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UnderGround Forum >> Jones tells Cerrone: "You don't make $1M to fight"
| 1/2/13 5:50 PM | |
buckshot44
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Member Since: 12/3/10 Posts: 2448 |
At this point, there is nobody I want to see lose more than Jones. |
| 1/2/13 5:51 PM | |
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trubs
Member Since: 2/13/11 Posts: 7 |
Keep in mind this was at a UFC Q and A, he was asked directly. For those people questioning why he would even say this. I love Cerrone's attitude. He's a fighter and getting paid to fight is just a bonus. Not so much an athlete who see's that there is money in fighting. Jone's decision was right for him and wrong for other's. It doesn't matter. He's full of himself and honestly, he's entitled to it cause no one even comes close to him in the cage, it's not an imaginary view of himself like so many dipshits we know, it's a FACT. Until someone puts a beating on him he's entitled to it. That being said, I'm a Cerrone guy over a Jones guy every day of the week. |
| 1/2/13 5:58 PM | |
BooZe
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Member Since: 10/10/11 Posts: 1693 |
goes to show you how his own teammates feel about him, good to see that the people inside his circle think he's a douche and not just the fans from the outside... |
| 1/2/13 6:02 PM | |
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Bailx
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Edited: 01/02/13 6:03 PM Member Since: 11/23/02 Posts: 2277 |
I hope Cerrone gets his title shot, not sure if Benson will lose anytime soon, but I like that he can challenge his teammate, in what seems like a respectful way. |
| 1/2/13 6:03 PM | |
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DaddyRich
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Member Since: 8/22/02 Posts: 1350 |
The two guys are just wired differently. Cowboy would risk his fighting career to ride bulls and do any other crazy, fun thing he wanted until Zuffa prohibited it. Jon wants to protect his status and position as a fighter. Nothing wrong with either mindset IMO. |
| 1/2/13 6:12 PM | |
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Wasa-B
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 42651 |
Bailx - why do people keep riding on this "in the old days we had real fighters" thing? Did anyone in the "old days" face Bader, Shogun, Rampage, Machida, Rashad and Vitor and crush them all outside of Rashad who he still dominated in the span of like 19 months? |
| 1/2/13 6:40 PM | |
IDOHARM
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Member Since: 12/29/12 Posts: 89 |
thatsme -Truth.WestCoastMXC - That's why nobody respects Jones as a person. 
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| 1/2/13 6:48 PM | |
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WestCoastMXC
Member Since: 7/17/12 Posts: 904 |
thatsme -Clever comeback but it's well known most people don't have respect for the way her carries himself. Drunk driving with two women in his back seat at two in the morning while his fiance is at home after he does interview after interview saying how good of a person he is and how he would never get caught drinking. I order every UFC and always enjoy watching him fight but outside of that I would never say I'm a fan.WestCoastMXC - That's why nobody respects Jones as a person. Just my personal opinion. 
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| 1/2/13 6:49 PM | |
chaplinshouse
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Member Since: 4/5/09 Posts: 3768 |
isn't getting compensated a lot more money, more reason to take the fight? i guess in Jones' eyes, it's less a reason. not sure the logic there. "If i only made 100K to fight, i'd have taken it, but I get 10x that much, so where's the incentive???" |
| 1/2/13 6:55 PM | |
KZTT_W85
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Member Since: 12/10/11 Posts: 1914 |
A few guys at his gym have called him out on matters publicly. Beginning to think he's not very popular amongst his peers
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| 1/2/13 7:02 PM | |
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WoodenPupa
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Member Since: 7/24/02 Posts: 7268 |
Fighters aren't allowed to weigh their circumstances from the point of view of making a living, investing in the future, and maximizing the value of the present like normal people. The "professional" part of "professional fighter" is an invisible prefix for most people, who conceive fighters from the Roman emperor's POV. Fighters are expected to adhere to the "fight when you're told to" equation while upholding a TUF-spastic "anyone anytime anywhere" identity for good measure. Failing to conform to that template suddenly makes the fighter a thinker, and as we all know, fighters shouldn't be thinking! It's un-fighter-like to have a leverage calculator in your mind, one that protects your future. It's apparently also against the warrior spirit to insist on preparation, even though fights are announced months in advance. Why is MMA called a "profession" or career in the first place? Isn't preparation a virtue of professionalism, and isn't performance mainly the result of it? Comments from guys like Cerrone just indicate how hard it is to take their own profession seriously. As a result, their identity revolves around being a "fighter" who just lives to throw down. Well, if you choose MMA as a profession, you have no choice but to have that attitude or a similar one, since you won't have anything to show for your mangled face any time soon. Really, we can't blame Cerrone for this attitude for just those reasons. It's just a shame that very few fighters reach the point where they have to make decisions about the greater of two goods, instead of the lesser of two evils. |
| 1/2/13 7:06 PM | |
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3 Sided Square
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Member Since: 5/22/12 Posts: 3105 |
thatsme - So how'd this conversation go again:I bet this sounded hilarious in your head.
