UnderGround Forum >> Matthew Maldanado Accused in Brutal Rape
| 1/10/13 2:11 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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er095 - Me a friend and cuz have run a train on a girl and i was extra nice and cool with the girl right after because ive heard stories of guys being accused of rape in these situatiations. I argued with my cuz because he was acting like a dick treating her like a low life hoe after... Looks like these two guys are guilty and if so ,wish they would be castrated. Lloyd not so cut and dry. So lets not jump to conclusions. Anyone of us that lived a promiscuous lifestyle could of been accuses of rape, and if you were innocent you still gotta live with that stigma for life. If lloyd was guilty F him Dude, the other participants were convicted by a jury. He "got off" on the technicality that he couldn't, supposedly. Would be interesting to read the trial transcript, but it sounds as though the court only retains them for ten years and they aren't available. |
| 1/10/13 2:18 PM | |
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er095
Member Since: 8/14/03 Posts: 2302 |
I wish i could read the transcript also. Im no lawyer but how do you get off because you couldnt get it up ? You should still be getting charged with something right ? Unless he copped to that to get off. Sounds strange
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| 1/10/13 2:20 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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Billy Joe Rottoncrotch - Was Lloyd Irvin alleged to have been involved in the rape? Lloyd was allegedly involved in a separate incident that went to trial in 1990. |
| 1/10/13 2:21 PM | |
BradGluckman
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Billy Joe Rottoncrotch - Was Lloyd Irvin alleged to have been involved in the rape?
Not this one but was but it has come to light that he was involved in a gang rape 20 years ago that went to trial
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| 1/10/13 2:27 PM | |
mikerobmma
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Just read the LI story. Shit just got real.
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| 1/10/13 2:33 PM | |
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Nucky
Member Since: 11/14/12 Posts: 826 |
Little Nicky boys gonna be grabbing his ankles and spelling RUN out loud as they pass him around for a pack of cigarettes. |
| 1/10/13 2:33 PM | |
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dermotfix
Member Since: 7/23/09 Posts: 1457 |
Who the heck knew about this LI story from when he was 20? Why has it only come to the fore now?
To me, unless it is proven it was another LI jr who got off 'cos he didn't get it up, this will be AIDS to his career as a trainer. I can't see him cornering anyone in the octagon after this old case blew up, never mind his association with the 2 fuckers in this new case.
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| 1/10/13 2:33 PM | |
2JupitersTooMany
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Billy Joe Rottoncrotch -2JupitersTooMany -Billy Joe Rottoncrotch - Was Lloyd Irvin alleged to have been involved in the rape? Read the article: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/10/3856994/team-lloyd-irvin-rape-case http://articles.dailypress.com/1990-04-25/news/9004250070_1_third-juror-irvin-trial
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| 1/10/13 2:34 PM | |
JimmersonzGlove
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Wack |
| 1/10/13 2:37 PM | |
burner22
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YVES JOCKSTRAP - Fuck Lloyd Irvin.This
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| 1/10/13 2:41 PM | |
6ULDV8
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Member Since: 1/1/01 Posts: 13956 |
Weird thing is its the same MO. The girl gets wasted and then wrecked by the boys.
