dana white offers mike dolce to cyborg

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igorkneedskerr Member Since: 10/5/12 Posts: 0	I wish this was really about Cyborg being offered a fight with Dolce as a diss from Dana. You have ignored this user.

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Unwariestpickle Member Since: 12/25/11 Posts: 484	Cyborg being busted for steroids makes Rhonda's demands reasonable. Being striped of her title and suspended for a year makes her lose a lot of leverage. Not to mention that if she could make 145 on juice, she should be able to safely make 135 without it. You have ignored this user.

1/2/13 12:55 PM

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JustAnotherMMAFan

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1) People who say Cyborg can make 135 lbs. by just cutting steroids or whatever are simply speculating. No one knows.

2) Dana wants women fighting? Make a 140 lb. division. That would bring to the mix Ronda Rousey, Julia Budd, Cris Cyborg, Marloes Coenen, Miesha Tate, Sarah Kauffman, Alexis Davis, Amanda Nunes, Shayna Baszler, Sara McMann, Germaine de Randamie, Liz Carmouche, Cat Zingano ... and all the talent pool he needs for a great division and tons of entertaining fights.

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greenbeard Edited: 01/02/13 2:40 PM Member Since: 6/8/11 Posts: 50	[IMG]http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q104/cptgreenbeard/dolche_zps7a17cefe.jpg[/IMG] You have ignored this user.

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newjack900 12 Member Since: 11/21/10 Posts: 479	Didn't Gina have an (allegedly) juiced up Cyborg in full mount at one pt in their fight? She's a legit badass Dana should be begging her to make an appearance for the UFC You have ignored this user.

1/2/13 5:19 PM

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Billyz 1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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I dont understand why people are siding with Cyborg unless its rooted in some dislike for Rousey.

The facts are Cyborg carries massive amounts of muscle for a woman and many if not all people thought she was cheating for the obvious reason. ... Oh and she was finally caught.

Why would the champion of a lower weight class that did what SHE needed to do to get down to the weight. appease a known cheater whose career legitamcy is in question to begin with?
If people don't remember she won Olympic bronze at 70kg.
She lost weight to compete in MMA at 145 and lost even more to fight at 135 where she like many male counterparts would have a size and strength advantage.
She sacrificed Muscle
She is the champion at 135.
Yet requesting that from a proven cheater at a higher weight class is too much?!?!?!

How is that ducking?!

She is making a reasonable demand that Cyborg could do.
I am curious to see weight cyborg was before she started "lifting"

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ABE FROMAN Member Since: 12/15/02 Posts: 69984	ttt You have ignored this user.

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JustAnotherMMAFan

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Billyz - I dont understand why people are siding with Cyborg unless its rooted in some dislike for Rousey.

The facts are Cyborg carries massive amounts of muscle for a woman and many if not all people thought she was cheating for the obvious reason. ... Oh and she was finally caught.

Why would the champion of a lower weight class that did what SHE needed to do to get down to the weight. appease a known cheater whose career legitamcy is in question to begin with?
If people don't remember she won Olympic bronze at 70kg.
She lost weight to compete in MMA at 145 and lost even more to fight at 135 where she like many male counterparts would have a size and strength advantage.
She sacrificed Muscle
She is the champion at 135.
Yet requesting that from a proven cheater at a higher weight class is too much?!?!?!

How is that ducking?!

She is making a reasonable demand that Cyborg could do.
I am curious to see weight cyborg was before she started "lifting"

"Siding" with Cyborg? Maybe Ronda is reinventing the rules?

Can Anderson Silva call Overeem out and demand a fight at 185 lbs., because he has been cheating?

Let's remember why this fight is happening in the first place...?

Ronda was insulting Cyborg before there was a fight in sight. At the same time, she was claiming she would never ever make 135 lbs.. When Cyborg finally called her out, and Ronda had a legit title shot at 145 lbs., she decided to drop weight and fight a smaller opponent in Miesha Tate.

Ronda knew Cyborg was cheating from the get-go. If she didn't want to fight Cyborg under those circumstances, she shouldn't call her out in the first place (when both were 145 lbers. -- which, by the way, was Ronda's weight class in 4 of her 6 pro fights and all her 3 amateur fights)!

Let's be honest here: Ronda might as well beat Overeem at 135 lbs (provided he can lose all his muscles and make the cut, and become but skins and bones!)!

The same goes with Cyborg (to a lesser extent). I think no one believes she will fight at 135 lbs., without sacrifing her strength, speed and cardio. And Ronda knows it.

IMO, the fans who demand that Cyborg cut to 135 lbs. are afraid to see Ronda take a (very problable) beating at 145 lbs..

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easedel 56 Member Since: 7/14/10 Posts: 2352	Way to reward cheating. You have ignored this user.

1/2/13 7:25 PM

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Argo

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Billy Joe Rottoncrotch - It's fucking ridiculous that Ronda is gonna make Cyborg suck herself dry to the point where she enters the cage a shell of the fighter who beat Gina Carano.

If Ronda really thinks her judo is so badass, she shouldn't have any problem fighting Cyborg at 145.

In fact, she should WANT to fight Cyborg at 145, so there won't be any excuses if she wins.

But obviously that's not what she wants.

This is so obtuse and addle minded.

Previously Rhonda wanted to go down to 135 to get a belt and then fight Cyborg at 145 to get both belts. Also make it a bigger fight.

The Cyborg gets suspended for cheating and loses a year.

Now there isn't a Strikeforce and there isn't a 145 division in the UFC ... and Cyborg is a proven cheat. (which everyone could see anyway)

Rhonda is the UFC 135 champ. She fights at 135. How on any earth for anyone with a brain is it ridiculous for the UFC 135 champ wanting the fight only at 135 since that is the only female division in the UFC?

What would a fight at 145 achieve? Nothing. Rhonda wins it matters only to hardcore nuthuggers and if she loses it doesn't matter either since the winner has no division to fight in.

Cyborg de-roids and fights at 135 ... then the fight means something. The winner has legitimacy and the UFC has a winner that can win the belt and actually defend it.

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QueenCityLurker 1 Member Since: 12/24/11 Posts: 13	Still waiting for RVD to respond to Gunnar's post... lol You have ignored this user.

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TexasBadAss 20 Member Since: 11/21/02 Posts: 1844	Does Tito manage any other fighters? How he would step over a dollar to pick up a dime is beyond me. Your money fight is Rhonda at 135 in the UFC. A business man would encourage his fighter to lose the weight via Dolce or jenny craig before Rhonda loses and the money goes away. You have ignored this user.

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StratTone Edited: 01/03/13 1:36 PM Member Since: 6/20/08 Posts: 373	<br><blockquote>JM Barrie - Mike never even went to college but yet he gets praised, its absurd. She needs an actual professional.f</blockquote><br /> Nothing wrong with respecting a degree but it is not wise to assume the only place to attain knowledge is in school. You have ignored this user.

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ABE FROMAN Member Since: 12/15/02 Posts: 69986	JM Barrie - Mike never even went to college but yet he gets praised, its absurd. She needs an actual professional.f Thanks for your second post. Mike apparently gets results, something that a degree doesn't guarantee you. You have ignored this user.

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