antifret - 

youarewhatiswrong - 

GregBell  - Somethings not adding up Granted im not a rapist but trying to understand why and how...unless these guys are just retarded why would they rape a woman who knows them (I assume knows their full names) where they like to spend a lot time (brown belts probably working hard to get that bb at Li) how could they possibly BOTH be "down" with raping a chick woman that knows this much about them and think they could get away with it?? Oh and BJJ or not I dont know about other states but here in cali state or fed they would be facked pc or not you can only fight so many and best believe they will keep coming. Back to my point these guys are the dumbest bjj brown belts ever or theres more to the story imo.

Yeah, the stupidity is pretty astounding. I don't know how anyone who has demonstrated enough self discipline to earn a brown belt can fuck up that badly.

Alcohol likely.

^ This is pretty much the only conversation that matters 7 pages in imo

antifret - 

klabo - 

MMALOGIC -

NorthFromHere - Have fun getting raped in jail.

 

i BJJ brown belt isnt getting raped in jail... Unless he's facing a gang, the bjj brown belt is the one doing the raping.

 

Wrong. Weapons and cheaps shots are the norm... Never been locked up obviously. They'll get at him for being a rapist no doubt

Not going to address the insults from those who have taken things out of context. Obviously person is referring to a fair fight, no gangs, weapons and stuff like that that. Yes I realize that's not too common in jail. No I've never been locked up (proud of that fact thank you very much). Like I said, I'm an academic/researcher (not of the penal system). I do however hold a blue belt in BJJ and extensively trained muay thai and have been into street fights with "hardened" criminals and did pretty well. Imagine jail wouldn't be that different (I can join a gang or shank someone too) for me. Mental toughness is not limited to "hardened" criminals was my only point. Question for the jailbirds and corrections officers here. Would such a rapist be prevented from joining a gang based on his crimes alone? Would the fact that he is a deadly killer not make him a desirable member and make a gang willing to overlook the fact that he raped someone?

The Cats Masher - 

The Cats Masher -

DAVID H -

The Cats Masher - 

Ryann Von Doom -

fat referee -

MMALOGIC - 

NorthFromHere - Have fun getting raped in jail.

 

i BJJ brown belt isnt getting raped in jail... Unless he's facing a gang, the bjj brown belt is the one doing the raping.

 

This isn't a 8 minute gi match bro. Think 1 on 10 w/ shanks, gouging, etc

This isnt the movies lol

Honestly.

Considering their fellow inmates won't know their crimes unfortunately they'll be fine. Worst case scenario is their fellow inmates find out that their rapists and shun them.

Most prisoners in there have enough of their own problems to worry about then risk catching another charge for laying out "justice".

Don't know about other states out there, but in cali and many other states, it's mandatory for white/hispanic inmates to show their paperwork (charges, both current and past) within a week of entering the system. They either show their paperwork with charges or PC up....

And yes, they will assault sex offenders and guys who refuse to show their paperwork in a heartbeat...

I was talking about federal pen, isn't that where these two will end up?

I've been told by the few people I know who have done long stretches that they weren't even allowed to have their papers.

I'm not doubting you at all, you obviously know more than me with your 15 years of experience, I'm only going off of what former inmates have told me. But I've been told that inmate violence against sex offenders isn't all that common unless the victim has family or friends inside and that they will be shunned more likely than hurt. also is it true that it's safer to be a rapist inside than a snitch?


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Rapists and pedophiles are the lowest scum in any prison and any country in the world.

Inmate admits disembowelling and murdering child rapist in prison cell attack

GregBell - Somethings not adding up Granted im not a rapist but trying to understand why and how...unless these guys are just retarded why would they rape a woman who knows them (I assume knows their full names) where they like to spend a lot time (brown belts probably working hard to get that bb at Li) how could they possibly BOTH be "down" with raping a chick woman that knows this much about them and think they could get away with it?? Oh and BJJ or not I dont know about other states but here in cali state or fed they would be facked pc or not you can only fight so many and best believe they will keep coming. Back to my point these guys are the dumbest bjj brown belts ever or theres more to the story imo.

DAVID H - PC yards in cali

MMALOGIC - 

NorthFromHere - Have fun getting raped in jail.

 

i BJJ brown belt isnt getting raped in jail... Unless he's facing a gang, the bjj brown belt is the one doing the raping.

 

What kind of MMA Logic is that?

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Authority Figure -

TowerMonkey -  I love how I busted out some fat nasty fake marine and linked his Facebook and the whole thread got deleted but I guess it's cool if it's teh raperape

Which do you consider more serious - someone who fakes being a marine or someone raping a woman? 

The sad thing is people don't just go from zero to rape.  This is just the first time they got caught.

Unseen - 

The sad thing is people don't just go from zero to rape.  This is just the first time they got caught.

MMALOGIC -

NorthFromHere - Have fun getting raped in jail.

 

i BJJ brown belt isnt getting raped in jail... Unless he's facing a gang, the bjj brown belt is the one doing the raping.

 

mrantistupiditay - Here's a fucked up reality worth reflecting on: if these two were UG users, and there's a good chance they were, nothing they'd ever write/post related to their attitudes toward women or rape would've been particularly out of line, or would have stuck out at all, on here.

This is why I cringe when people post pictures of actual people they know, or children, on here, regardless of personal intent in doing so.

However desperate you get for connection with others, if you seek it through this site, you should really look at how fucked up your real personal life has gotten that it's come to that point.

mrantistupiditay - 

HexRei - 

mrantistupiditay - 

HexRei - 

mrantistupiditay - Here's a fucked up reality worth reflecting on: if these two were UG users, and there's a good chance they were, nothing they'd ever write/post related to their attitudes toward women or rape would've been particularly out of line, or would have stuck out at all, on here.

This is why I cringe when people post pictures of actual people they know, or children, on here, regardless of personal intent in doing so.

However desperate you get for connection with others, if you seek it through this site, you should really look at how fucked up your real personal life has gotten that it's come to that point.

Why are you posting this? What does this have to do with anything?

Because none of this happens in a vacuum, and they're not aberrant behaviors that happen just by chance.

Does this event make you consider your own possible avenues for at least saying something that might work against the tide that made these two willing to do something like that, at a minimum, in front of 1 other person?

Feeling bad about what happens to someone else is basically a useless, self-indulgent exercise. At a minimum, speaking about condoning speech/behavior would be the minimum one could do.

This site has a disproportionate population of subnormal/deviant/criminal individuals on it because their point of view's more welcome/normal here than other places.

Be less complicit. That's my complaint.

This is not the thread for you to pursue whatever bizarre agenda you're working toward here. Please take it elsewhere.

You're delusional. You think you're doing something with your feelings and posting about them. None of them have any bearing on the events.

It's much more relevant to ask yourself how this site or social behavior at large in the world (but on this site, because that's where you are) is responsible for it or dovetails with it.

I get it. This site is important to you. You're offended because you feel like my post addressed you. That's a problem with you, not my post.

In other words, go fuck yourself and your kneejerk protectionism of wrong shit in the world, in the guise of some half-assed positivity that does more actual negative work in the world than positive.

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

twizzle97 - I am not sure why so many are focusing on what will happen to the perpetrators. Hopefully, they will get what they deserve, considering what they did was beyond horrid.

I can't stop thinking about this poor woman, who was raped repeatedly by people she trusted. How horrible is that? Her sense of security is gone forever.

Please don't forget the victim of this crime, as it could have been someone you love.