Spike lee is the designated nag and a drama queen on this type of stuff but on this one he is right on the money, he's being vilified because 'oh it's spike crying about racism again' but he has legit points. I'm sure the movie is masterly made, lot of talented people involved, but if people get offended and feel that the subject matter should be handled with more reverence no one should be mad at them or act like they don't get where they would be coming from Phone Post
Where/when has this righteous indignation been focused on rap music, haven't heard one word from Spike on the subject, pretty sure he has used the word in his movies, if QT were black we wouldn't have heard a peep which makes any criticism extremely contradictory, also think u should see it before passing judgement... Phone Post
You are missing the point, spike and others criticism isn't about the n-word, so the rap music comparison doesn't fit. it's about a guy who admits he loves blaxploitation making a movie about slavery and adding comedy. If the wayans brothers made a movie about the holocaust and had levity in it their careers would be over, if they even pitched a holocaust comedy they would be done. Phone Post

"The people I know who are offended, took offense to the theme and the fact that Tarantino has been accused in the past of exploiting the word for shock value. Imagine if a director who in the past had been accused of anti Semitic themes made 'an epic movie with comedic elements' around the holocaust. "

I can understand being offended by the overuse of the n-word. It's not a nice word and some people don't like it being used in any context, which is reasonable.

As far as your second point about Jewish parallel, Tarantino did exactly that with Inglurious Basterds - a movie which, I'm guessing, by its popularity the majority of Jewish people loved.

Tarantino was not mocking the Holocaust in the slightest in IG, just as he wasn't mocking slavery in Django. He was providing a fictional account of these events in a way that empowered the "subjects" and which had Tarantino's artistic stamp as far as the character development in these films.





12/30/12 11:35 PM
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Those whining about the theme should consider the issue from another POV.

Or STFU.

Great movie.
12/30/12 11:42 PM
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shootfighterbull - Tarantino is an artist. The Wayans bros are not. That's the difference.

Also, if Sam Jackson works with him, then any bullshit saying he is exploiting is retarded.

Btw, I thought Jackson stole the show. Him and Leo were incredible. Phone Post
They are corny dudes,but it is their art. And Sam Jackson doesn't have that level of respect where if he's any it erases any criticism of the movie. Only Denzel commands that type of respect, Sam Jackson is looked at as a guy who will show up in any production that the check doesn't bounce Phone Post

To that I would respond, who cares what anyone thinks of Sam Jackson or any Black actor that "simply" collects a check. That's his job and he's an individual who doesn't have to "earn his dues" or ingratiate himself to the various gatekeepers of Black etiquette like the Spike Lee's of the world.

12/30/12 11:46 PM
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PoundforPound - Have you seen the movie, pharochuck?
Nope and that's why I don't really have any critique of the actual movie. I'm just pointing out for those who seemed upset that there might be black people who got offended that maybe they should look at the whole thing from their points of view. Phone Post

And how many of these "Black people" have actually seen the film? It reminds me of the outrage over Passion.
12/31/12 12:58 AM
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The movie was mediocre. Main character has 0 personality or presence on the screen. There were some good moments thanks to DiCaprio, Waltz and Jackson but overall, pretty bad.
12/31/12 8:35 AM
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mmabmt - Great movie. Not sure what people are offended by. What were they supposed to call the slaves....maybe disenfranchised african americans. That would seem authentic.
The people I know who are offended, took offense to the theme and the fact that Tarantino has been accused in the past of exploiting the word for shock value. Imagine if a director who in the past had been accused of anti Semitic themes made 'an epic movie with comedic elements' around the holocaust. Would Jewish people be okay with being told to laugh it off or that was a long time ago get over it? Spike lee is the designated nag and a drama queen on this type of stuff but on this one he is right on the money, he's being vilified because 'oh it's spike crying about racism again' but he has legit points. I'm sure the movie is masterly made, lot of talented people involved, but if people get offended and feel that the subject matter should be handled with more reverence no one should be mad at them or act like they don't get where they would be coming from Phone Post
Where/when has this righteous indignation been focused on rap music, haven't heard one word from Spike on the subject, pretty sure he has used the word in his movies, if QT were black we wouldn't have heard a peep which makes any criticism extremely contradictory, also think u should see it before passing judgement... Phone Post
You are missing the point, spike and others criticism isn't about the n-word, so the rap music comparison doesn't fit. it's about a guy who admits he loves blaxploitation making a movie about slavery and adding comedy. If the wayans brothers made a movie about the holocaust and had levity in it their careers would be over, if they even pitched a holocaust comedy they would be done. Phone Post
I'm afraid you are terribly misinformed sir, either that or trolling, not sure which...

His statement inspired a lively debate, which Mr. Lee engaged in, weighing in and retweeting commenters on Saturday evening. He has taken issue with Mr. Tarantino’s work before, particularly his use of a racial epithet.

“I can’t speak on it ’cause I’m not gonna see it,” he said. “The only thing I can say is it’s disrespectful to my ancestors, to see that film.” Phone Post
12/31/12 8:38 AM
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Spike Lee is a fucking fag
12/31/12 8:47 AM
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thirdleg - Spike Lee is a fucking fag
Oh yeah, it gets better...

In another interview with Vibe, Jamie Foxx, who plays Django, said Mr. Lee told him at the BET Awards in September that he would not speak out about the film. “You know Spike, he’ll let you have it whether it’s good, bad or ugly,” Mr. Foxx told the magazine. “And he said, ‘I’m not going to say anything bad about this film. It looks like y’all are getting it.’ ” Phone Post
12/31/12 10:20 AM
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I think it's rather embarassing for Spike Lee that he cannot appreciate art for art's sake. Says a lot about the man.
12/31/12 11:01 AM
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LOVED IT!!! Phone Post
12/31/12 11:56 AM
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Loved the cameos too, Bo Duke, main nerd from revenge of nerds and Sex Machine... Phone Post

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