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1/11/13 8:26 AM

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Caught_clean - I am all for TRT, its 2013 we have the medicine to make us stronger, and healthier. That said it can be easily abused.

Few things that are funny are the people who shit on it and think "TRT" is a substance, or the other people who say its not steroids. Testosterone is the king of steroids, its also natural in human beings, yes even females has some. I love the "lol look at them wasting away! Poor souls" shit because the whole fucking point is they are taking the stuff so they don't fucking look and feel like shit (not saying some aren't abusing).

Fighters should be able to use meth with your reasoning. Why not bath salts? Now that would be a fight; Paul Harris chewing some guys face off. Phone Post

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Lazer MMA Member Since: 4/24/12 Posts: 5681	Well YEA UG! Lets do another TRT thread to shit on the users, BTW WTF IS Page and all the rest BTW? Let's also ignore that one fighter after another is coming forward saying 80 percent of the UFC roster is on 'the real juice' (the last one being Stun Gun) and forget about all the fighters that got popped too for using the good shit! The UG LMFAO You have ignored this user.

1/11/13 8:34 AM

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irishrottie -
GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

naive. people can abuse the shit out of it.

True, but we're told time and again BY FIGHTERS that MOST fighters are abusing much stronger shit (see my post above).

Random testing across the board is the only solution to the issue. I'd argue for a max TE ratio of 3.5:1 as well max at any point (just to cover some 'natural" freaks, 3.5 is plenty).

Ignorant as fuck to single out TRT users and more so as it's legal.

1/11/13 10:09 AM

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Nate 'Rock' Quarry - TRT IS testosterone. Hence, the first T. Testosterone IS a steroid.
It CAN increase your text level to 10X normal if you take enough of it.
It sure can raise your testosterone limits sky high if you take enough.

This!

I'll never understand how people can say that taking testosterone, even in small doses as with TRT, to bring their test up to levels higher than those of their all-natural counterparts is ethically/legally ok. We all know that it is technically legal under certain guidelines, I think that some of us just question why you're legally allowed to cheat in moderation.

If your body is no longer test at the same level it did when you were 21 it's not called a sickness... It's called getting old. Supplementing with added synthetic test is roiding, plain and simple.

There are many doctors who now call "getting old" an illness and are working to treat it as such

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whoabro Member Since: 1/22/07 Posts: 8898	TRT-level doses dont do shit really (150-300mg a week). Nfw thats what any of these guys are actually running. You have ignored this user.

1/11/13 10:22 AM

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"Fighters say that most fighters are using" isn't a valid argument. It's someone guessing how many fighters are using with no real evidence to back it up. Stop being so big of a dick-rider that you're willing to defend guys who are cheating in a combat sport. This isn't baseball. This is a sport where you can potentially kill your opponent. Cheating should not be tolerated. I don't care if a fighter guesses that ALL fighters are using. There is no excuse. As far as TRT goes, it's legal but it's a steroid. If you take enough it, you're testosterone levels will rise above the accepted range, and that's cheating. Phone Post

1/11/13 10:44 AM

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SamboSlim187 - "Fighters say that most fighters are using" isn't a valid argument. It's someone guessing how many fighters are using with no real evidence to back it up. Stop being so big of a dick-rider that you're willing to defend guys who are cheating in a combat sport. This isn't baseball. This is a sport where you can potentially kill your opponent. Cheating should not be tolerated. I don't care if a fighter guesses that ALL fighters are using. There is no excuse. As far as TRT goes, it's legal but it's a steroid. If you take enough it, you're testosterone levels will rise above the accepted range, and that's cheating.

WTF do you do bro read few words and quit? LMFAO

"Random testing across the board is the only solution to the issue. I'd argue for a max TE ratio of 3.5:1 as well max at any point (just to cover some 'natural" freaks, 3.5 is plenty).

Ignorant as fuck to single out TRT users and more so as it's legal."

Moreover, fighters in the UFC know fighters in the UFC! WTF should we not believe them when they supply the same data? HTF do you know what they can prove if they were a DA?

WTF are you talking about in all here? Did you sleep last night?

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1/11/13 11:52 AM

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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

The entire process of undergoing TRT is to use the father of all anabolic steroids, synthetic testosterone, so I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do".
Meaning if u only take what u r supposed to it will only make ur levels normal.

Reread my comment and his quote.

1/11/13 12:14 PM

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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.
Shut up, you logic user.

That's flawed logic. In your 30's your testosterone naturally decreases. You take trt to get your testosterone to a higher lever when you were younger. You should've left it at that. You can't say it doesn't bring your testosterone to above natural levels because it obviously does. If you're 35 you don't naturally have the testosterone of a 23 year old. Taking a substance to get it there means you are more above natural levels for your age. Logic...how does it work? Phone Post

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1/11/13 1:07 PM

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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

So, Henderson et al are trying to find a normal level.......which is their level without their legal steroids. It's cheating by any other name. Phone Post

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orcus Member Since: 8/1/03 Posts: 75320	Beggsie - If your testosterone levels are lowering naturally, shouldn't that be the time you should be retiring? You could. You could also retire when you tear a muscle or blow out your knee or whatever...or you could treat the problem medically and legally. You have ignored this user.

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1/11/13 2:32 PM

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DonFreedomFrye -
GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

The entire process of undergoing TRT is to use the father of all anabolic steroids, synthetic testosterone, so I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do".

All steroids are a dirivitive and structurally similar to testosterone. Dumb ass. If Hendo for exams had levels 10x a normal test range, he would be popped and TRT would not be a valid excuse.

Why would someone abuse TRT? It doesn't make sense because then you would just shoot mad roids anyways.

You can't abuse TRT, your doctor regulates levels so you won't get busted for super high test levels.

Too many people on this site know nothing about everything.

Again... Shut up you logic user. Phone Post

1/11/13 2:34 PM

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DonFreedomFrye 340 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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GableGrip -
DonFreedomFrye -
GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

The entire process of undergoing TRT is to use the father of all anabolic steroids, synthetic testosterone, so I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do".

All steroids are a dirivitive and structurally similar to testosterone. Dumb ass. If Hendo for exams had levels 10x a normal test range, he would be popped and TRT would not be a valid excuse.

Why would someone abuse TRT? It doesn't make sense because then you would just shoot mad roids anyways.

You can't abuse TRT, your doctor regulates levels so you won't get busted for super high test levels.

Too many people on this site know nothing about everything.

My point is that you said "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do" when everyone who undergoes TRT uses the anabolic steroid, synthetic testosterone.

Do you not understand how completely clueless that comment is?

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