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1/11/13 2:37 PM
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Nate 'Rock' Quarry - TRT IS testosterone. Hence, the first T. Testosterone IS a steroid.
It CAN increase your text level to 10X normal if you take enough of it.
It sure can raise your testosterone limits sky high if you take enough.

This.

The "acceptable" range the ACs allow isn't exactly in the average range (it's the upper extreme of the population) and allows users a significant advantage. And anyone could adjust dosing during training from skyhigh levels so their levels meet the already advantageous range the AC require by fight time.

Using TRT in this era with its ridiculous standards and lack of a logical testing protocol means a big ole asterisk next to users' names and accomplishments.

agreed.

beside, how often have these guys had their T levels checked throughout their lives? just because they test low now, doesn't neccessarily mean they were ever sky-high to begin with.... this is one of the medical arguments against TRT/HRT....unless you know the starting levels, why do you think high levels now are the correct levels?
1/11/13 2:48 PM
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UGCTT_whittaker_is_the _real_demolition _man 21 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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If people with low testosterone are allowed to use it to get up to maximum levels then all fighters should be allowed to use it to get up to maximum levels.
1/11/13 3:06 PM
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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

The entire process of undergoing TRT is to use the father of all anabolic steroids, synthetic testosterone, so I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do".

All steroids are a dirivitive and structurally similar to testosterone. Dumb ass. If Hendo for exams had levels 10x a normal test range, he would be popped and TRT would not be a valid excuse.

Why would someone abuse TRT? It doesn't make sense because then you would just shoot mad roids anyways.

You can't abuse TRT, your doctor regulates levels so you won't get busted for super high test levels.

Too many people on this site know nothing about everything.
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Great point dumb ass.

I'm so glad your so informative and can understand things.


It seem that YOU'RE the one who is having a hard time understanding things. The guy you just called a "dumb ass" was agreeing with you.
1/11/13 3:11 PM
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FYI:

The reason these guys need TRT to begin with is because of previous steroid/Testosterone use. their bodies' natural testosterone factory is shut down.

It's ironic when you have to use steroids to treat the side effects of using steroids.
1/11/13 3:16 PM
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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

And of course, no one would dream of using large amounts of testosterone during most of the year and then tapering off before a competition.

I mean, that would give them the benefits of steroid use while letting them claim they're simply on TRT.


And that would be wrong. So clearly, no one is doing that.
1/11/13 8:59 PM
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If Pride was the Wild West,

The current UFC is...
1/11/13 9:06 PM
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007 - FYI:

The reason these guys need TRT to begin with is because of previous steroid/Testosterone use. their bodies' natural testosterone factory is shut down.

It's ironic when you have to use steroids to treat the side effects of using steroids.
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1/12/13 10:42 AM
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All entertaining fighters is my book. What is the problem exactly?

1/12/13 11:03 AM
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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

And of course, no one would dream of using large amounts of testosterone during most of the year and then tapering off before a competition.

I mean, that would give them the benefits of steroid use while letting them claim they're simply on TRT.


And that would be wrong. So clearly, no one is doing that.
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1/12/13 11:45 AM
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Randy Couture pioneered this stuff.
1/12/13 11:48 AM
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Let's stop talking shit about Pride being full of roiders.

1/12/13 12:06 PM
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I don't mind TRT since it allows some fighters to fight for longer. Are any of the current champs on TRT? I think the issue is a little overblown, steroids do not equal instant win.
1/12/13 12:35 PM
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To deny older fighters a supplement is devolution. Phone Post
1/12/13 12:44 PM
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Barbalos - I don't mind TRT since it allows some fighters to fight for longer. Are any of the current champs on TRT? I think the issue is a little overblown, steroids do not equal instant win.

i don't think any of the title holders are, but several contenders are (Hendo, Sonnen)...
1/12/13 3:25 PM
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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

And of course, no one would dream of using large amounts of testosterone during most of the year and then tapering off before a competition.

I mean, that would give them the benefits of steroid use while letting them claim they're simply on TRT.


And that would be wrong. So clearly, no one is doing that.

Great point.

This is exactly what many, if not all, are doing.
1/12/13 5:01 PM
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Martinez! - 
GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

And of course, no one would dream of using large amounts of testosterone during most of the year and then tapering off before a competition.

I mean, that would give them the benefits of steroid use while letting them claim they're simply on TRT.


And that would be wrong. So clearly, no one is doing that.

Great point.

This is exactly what many, if not all, are doing.
Its exactly what theyre doing. Like i said, TRT-level doses of test are all but useless for athletes. They are definitely blasting in between fights, then tapering off and cruising on TRT Phone Post
1/12/13 5:43 PM
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GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

And of course, no one would dream of using large amounts of testosterone during most of the year and then tapering off before a competition.

I mean, that would give them the benefits of steroid use while letting them claim they're simply on TRT.


And that would be wrong. So clearly, no one is doing that.

Great point.

This is exactly what many, if not all, are doing.
Its exactly what theyre doing. Like i said, TRT-level doses of test are all but useless for athletes. They are definitely blasting in between fights, then tapering off and cruising on TRT Phone Post


Sure and the one fighter after another coming forward saying 80 percent of the entire roster is on the real juice "blasting in between fights" you just ignore (the last one being Stun Gun). Oh the ironing

DERP

Not only that we have more then just your say so on THAT matter, we have many fighters.
1/12/13 5:50 PM
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Im talking about their specific drug protocol, not just that they are using. Btw i guarantee i know a lot more about AAS than almost any fighter. Phone Post
1/12/13 9:53 PM
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Should be noted not one champion in the UFC is on TRT and has never failed a drug test.

I have a really strong feeling that silva is on it, he had less then stellar performances against Maia and sonnen then came back against belfort and looked heaps more ripped, and he's been performing the best he ever has now at 38, plus in that all access show there was all that trt stuff in the background Phone Post

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