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Matrix films blamed for series of murders by obsessed fans

One of the attractions of The Matrix, the film whose sequel, The Matrix Reloaded, opens in Britain next week, was its blending of fantasy and reality. A series of murders in the United States suggests some people have been unable to distinguish between the two.

Josh Cooke, a 19-year-old in Oakton, Virginia, owned a trenchcoat like the one worn by Neo, the character played by Keanu Reeves in the movie, and kept a poster of his hero on his bedroom wall. Then he bought a gun similar to the one used by Neo to fight evil. 

 In February, he shot his father and mother in the basement of their home and then called the police. His lawyers say he believed that he was living inside the Matrix.

The theme of the films is that computers have taken over the earth, although some humans exist in a computer-simulated world, battling to save humanity. "He's just obsessed with it," Cooke's defence attorney, Rachel Fierro, told the Washington Post.

The local prosecutor, Robert Horan, said: "I don't think the movie causes violence. Millions and millions of people have seen it and not killed anybody." Cooke will now be examined by a psychiatrist.

The Matrix seems to have spawned other imitators. Last week in Ohio, a woman was found not guilty of killing the professor whose house she rented, on the grounds of insanity. Tonda Lynn Ansley, 37, said she had had dreams which turned out not to be dreams. The local prosecutor said that, "in her warped perception", the film played a part in the killing.

In San Francisco in 2000, Vadim Mieseges, 27, killed his landlady, Ella Wong, and pleaded not guilty on grounds of insanity. The police who interviewed him said he had made "reference to being sucked into the Matrix".

The young man accused of taking part in last year's sniper attacks in the Washington area has also cited the film.

"Free yourself of the Matrix," wrote Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, one of the two defendants, in his jail cell.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/19/usa.filmnews

IDXtreme - 

Orcus Knows MMA Better Than Goku - 

IDXtreme - Notice we are never told any specific names of witnesses who are quoted that decribe Adam as a time bomb? Those witnesses are always anonymous.

But when they are quoted by name, Adam is quite the opposite.

what do u mean. pretty much everyone that knew of him didnt actually know him. the fact that his mom was looking to institutionalize him is telling.

Why? Becuase he was violent? Or was it because he was becoming catatonic?

Gendai Budo - 

EVILYOSHIDA -

MiddleFingersAreForLosers - BAN RELIGION!

Nope.

Just don't promote bad religion.

Our pop culture today is filled with satanic symbols. that needs to go.

that's it!

I agree that we should ban bad religion.




















85% of the prison population in the United States is Christian.

Redneck - 

Matrix films blamed for series of murders by obsessed fans

 

One of the attractions of The Matrix, the film whose sequel, The Matrix Reloaded, opens in Britain next week, was its blending of fantasy and reality. A series of murders in the United States suggests some people have been unable to distinguish between the two.

In February, he shot his father and mother in the basement of their home and then called the police. His lawyers say he believed that he was living inside the Matrix.

The theme of the films is that computers have taken over the earth, although some humans exist in a computer-simulated world, battling to save humanity. "He's just obsessed with it," Cooke's defence attorney, Rachel Fierro, told the Washington Post.

The local prosecutor, Robert Horan, said: "I don't think the movie causes violence. Millions and millions of people have seen it and not killed anybody." Cooke will now be examined by a psychiatrist.

The Matrix seems to have spawned other imitators. Last week in Ohio, a woman was found not guilty of killing the professor whose house she rented, on the grounds of insanity. Tonda Lynn Ansley, 37, said she had had dreams which turned out not to be dreams. The local prosecutor said that, "in her warped perception", the film played a part in the killing.

In San Francisco in 2000, Vadim Mieseges, 27, killed his landlady, Ella Wong, and pleaded not guilty on grounds of insanity. The police who interviewed him said he had made "reference to being sucked into the Matrix".

The young man accused of taking part in last year's sniper attacks in the Washington area has also cited the film.

"Free yourself of the Matrix," wrote Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, one of the two defendants, in his jail cell.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/19/usa.filmnews

 

 

 

Is that a legit news source Redneck?

