UnderGround Forum >> Matthew Maldanado Accused in Brutal Rape

twizzle97 - I am not sure why so many are focusing on what will happen to the perpetrators. Hopefully, they will get what they deserve, considering what they did was beyond horrid.

I can't stop thinking about this poor woman, who was raped repeatedly by people she trusted. How horrible is that? Her sense of security is gone forever.

Please don't forget the victim of this crime, as it could have been someone you love.

DAVID H - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Yep... I have seen so much violence and/or the aftermath of violence over the years by inmates it's crazy. Things a normal person would never dream of doing.

Murders, rapes, mayhem, slashings, stabbings, curb stomping, crazy riots and so many beatdowns I lost count. And this is just county, not state prison.

^^^ Lord of the Flies...

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

Why do you keep bringing up color? What's the point in that?

Also, if your statements here reflect how you normally process information, you're a terrible academic and at best, a mediocre researcher. Or you work in a field where critical thinking is not required to perform your job.

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

antifret - "Schultz told the court after he was arrested that he lives in a Jiu Jitsu fighter house."

Jiu Jitsu is not a fight.

UGCTT_whittaker_is_the _real_demolition _man -

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

I can't believe what I'm reading here, do you really believe this stuff?

Authority Figure -

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

Why do you keep bringing up color? What's the point in that?

 

Also, if your statements here reflect how you normally process information, you're a terrible academic and at best, a mediocre researcher. Or you work in a field where critical thinking is not required to perform your job.

antifret - 

UGCTT_whittaker_is_the _real_demolition _man -

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

I can't believe what I'm reading here, do you really believe this stuff?

What do you dispute?

UGCTT_chuckles1 -

LastRowCarl - This is to serious im to stoned for this its upsetting

antifret - 

Authority Figure -

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

Why do you keep bringing up color? What's the point in that?

 

Also, if your statements here reflect how you normally process information, you're a terrible academic and at best, a mediocre researcher. Or you work in a field where critical thinking is not required to perform your job.

Not really an academic . Abd in Econ , teach with masters at jc. It's a bit of poetic license the cholo references. Think I said that. You sound like an excellent researcher. Great points you made there. You keep going like that and you'll get into a top ten journal.

cheesesteak -

antifret - 

Authority Figure -

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

Why do you keep bringing up color? What's the point in that?

 

Also, if your statements here reflect how you normally process information, you're a terrible academic and at best, a mediocre researcher. Or you work in a field where critical thinking is not required to perform your job.

Not really an academic . Abd in Econ , teach with masters at jc. It's a bit of poetic license the cholo references. Think I said that. You sound like an excellent researcher. Great points you made there. You keep going like that and you'll get into a top ten journal.

First of all it is that short sightedness that gives the criminal a huge advantage as he simply does not give a fuck and has nothing to lose. Your intelectual who is aspiring to bigger and better things in life wants no part of troublle and has shunded violence away all his life. He would not be able to know how to react in a raw violent situation like the criminal would. And NO I do not think that a librarian would would slit a convicts throat for $1000. I had a friend who was a librarian and this guy would probably cry thinking aout a poor fly that got swatted.

Look my friend I think what you are talking about may be some rough and tumble intellectuals who are out there. Many of which exist in the UFC. But they are not the norm. You seem not to be of the norm as you seem to be an acedemic type who has been in many street fights and might not be scared to lose what you have going for you. You are rare in within that class of person.

Many acedemics and intellectuals I have trained with in the past are good technicians on the mat and critical thinkers. But just about all of them want no part in real world violence. For the most part they would run from a violent situation if they saw the opening and that is being smart! But these thug criminals think differently, they think in a way as you say short sighted...They would rather kill you and bask in the enjoyment of doing so without thinking of what happens to them in the future. The intellectual is to scared of getting in trouble, loosing his job, family etc...You comprende Cholo?