This will haunt him badly. |
| 1/10/13 3:06 PM | |
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BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat
Member Since: 9/26/08 Posts: 4577 |
I bet the victim feels so comfortable knowing Llyods past now.The way he rushed to be by her side. |
| 1/10/13 3:09 PM | |
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HexRei
Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 11744 |
2JupitersTooMany -Billy Joe Rottoncrotch -2JupitersTooMany -Billy Joe Rottoncrotch - Was Lloyd Irvin alleged to have been involved in the rape? Can someone with an account copy and paste it? It's trying to make me sign in. |
| 1/10/13 3:13 PM | |
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BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat
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When the story of two male Lloyd Irvin students being charged with the rape of a female student came out yesterday, news reports of 1989 gang rape case involving a Lloyd E. Irvin, Jr. also surfaced. The charge was that a 17 year old woman went out to dinner with a group of male college students, went back to their apartment, had a few drinks and then was raped by "at least seven men." The men claimed that the woman was a willing participant in the incident. Here are some of the details via the Daily Press: The fates of two men charged in the alleged gang rape of a 17-year-old Hampton University student last fall will not be determined until at least Monday. Circuit Judge Robert W. Curran dismissed a jury of six men and six women at 7 p.m. Friday after they deliberated about four hours on whether Terrence C. Gatling, 21, and Lloyd E. Irvin Jr., 20, are guilty of rape. Gatling, who was a junior at HU at the time of the incident, and Irvin, who was a junior at Bowie State University in Maryland, are charged with raping an HU student who had been on campus about six weeks. Gatling also is charged with sodomy. ... Irvin said that having sex with a "freak" was not one of his best ideas of fun, but he did not oppose it. Irvin wasn't convicted because he was "impotent" according to a follow-up Daily Press article: On that evening a 17-year-old girl agreed to go to dinner with a group of male college students she barely knew. Then she agreed to go to an apartment with them for a party. Somewhere along the line she drank some booze. By the end of the night, at least seven men had had sex with her. Neither Gatling, who is 21, nor Irvin, who is 20, tried to talk any of them out of it. Instead, they joined in. Or tried. Irvin was saved by the fact that the jury believed he was impotent when it was his turn. The article goes on to say that Irvin testified that Irvin "wanted to have intercourse with her but couldn't." In the end the accusation that Gatling held her down while Irvin had sex with her led to Gatling only being convicted of forcing the woman to perform oral sex, since the jury believed the story that Irvin was, as the paper put it, impotent. Lloyd Irvin the MMA trainer's full name is Lloyd Emory Irvin, Jr. He was born May 17, 1969 which would have made him 20-years-old at the time of the incident and he did, in fact, attend Bowie State University. He has trained such notable UFC stars such as Brandon Vera, Mike Easton, Phil Davis and bantamweight champion Dominick Cruz. In 1991 there were two more men involved in the same gang rape who were convicted. Obviously the charges in this 1989 case were of a very serious nature and, should it turn out that this is the same Lloyd Irvin it may raise questions about public disclosure (even though not found guilty) as he now teaches "rape prevention seminars," such as the one currently scheduled for February 2. Efforts to verify the identity of the accused have been unsuccessful. The Newport News police department, as well as the Courthouse, were unable to verify that these are the same Lloyd E Irvin Jr. They do not have records from more than ten years ago on file at the courthouse, and the police have limited data in their records and can only verify an arrest, not the extent of the charges. Bowie State University was unable to confirm if there was only one student by the name of Lloyd E. Irvin Jr. who attended the school in 1989, because they can not give out those details. Attempts to reach Irvin via phone or Facebook were unsuccessful. The person who answered the phone at his gym said he was unavailable and a request for a return phone call has gone unanswered, while Facebook messages were not returned. It appears he has deactivated his personal and business Facebook accounts since that communication was sent. Prior to the closing of his Facebook page, Irvin had posted this update about the current charges involving his students: There has been a horrible alleged incident that occurred that involved 3 people on my comp team. This is a legal matter that I am not authorized to speak on and has nothing to do with me personally. However, for you idiotic people who come on my page to attack me for the actions of two grown men, let me make something very clear to you: I don’t care if you hate me, my marketing, my team or anything I do, but let’s not lose sight of the REAL issue here. A young lady was allegedly harmed. Someone who is a friend, a student of mine and who knows she has my full support during this difficult time. This is not a laughing matter or a time to try and turn your personal dislike for me or my team into an irrelevant story.The focus should be on the well-being of this young lady. Do not take