Here's another article, it documents 15 different movies that have been inspired real crimes.

I'll just cite one example here.

Natural Born Killers (1994)

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The natural place to start any discussion of this topic is Natural Born Killers, the film that has inspired the greatest determinable wave of copycat killings: not only has it been associated with the highest number of separate killing sprees but it is also the one film where the killers definitively admit that the film was the source of their actions. Unsurprisingly, Tarantino was involved in the writing of a film which involves a couple who embark on a spate of glorified murders that ultimately catapult the killers into stardom. That this film spawned a series of real-life killings constitutes a matryoshka doll of twists that M. Night Shyamalan could only dream of: the film’s homicidal lovers Mickey and Mallory Knox were themselves based on the serial exploits of the real-life couple Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate.
 

The most famous killings allegedly caused by Natural Born Killers were committed by the couple Sarah Edmonson and Benjamin Darrus: famous neither for the number of victims (2) nor any specific modus operandi (the killers dropped LSD and watched the film several times before shooting two victims soon after), but for the unsuccessful legal action brought by the victims’ family and friends (most notably, legal fiction author John Grisham) against the creators of the film that challenged the First Amendment of the Constitution itself. Natural Born Killers was also an influence for the perpetrators of the Columbine massacre, with the phrase “going NBK” in the journal entries of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold signaling the start of their rampage. Jeremy Steinke claimed on an audio tape that the slaughter of his girlfriend’s parents and brother was his love legacya la Natural Born Killers.

In addition to these, some other crimes have been significantly influenced by Natural Born Killers:

* The decapitation of a 13 year old Texan girl by a 14 year old boy who wanted “to be famous like the Natural Born Killers”.
* Nathan Martinez murdering his mother and sister after becoming obsessed with the film.
* Angus Wallan and Kara Winn murdering their roommate.
* Eric Tavulares murdering Lauren Aljubouri halfway through watching the film

The rest can be seen listed here:

http://brainz.org/15-films-inspired-real-life-crimes/

ArtMinaj - 

Redneck - 

Matrix films blamed for series of murders by obsessed fans

 

One of the attractions of The Matrix, the film whose sequel, The Matrix Reloaded, opens in Britain next week, was its blending of fantasy and reality. A series of murders in the United States suggests some people have been unable to distinguish between the two.

In February, he shot his father and mother in the basement of their home and then called the police. His lawyers say he believed that he was living inside the Matrix.

The theme of the films is that computers have taken over the earth, although some humans exist in a computer-simulated world, battling to save humanity. "He's just obsessed with it," Cooke's defence attorney, Rachel Fierro, told the Washington Post.

The local prosecutor, Robert Horan, said: "I don't think the movie causes violence. Millions and millions of people have seen it and not killed anybody." Cooke will now be examined by a psychiatrist.

The Matrix seems to have spawned other imitators. Last week in Ohio, a woman was found not guilty of killing the professor whose house she rented, on the grounds of insanity. Tonda Lynn Ansley, 37, said she had had dreams which turned out not to be dreams. The local prosecutor said that, "in her warped perception", the film played a part in the killing.

In San Francisco in 2000, Vadim Mieseges, 27, killed his landlady, Ella Wong, and pleaded not guilty on grounds of insanity. The police who interviewed him said he had made "reference to being sucked into the Matrix".

The young man accused of taking part in last year's sniper attacks in the Washington area has also cited the film.

"Free yourself of the Matrix," wrote Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, one of the two defendants, in his jail cell.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/may/19/usa.filmnews

 

 

 

Is that a legit news source Redneck?

If by 'legit" you mean a corporate owned, mainstream news source, as preferred by the OG, then yes.

So then why post it?  I thought you were against that type of thing?

YVEL MACHIDA -  I wonder how much violence dangerous conspiracy theories has caused?

It has caused high blood pressure and pulsating jugular veins in many of the people that cannot handle the truth being dished out to them. It has also caused many of them to go on voting down frenzies, in a futile effort to stop reality from sinking in.

MMA All Day - Fuck.

It's 2013.