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| 1/2/13 7:10 PM | |
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DamnSevern
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Member Since: 9/29/09 Posts: 22695 |
KZTT_W85 - A few guys at his gym have called him out on matters publicly. besides cerrone, which teammates have said something? please show me sources as well. |
| 1/2/13 7:14 PM | |
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KZTT_W85
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Member Since: 12/10/11 Posts: 1916 |
DamnSevern -I'm not great at twitter and stuff, if I'm wrong I'm more than prepared to wear it.KZTT_W85 - A few guys at his gym have called him out on matters publicly. I know Diego 100% had some negative comments to say about him also. As I said im not trolling I'm sure a few guys have made comments. If I'm wrong, which I don't think I am then I'm prepared to wear that
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| 1/2/13 7:17 PM | |
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whoabro
Member Since: 1/22/07 Posts: 8861 |
Tru -This
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| 1/2/13 7:20 PM | |
ranier wolfcastle
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Member Since: 11/28/03 Posts: 59455 |
STAKES ARE MUCH HIGHTER FOR JJ. he has much more to lose. not accepting the chael fight, which i am sure he'd have won, was because of his strategy. he game plans for a specific opponent, and its a huge thing for him. it works, so i wont complain about it. cowboy may have beat diaz if he had game planned carefully and stuck to it during the fight. it probably woulda earned him a title shot too.... |
| 1/2/13 7:21 PM | |
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stonepony
Member Since: 9/1/11 Posts: 3945 |
JJ is not intimidated by Chael. He took the advice of his coaches. And, they haven't steered him wrong. They've earned the benefit of the doubt, and JJ is probably smart to defer to their judgment. I'm a fan of JJ and Chael, and yes Chael is probably going to get his butt kicked. But, Chael deserves respect too, for being a small fighter willing to fight JJ on short notice. People conveniently forget that everybody else ran out their back door with their cell turned off and hid in the bushes when Dana White was trying to find somebody to fill in for DH. |
| 1/2/13 7:31 PM | |
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WoodenPupa
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Member Since: 7/24/02 Posts: 7269 |
"besides cerrone, which teammates have said something? please show me sources as well." Good point, and also I'm wondering which MMA champions have talked crap about Jones' decision. As far as I know, nobody who gets a PPV cut from their fights criticized him. I don't even think anybody who regularly gets 6-figures did, champ or not. |
| 1/2/13 7:31 PM | |
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Phisher
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Member Since: 1/4/09 Posts: 2885 |
DamnSevern -KZTT_W85 - A few guys at his gym have called him out on matters publicly. Diego's the only other one that I'd heard saying anything about Jones. He said also said that Jones should have fought Chael on short notice.
Like I wrote in the other thread. If the fact that Jones didn't take the fight offends their sensibilities so much, why are they still with Jackson/Winkeljohn? It was the coaching staff that advised Jones not to fight Sonnen. |
| 1/2/13 7:34 PM | |
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Phisher
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Edited: 01/02/13 7:35 PM Member Since: 1/4/09 Posts: 2886 |
WoodenPupa - "besides cerrone, which teammates have said something? please show me sources as well."
Edgar said that he would have taken the fight. That was after he lost his belt.
GSP said that he would have taken the fight, which I don't believe for a second. GSP has shown that he does things at his pace and won't get forced into doing something he doesn't want to if it's against his best interest. Henderson defended Jones. Anderson said that it was Jones' choice. I don't remember the other guys who were champs at the time commenting. |
| 1/2/13 7:35 PM | |
Submissable
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Member Since: 5/14/08 Posts: 2893 |
WoodenPupa - "besides cerrone, which teammates have said something? please show me sources as well." Talk crap? No. Criticize? Not really. But a champ did offer to fight on 8 days notice to save that card. Even offered to fight at a weight class above his. He gets 6 figures and a PPV cut.
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| 1/2/13 7:42 PM | |
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12
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Member Since: 9/12/04 Posts: 9788 |
so jones headlines a 35 million $ event and only makes a million. he better pick his fights. |
| 1/2/13 7:46 PM | |
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GriffinQ
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Member Since: 10/17/09 Posts: 8119 |
Bailx -I can't tell if you're thinking Cerrone and Bendo are teammates, or if I'm misreading this... They're not, however I do think they're friends from their WEC days
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| 1/2/13 7:57 PM | |
shaqitup
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Member Since: 6/20/11 Posts: 1001 |
Wouldn't making a million to fight actually be incentive to take the fight? |
| 1/2/13 7:58 PM | |
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Nucky
Member Since: 11/14/12 Posts: 717 |
Only a fool would have taken Chael Sonnen on 8 days notice...Chael has the wrestling to win 5 round decision then what would the world think if you get tooled and lose your belt because u decided to take a no training camp fight. At least have a belt if your gonna rip on JBJ and what do you know not one person with a belt ripped on JBJ because then they would look like a fool if a short notice fight is required out of them and they turn it down. Only person i know who commented that had a belt was Benson Henderson and he said he agreed with Jones not taking the fight. |
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