UnderGround Forum >> Does Anderson have KO power?
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Tad Ghostal
Member Since: 6/30/10 Posts: 4627 |
orcus -Samoa - He doesn't have one-punch lights out power. He doesn't need it though and he lights up guys that so have it. Speed doesn't slump.....until age removes it. I suppose it depends on how he adapts as he ages, if he insists on continuing to fight at range and look for counters it could get messy quite quickly but I can imagine a 45 year old Anderson stalking forward, getting a clinch and landing knees. I seriously doubt we'll see him decline like Roy Jones, or any boxer for that matter, because of all the other skills he has. |
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Tad Ghostal
Member Since: 6/30/10 Posts: 4628 |
Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. 'Swarms'? That makes it sound like he swings wildly until the ref pulls him off. One of the things I find most impressive is his accuracy when punching a downed opponent. Irvin was covering up and he still managed to land cleanly. |
| 1/3/13 1:02 PM | |
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orcus
Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 75202 |
Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. Wasn't it the first punch that dropped Irvin, broke his orbital, and made him go fetal? The remaining punches were academic. Also the only one who didn't need to flail away on Forrest to pound him out. Anderson didn't even bother to follow up on the ground. |
| 1/3/13 1:07 PM | |
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Tad Ghostal
Member Since: 6/30/10 Posts: 4629 |
IDOHARM - Stephen Bonnar-TKO, Chael Sonnen-TKO, Vitor Belfort-KO, Yushin Okami-TKO, Forrest Griffin-KO, James Irvin-KO, Rich Franklin-TKO and KO, Nate Marquardt-TKO, Chris Leben-KO, Tony Fryklund-KO, Curtis Stout-KO. Did you read my OP or just the title of the thread? I'm not questioning his ability to finish a fight, I'm wondering if the fact he has little raw power (compared to a guy like Hendricks, who obviously does have KO power) makes it even more impressive that he finishes so many fighters. Also, there aren't any KOs in MMA i.e. on the record books, only TKOs. |
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Dana Stern
Member Since: 12/6/09 Posts: 1363 |
I dont believe Anderson has ever hit a guy with one punch and put them to sleep.
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Samoa
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Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. People area misunderstanding what I mean so will be clear: Anderson does NOT have one punch end the fight touch you and done power. Fedor, Henderson, Rampage, Hunt, Carwin, Hendricks, Condit, kind of power. I'm not denigrating the guy. I'm not saying he isn't the GOAT, but I am writing the truth.
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Samoa
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orcus -Was he knocked out....or not? Yes, or no.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage.
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| 1/3/13 1:13 PM | |
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IDOHARM
Member Since: 12/29/12 Posts: 134 |
Tad Ghostal -A KO would be considered a complete loss of consciousness, whereas a TKO would be attributed to Ref stoppage while the fighter still maintains some basic motor functions. That's the difference.IDOHARM - Stephen Bonnar-TKO, Chael Sonnen-TKO, Vitor Belfort-KO, Yushin Okami-TKO, Forrest Griffin-KO, James Irvin-KO, Rich Franklin-TKO and KO, Nate Marquardt-TKO, Chris Leben-KO, Tony Fryklund-KO, Curtis Stout-KO. I read your entire question, and his fight records definitively answers it. Anderson Silva is a knockout artist in all respects, and you'd need power and accuracy to produce the record that he has.
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| 1/3/13 1:14 PM | |
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Yoghurt
Member Since: 10/28/12 Posts: 21 |
Samoa -Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. Condit next to Fedor,Hendo,Carwin and Hunt? Derp |
| 1/3/13 1:15 PM | |
rumble_fish
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Samoa -Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. I'm with you on the anderson stuff, but putting Condit in that list of names for power punchers? WHUT? |
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Tad Ghostal
Member Since: 6/30/10 Posts: 4631 |
Samoa -Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. Swarm is actually quite an apt word now that I think about it, especially considering the 'Killer Bee' moniker. I definitely disagree with Orcus' use of the word flail though, landing straight punches is the opposite of flailing. |
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AlexanderTheGOAT
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Anderson has very good power.