away from the severity of these charges by trying to make it about me. This could be any one of our mother’s, sisters or daughters and I take this very seriously For the record I was just with this young lady this morning and she is looking forward to working towards her goal of becoming a bjj world champion. Anyone that attempts to come on my page and attack me during this serious time is beyond sick! Update: Lloyd's Facebook page is once again active, though yesterday's post about the alleged incident with his students appears to have been removed. Update 2: Some people have been asking about the situation on the Facebook page, but those questions are being deleted. Before: Irvin_asked_medium After (notice that the comment has been removed): Lloyd_after_medium 352 Comments In This Storystream Two Lloyd Irvin Martial Arts School students arrested 11:03a - 352 Case involving students revives interest in old rape case possibly involving Lloyd Irvin 12:26a - 312 Two Lloyd Irvin Martial Arts School students arrested for rape Full Stream In This Article Topics lloyd irvin mma rape case |
| 1/10/13 3:15 PM | |
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BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat
Member Since: 9/26/08 Posts: 4580 |
Loyd "flop n stop" Irvin? or is it too soon? |
| 1/10/13 3:28 PM | |
YVES JOCKSTRAP
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Again, fuck Lloyd Irvin
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| 1/10/13 3:30 PM | |
uberpinscher
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So yesterday when this broke I did what any investigative techsavvy person would do and loaded up his FB (which a lot of people here have done). Anyways - so I clicked into his photos and there was one with the Schultz kid with a girl at a pub - she looked like a server maybe and the caption was something to the effect of with the ____ whore or ____ slut or something along those lines. I went back today to reconfirm/consider putting it here so that his shitty attitude and warped sense of women could be seen by all. Well now its not there or at least I couldn't find it public. I am pretty sure it was one of those "someone elses photo" with him tagged in it. The thing that really made it stand out is how the girl clearly or seemingly didnt know them all that well (just body language, her "work" outfit, no name except for "insert company name" slut. These warped fucks are time bombs and only as normal or decent or good as their surroundings force them to be. anyone else see it? |
| 1/10/13 3:35 PM | |
fryingarmbar
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Member Since: 12/24/10 Posts: 761 |
Ya Mon - Not liking or respecting women does not lead to rape It doesn't help. |
| 1/10/13 3:38 PM | |
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Bearded Collie Herds Orca
Member Since: 1/26/12 Posts: 68 |
Ya Mon - Not liking or respecting women does not lead to rape It is necessary but not sufficient. No one with a healthy perspective regarding women commits rape, by definition. |
| 1/10/13 3:39 PM | |
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HexRei
Member Since: 6/4/07 Posts: 11747 |
uberpinscher - So yesterday when this broke I did what any investigative techsavvy person would do and loaded up his FB (which a lot of people here have done). I think you might be reading too much into a single photo. Not to mention that if it was really someone else's photo that he was just tagged in, the caption wouldn't have been written by him. |
| 1/10/13 3:46 PM | |
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defendbrooklyn
Member Since: 4/9/12 Posts: 118 |
Now THATS some bjj bitchassness.
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| 1/10/13 3:55 PM | |
JustPeed
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Member Since: 12/20/09 Posts: 11262 |
Sad and heinous situation. The whole preying on obviously too drunk girls is pathetic too. Now with the old Irvin case coming out, things are set to get real bad for Irvin business. Sad story.
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| 1/10/13 4:01 PM | |
WoodenPupa
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Member Since: 7/24/02 Posts: 7313 |
2JupitersTooMany -er095 - Me a friend and cuz have run a train on a girl and i was extra nice and cool with the girl right after because ive heard stories of guys being accused of rape in these situatiations. I argued with my cuz because he was acting like a dick treating her like a low life hoe after... Looks like these two guys are guilty and if so ,wish they would be castrated. Lloyd not so cut and dry. So lets not jump to conclusions. Anyone of us that lived a promiscuous lifestyle could of been accuses of rape, and if you were innocent you still gotta live with that stigma for life. If lloyd was guilty F him Are transcripts something available to the public? For a price, etc? |
| 1/10/13 4:02 PM | |
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BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat
Member Since: 9/26/08 Posts: 4583 |
Lloyd Irvin should make a statement. The longer he hides his past, the worse this gets
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| 1/10/13 4:28 PM | |
cheesesteak
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Member Since: 11/23/02 Posts: 3522 |
Wes_Mantooth -BJ bashed into McDs mincemeat - Lloyd Irvin should make a statement. Lloyd is busy throwing up on his $400 italian shoes at the moment..... |
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