UnderGround Forum >> Do you think Blood Doping happens in MMA?

im almost positive that its happening.

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

RickStorm -

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

 

RickStorm - 

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

 

The increase in red blood cells can be naturally induced by training at high altitude, so how would there be a test for injecting an athletes own packed red blood cells, as long as they do not exceed the maximum physiologically possible response.

RBC's last for 3 months in the body before they are broken down.

gooddoc - 

RickStorm - 

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

 

The increase in red blood cells can be naturally induced by training at high altitude, so how would there be a test for injecting an athletes own packed red blood cells, as long as they do not exceed the maximum physiologically possible response.

RBC's last for 3 months in the body before they are broken down.

For men, standard hematocrit (the proportion of red cells to other stuff) is about 44 to 45 percent. Most testing regulations dictate that competitors will be flagged if hematocrit is above 50 percent. So They aim for 49 and a half percent.

If the amount of red blood cells goes over that 50 percent mark (or whatever the mark is) athletes will add saline or plasma to their system, bringing the proportion back down to acceptable (but still performance-enhancing) levels.

gooddoc -

gooddoc - 

RickStorm - 

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

 

The increase in red blood cells can be naturally induced by training at high altitude, so how would there be a test for injecting an athletes own packed red blood cells, as long as they do not exceed the maximum physiologically possible response.

RBC's last for 3 months in the body before they are broken down.

For men, standard hematocrit (the proportion of red cells to other stuff) is about 44 to 45 percent. Most testing regulations dictate that competitors will be flagged if hematocrit is above 50 percent. So They aim for 49 and a half percent.

If the amount of red blood cells goes over that 50 percent mark (or whatever the mark is) athletes will add saline or plasma to their system, bringing the proportion back down to acceptable (but still performance-enhancing) levels.

gooddoc - 

gooddoc - 

RickStorm - 

I dont know much about this or the scientific side of it but seems to me if a fighter was to do that, how long does this blood last after reinjected before its back to normal. The athletic commision follows fighter around before the fight so they would have to reinject this blood back into their body before they get to the arena.. Im assuming.

 

The increase in red blood cells can be naturally induced by training at high altitude, so how would there be a test for injecting an athletes own packed red blood cells, as long as they do not exceed the maximum physiologically possible response.

RBC's last for 3 months in the body before they are broken down.

For men, standard hematocrit (the proportion of red cells to other stuff) is about 44 to 45 percent. Most testing regulations dictate that competitors will be flagged if hematocrit is above 50 percent. So They aim for 49 and a half percent.

If the amount of red blood cells goes over that 50 percent mark (or whatever the mark is) athletes will add saline or plasma to their system, bringing the proportion back down to acceptable (but still performance-enhancing) levels.

Thanks gooddoc.. pretty interesting stuff

nick diaz nut hugger -  From what I've read, it seems to be a very sophisticated way of cheating. Could you help explain if I'm right or wrong, gooddoc?

I don't think it is all that sophisticated, but if done correctly I don't think that there is any way to get caught.

The Super Bean -  Do you think Blood Doping happens or could become more popular in the future in regards to MMA?

From Wikipedia: Blood doping is the practice of boosting the number of red blood cells in the bloodstream in order to enhance athletic performance. Because such blood cells carry oxygen from the lungs to the muscles, a higher concentration in the blood can improve an athlete’s aerobic capacity (VO2 max) and endurance.

I've heard of reports that athletes train at high altitude to increase their red blood cells, then they are having their blood drawn, stored and then replaced when they compete at normal altitude.

As athletes get better and competition becomes harder in MMA, people are alway looking for a edge, do you see Blood Doping as something to look out for in MMA?

The only thing inaccurate here is that you would need to work out at altitude at all; increased RBC's is all your after  and injecting yourself with your own packed red blood cells is going to help, whether your body created them at altitude or not.

yes

About 3 months ago I worked for a professional triathlete who had actually beaten lance in a race before. 

Lance was not allowed to compete in the hawaii iron man and i think is banned from all compitions?

Anyways, they said 100 percent yes lance did blood dope, but that everyone did, so lance was still the best. this is not my opinion at all, just what they guys team told me when I asked about it.  Apparently blood doping in cycling is really bad, or was until this big bust.