UnderGround Forum >> There is no way Cormier defeats Jon Jones.

cyberc92 - Cormier has power on his feet and will be near impossible to take down. This will be a tough fight for Jones. Jones will have to be concerned with the takedown which will lead to him eating some strikes on the feet.

Cormier closes distance well and I think he will be able to get some strikes off. Cormier is deceptively strong and when he wants to get you to the mat he will get you to the mat. It is a very interesting match up.

cyberc92 - Cormier has power on his feet and will be near impossible to take down. This will be a tough fight for Jones. Jones will have to be concerned with the takedown which will lead to him eating some strikes on the feet.

Cormier closes distance well and I think he will be able to get some strikes off. Cormier is deceptively strong and when he wants to get you to the mat he will get you to the mat. It is a very interesting match up.

I second this; its a very interesting style match up and I really think it'll come down to who executes their gameplan more efficiently.

ausgepicht - 

OP is correct. His short reach and 5'10" height is what caused him to lose to the 270# Bigfoot and pioneer, legend and 260# Barnett. MMA comes down to the length of your arm and how tall you are. It's simple really. That's why Wes Sims is one of the PFP greats and no one can hit Stefan Struve. That fight where the shorter armed and shorter Roy Nelson couldn't land anything is an example that is hard to argue with.

This is a tall man's sport. recognize!

ausgepicht -

OP is correct. His short reach and 5'10" height is what caused him to lose to the 270# Bigfoot and pioneer, legend and 260# Barnett. MMA comes down to the length of your arm and how tall you are. It's simple really. That's why Wes Sims is one of the PFP greats and no one can hit Stefan Struve. That fight where the shorter armed and shorter Roy Nelson couldn't land anything is an example that is hard to argue with.

This is a tall man's sport. recognize!

BrCutter - 

ausgepicht -

OP is correct. His short reach and 5'10" height is what caused him to lose to the 270# Bigfoot and pioneer, legend and 260# Barnett. MMA comes down to the length of your arm and how tall you are. It's simple really. That's why Wes Sims is one of the PFP greats and no one can hit Stefan Struve. That fight where the shorter armed and shorter Roy Nelson couldn't land anything is an example that is hard to argue with.

This is a tall man's sport. recognize!

Vtfu!

Truth. And a vote up.

wiggum - 

mose - or UFC champion Kevin Jackson.

The point is that DC clearly has the physical traits to hang at the top of the heap of combat sports.

mose - 

wiggum - 

mose - or UFC champion Kevin Jackson.

The point is that DC clearly has the physical traits to hang at the top of the heap of combat sports.

No, the point is that success in wrestling doesn't translate to success in mma in any very predictable way. So listing a bunch of Cormier's wrestling accomplishments means just slightly more than nothing when it comes to MMA.

When it comes to the top of the heap in MMA, I, and many others, feel that Cormier's physical traits will be a limiting factor.

Just go watch the Barnett fight and watch how he bitch tosses him around WWE style.  No reason to think he couldn't do that to Jones should he get ahold of him.  DC is fast with power in his hands and his takedowns are effortless.  Jones is an all around monster.  It would be a great fight and hard to predict how it would go especially since both guys seem comfortable fighting in any position.  This fight must happen, imo.

mose - 

wiggum - 

mose - or UFC champion Kevin Jackson.

The point is that DC clearly has the physical traits to hang at the top of the heap of combat sports.

No, the point is that success in wrestling doesn't translate to success in mma in any very predictable way. So listing a bunch of Cormier's wrestling accomplishments means just slightly more than nothing when it comes to MMA.

When it comes to the top of the heap in MMA, I, and many others, feel that Cormier's physical traits will be a limiting factor.

darcechoke -  Cormier is fast as a hw. He will not have a speed advantage at lhw. Jones is far too athletic. DC will not be able to get close enough to jones. It's not a wrestling match. DC beat Barnett, but Barnett is not even on the same planet as jones as far as striking or athleticism. Not even close. Jones by a landslide!

Holy fuckin herpa derp Batman!

SKARHEAD - Cormier has quite a bit of fat on him, but you better believe that with the weight cut he will lose some muscle as well...He'll likely be smaller than Rashad when he's done getting down to 205lbs and will lose a fair amount of strength and power too. JBJ beats him IMO....We'll see

A lot of people on this thread who don't understand who or what Josh Barnett is capable of saying Cormier would have trouble in the top three @ HW...............

ausgepicht - 

wiggum - 

mose - or UFC champion Kevin Jackson.

The point is that DC clearly has the physical traits to hang at the top of the heap of combat sports.

Lot of haterade on this thread, probably bigotry as well, though bigots hide it as much as they can so there is no way of telling. Best not to waste your time. Anyone who doesn't think a two time Olympian and someone with the credentials that Cormier has.....who is also the coach and training partner of the current Heavyweight world champion, has no way of winning, and has no physical traits because he is 5'10" clearly is following a sport that is too complex for them to be following. Probably pissed that Toughman was discontinued.