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| 1/3/13 1:21 PM | |
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Tad Ghostal
Member Since: 6/30/10 Posts: 4632 |
IDOHARM -Tad Ghostal -A KO would be considered a complete loss of consciousness, whereas a TKO would be attributed to Ref stoppage while the fighter still maintains some basic motor functions. That's the difference.IDOHARM - Stephen Bonnar-TKO, Chael Sonnen-TKO, Vitor Belfort-KO, Yushin Okami-TKO, Forrest Griffin-KO, James Irvin-KO, Rich Franklin-TKO and KO, Nate Marquardt-TKO, Chris Leben-KO, Tony Fryklund-KO, Curtis Stout-KO. Who determines a complete loss of consciousness? The term KO comes from boxing and means that you didn't beat the 10 count, there's no 10 count in MMA so there's no KOs. |
| 1/3/13 1:37 PM | |
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Damaynevent
Member Since: 8/3/11 Posts: 597 |
I think a fighter's knockout power in my opinion depends upon the chin of the guy he's fighting. Of course timing & accuracy comes into play as well and Anderson is second to none when it comes to those attributes. |
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Samoa
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Yoghurt -I was thinking of one punch KO's and Condits knockout of Hardy came to mind. Maybe you can derp an example of a one PUNCH / walk away KO punch of Anderson's? Which punch?Samoa -Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. That would mean that Condit POSSESSESthe power for it, if he did it, right?
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IDOHARM
Member Since: 12/29/12 Posts: 137 |
Tad Ghostal -When a fighter is no longer actually awake, that's a KO in MMA. A TKO is when a fighter is still technically conscious, but no longer able to defend themselves intelligently.IDOHARM -Tad Ghostal -A KO would be considered a complete loss of consciousness, whereas a TKO would be attributed to Ref stoppage while the fighter still maintains some basic motor functions. That's the difference.IDOHARM - Stephen Bonnar-TKO, Chael Sonnen-TKO, Vitor Belfort-KO, Yushin Okami-TKO, Forrest Griffin-KO, James Irvin-KO, Rich Franklin-TKO and KO, Nate Marquardt-TKO, Chris Leben-KO, Tony Fryklund-KO, Curtis Stout-KO.
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spinningfapkick
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Lol at Anderson not having KO power. Bunch of idiots. This is why I stay on the OG.
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theseanster
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Samoa
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spinningfapkick - Lol at Anderson not having KO power. Bunch of idiots. This is why I stay on the OG.Definitely has KO power; in bunches. However, definitely does NOT have one-punch, one-and-done, walk away as they fall power.
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mestregruber
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One of the only fighters to ever drop Hendo with a punch. I personally think Dan was basically TKO'd before Anderson cinched up the RNC, too. |
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BradGluckman
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Yoghurt
Member Since: 10/28/12 Posts: 22 |
Samoa -Yoghurt -I was thinking of one punch KO's and Condits knockout of Hardy came to mind. Maybe you can derp an example of a one PUNCH / walk away KO punch of Anderson's? Which punch?Samoa -Tad Ghostal -That's not what I meant.....but review the finishes of his fights.....that's what I meant.Samoa -Fast Pitch - James Irvin would say yes.He one punched KO'd Irvin? No. He doesn't possess that kind of power. He possesses laser accuracy with very good power and then swarms for a ref stoppage. Point to a specific place in my post where i said Condit does not possess KO power. |
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Yoghurt
Member Since: 10/28/12 Posts: 23 |
BradGluckman - Hilarious! |
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spinningfapkick
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Samoa -Refer to the griffin gif please. That's Anderson pawing at someone's jaw, and them dropping. Are you saying you would be willing to let silva smash you in the face once to prove your point?spinningfapkick - Lol at Anderson not having KO power. Bunch of idiots. This is why I stay on the OG.Definitely has KO power; in bunches. However, definitely does NOT have one-punch, one-and-done, walk away as they fall power.
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spinningfapkick
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Yoghurt -Lol and this.BradGluckman -
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