EY, can you not shut the fuck up for one goddamn day and lighten up? You're the worst exploiter and spreader of misinformation I have ever come across. No wonder you praise the Catholic Church. You're just as delusional as those fucking pedophiles.

Adam Lanza was fucking crazy. So are you. Deal with it.

Redneck -

YVEL MACHIDA -  I wonder how much violence dangerous conspiracy theories has caused?

It has caused high blood pressure and pulsating jugular veins in many of the people that cannot handle the truth being dished out to them. It has also caused many of them to go on voting down frenzies, in a futile effort to stop reality from sinking in.

ArtMinaj - 

So then why post it?  I thought you were against that type of thing?

Oh no, i'm not against it. You have to present evidence to the audience in a manner that they will accept. If I linked to an article from say infowars.com for example, they would say "lol @ the source", but when I show them that the source is one of their accepted sources for news, they can't pull the "lol @ the source" card.

MiddleFingersAreForLosers - BAN RELIGION!

THIS!!!

IDXtreme - Studies of children with Asperger syndrome suggest that their problems with socialization and communication continue into adulthood. Some of these children develop additional psychiatric symptoms and disorders in adolescence and adulthood.

I have much education and REAL LIFE experience with this. 

I await EY to say that these studies are flawed and post something from youtube.

God Bless Tim Tebow -

Gendai Budo - 

EVILYOSHIDA -

MiddleFingersAreForLosers - BAN RELIGION!

Nope.

Just don't promote bad religion.

Our pop culture today is filled with satanic symbols. that needs to go.

that's it!

I agree that we should ban bad religion.




















85% of the prison population in the United States is Christian.

>Goes out and murders people

>Goes to jail

>DURRRR I R CHRISTIAN GOD FORGIVE MA SINS

Get the process?

Gendai Budo - 

EVILYOSHIDA -

MiddleFingersAreForLosers - BAN RELIGION!

Nope.

Just don't promote bad religion.

Our pop culture today is filled with satanic symbols. that needs to go.

that's it!

I agree that we should ban bad religion.




















85% of the prison population in the United States is Christian.

The Basketball Diaries(1995)

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The Basketball Diaries features Leonardo DiCaprio as a talented basketball player who spirals into heroin addiction. Like Inception, the major controversy stems from a dream consequence: in The Basketball Diaries DiCaprio has a daydream where, clad in a black trenchcoat, he enters his class with a shotgun and proceeds to massacre his classmates like Xaero with quad-damage. And, just like Inception, when someone follows Leo’s example, people die. Case in point: Barry Loukaitis’ 1996 classroom shooting that left 3 people dead. Loukaitis wore a black trenchcoat in which he concealed pistols, ammunition and a rifle; he entered the classroom and began shooting. After he had finished, he allegedly smiled and said, “That sure beats algebra, doesn’t it?” The expressions of his classmates were unknown, although we can assume they were equivalent to a negative. 

 

Redneck - 

ArtMinaj - 

So then why post it?  I thought you were against that type of thing?

Oh no, i'm not against it. You have to present evidence to the audience in a manner that they will accept. If I linked to an article from say infowars.com for example, they would say "lol @ the source", but when I show them that the source is one of their accepted sources for news, they can't pull the "lol @ the source" card.

Right, so you used the mainstream media which you are so against. 

Of course people would LOL at something from infowars.  It's a site run by a fat loser to cater to losers like EY. 

MisterFixit - 

Tiresias - 

MisterFixit - Satanism and Christianity are opposite ends of the same ruler.

Ban the ruler is the only way mankind can progress.

You can not ban religion without instituting totalitarian forms of government.  Do you think it is a good idea to institute totalitarianism?

I'm not sure.

Maybe you could explain how a totalitarian society would be fundamentally different than it is today.

What would be different about our day to day lives?

Are you seriously confused about this?  there would be VAST differences in our day to day lives.  Totalitarianism is a form of goverment that seeks to control all aspects of culture.  You would have to profess the state beliefs or be prosecuted!  In your totalitarian state you have banned religion.  In order to enforce this ban, you would have to have police of some kind arresting people that practiced religion.  Is there really an analog to that in our present society?