Authority Figure - 

antifret - 

cheesesteak - 

antifret -  Oh come on. How about a 6'8" bjj trained accountant lifer who enjoys hurting people who wants to go into solitary as he can't stand being around all the uneducated jail birds versus his roomie a 150 lb Mexican coke dealer gangster whose never fought one on one. Figure gang member gets choked to death. Killer instinct is possessed by a lot more people than hardened criminals is my point. And martial arts skills do factor in when its one on one.

Yeah...I got the 6'8 accountant in that fight too...I'm just saying a combination of the size, strength, confidence, killer instinct, don't give a fuckness...all adds up.

And I disagree with you that these so called intellectual trained martial artists have the same fight or flight reflexes as a lifetime street criminal that has been in many real altercations...I do agree that they stand a much better chance an can win more so than if not trained, but they really don't posses the kind of mindset that a street criminal would..when it comes to the thought of being in a very violent situation that they may not walk out alive from, they more likely will choose the flight rather than the fight whereas the scumbag criminal may choose the fight rather than the flight...

It's true my friend...Please don't pump your bookworm intellectual ass up as being as violently minded as a life long street criminal.

Granted initially I think you'd be right. Say an accountant was framed for murder ala Shawshank and he had a bjj purple belt. Yeah the black criminal roommate is gonna intimidate him with his irrationality and violent behavior. I don't doubt that. However sociopaths are everywhere. Some of us are just smart enough not to do stupid shit that gets us thrown in jail. They are accountants, college professors, waiters and librarians. Only difference is a criminal is a dumbass who is short sighted. That's his only advantage, he doesn't care about jail or getting killed over something stupid. Here's a scenario. Say the government offered a $1,000 bounty on gang members and guaranteed immunity and anonymity to the hunters. Do you think you'd live to see tomorrow? You think your cholo tattoos would protect you or intimidate anyone? You think some the librarian telling you to be quiet when you have to go there for detention wouldn't knife you in the throat if they knew they wouldn't go to jail for it? Naive to think otherwise. You realize that historically nations have drafted people to fight in wars right? In other words, when Stalin was getting troops to fight the nazis they weren't pro soldiers they were regular ass folks who became deadly killers overnight. Anyone has that in them. Most of us like walking around and not going to jail though so people who don't care like gang members can intimidate us. Obviously in prison gangs and shit come into play.

Why do you keep bringing up color? What's the point in that?

 

Also, if your statements here reflect how you normally process information, you're a terrible academic and at best, a mediocre researcher. Or you work in a field where critical thinking is not required to perform your job.

antifret -  "The fact that if it was legal people would start stabbing every gang member they see. The soldiers also did not become killing machines when drafted and a lot of them were mentally broken by it.

Also the Stanford Experiment was extremely biased and it was the people with the power that turned not the prisoners so it's not really applicable to this."

Not everyone. Just sociopaths, redneck vigilantes , etc. plenty would. Not informed of the details of the Stanford prison experiment . How was it biased? My understanding was the prisoners staged riots. Threw feces and stuff like that. Lots of soldiers refused to kill the enemy I guess according to grossman's research , again like with the bounty on gang members plenty did go from accountant to mass killer overnight. My main point is that anyone (ok plenty of people who aren't jail birds) can commit violent acts given circumstances and there's nothing different about a violent criminal from a sociopath computer programmer (plenty of them around for sure), except the programmer is smart enough to not go to jail over dumb shit.

LastRowCarl - This is to serious im to stoned for this its upsetting

antifret -  One in 25 are sociopaths according to the google search I just did. The intersection of those with violent people who have enough intelligence and impulse control to not already be in jail. Guessing 1 in a 100 ish. That's still a fuck ton of people.

UGCTT_whittaker_is_the _real_demolition _man - 

antifret -  One in 25 are sociopaths according to the google search I just did. The intersection of those with violent people who have enough intelligence and impulse control to not already be in jail. Guessing 1 in a 100 ish. That's still a fuck ton of people.

Apparently it's more like 1 out of 100 people are sociopaths according to a survey of 10,000 people and even if that's true the chances of those people being violent is even less.

LOL Maldonado has lost 32 "Likes" today.