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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

1/16/13 12:14 AM
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johnonguitar7 -  I'm gonna keep saying it:

This thread has turned into bullshit and is like picking on a kid at school. You know the one that tells a load of lies and then you find out years later that his dad was abusing him?


Grow the fuck up you lot Phone Post

so now you are trying to compare him to a child suffering physical abuse? That's a goddamn stretch
You are purposely misinterpreting my words. Thats the type of thing I expect from a bitchy little wife. Get the fuck out my face Phone Post

Or maybe you should get your pink iphone out of your face and stop making a goddamn ass out of yourself, moron.
What sort of patter is that? I swear to got you Americans are all fucking thick as shit. See if you were here right now I'd ram my "pink" whatever the fuck you're talking about so far up your arse the surgeon would need scooba gear to remove it. Now like I said before, get the fuck out of my face you little cunt Phone Post

And the highlight of your hilariously overreactive post was to call me a wife (I'm guessing that means you're more into husbands?) so no, I'm afraid you are the one that can go fuck off.
Seriously wee man, why don't you go back to eating McDonald's and fucking your sisters or whatever it is you lot do over there before I knock your teeth out of your head and make your maw suck my end Phone Post
In his defense, his sisters are hawt & mcgriddles are pretty delicious. Phone Post
1/16/13 12:26 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

LOL!! Phone Post
1/16/13 12:53 AM
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AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be. Phone Post

go on...
1/16/13 2:48 AM
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I think this guy has mental issues.

Stop picking on the handicapped IMO.

Does it make one feel better to insult someone with mental disability? Its just not right here with this guy. Phone Post
1/16/13 3:22 AM
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1/16/13 3:25 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

Buuuuuuurn

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1/16/13 3:45 AM
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1/16/13 3:46 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


I agree
1/16/13 3:57 AM
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that crazy story about him working with the FBI and being a fugitive after being falsely charged by an organized crime syndicate... sounds like a Law & Order episode written by a 10 year old with downs
1/16/13 6:55 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


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1/16/13 7:30 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


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1/16/13 7:46 AM
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bbomber -

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

Queue the Nick Ring gif... Oh no he didn't! Phone Post
1/16/13 8:12 AM
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bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


Your right about 1 thing... these threads always go the same way... someone finds a fraud, dumbass or fake, and there is a quick "investigation", its usually fairly easy to prove they are not legit, and along the way a bunch of shit comes to light that shows us they are actually nuts...

Then a bunch of people will come along and "attack" the folks in the thread, since I am often involved, I'm a nice big target for them, and once one talks some shit, usually a few others will pile on (you mentioned mob mentality...)

Meanwhile none of us are doing shit... people act like something is being 'done" to this guy... I posted the things he had made publicly available on the internet. After some other kid got into his email, I posted a few funny things... After he demanded i fight him I said, "well, it sounds unlikely and silly, but sure...why not?"

Other than that, what is being done? Is he over in the corner of the room and we are all standing around him pointing and kicking him?

If he does not like this thread he can no read it...

I didn't put up a giant billboard on his street...

NO website, no ads in the paper...

There is no need for anything more, we see he does not have a real school, no students he could defraud or harm...

There is now a record of it for anyone searching for it...

But you act like there is some great terrible tragedy in all this... we are "picking on the retarded kid"

People make him out to be some victim...

And then the shit like I "get off on these threads so much", lol at your suggestion.

I cant point to dozens and dozens of occasions where I have said the same thing... this is just some entertainment. I'm not over here in a operations center with a staff of people all angry and attacking these guys 24/7... I jump in every now and then and crack a joke... I did a few google searches and posted a screen cap... it took seconds out of my day. I had a few laughs, made a few other people laugh, and it ended there.

The only people this is "real" to are the white nights and the nutjob in question.

Everyone else had some laughs ON THE INTERNET, and moved on...no one is doing shit to "ruin his life"

So again, lol at the FEW of you who love to pile on when 1 guy says something that attacks me... All of you came into the thread and read it for the same reason... you all stare at car wrecks for the same reasons. Thats what this guy is, a car wreck. Hate me if you want, I dont give a fuck, but lol at you thinking you have psycho analysed my reasons for laughing at a fake and come up with anything intelligent.

I'll make it easy for you, these guys are funny, and I like a good laugh.
1/16/13 8:14 AM
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VU for bbomber.  Well put.

1/16/13 8:17 AM
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MMaguy will agree to fight him, then come back with a story about his "friend" the prison guard saying he has AIDS and is too scared to get his blood on him, lol.

Mmaguy also got busted in a previous fake fighter thread by a real green name for having a fake fight record, lol.
1/16/13 8:26 AM
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^ yea... thats it,lol
1/16/13 8:26 AM
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Im confused but im sooo in Phone Post
1/16/13 8:28 AM
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AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be. Phone Post

go on...
One I was assuming was maybe, possibly johnoguitar7 simply by some of his rebuttals seems to be Sensi Claw esq. but I seem to have assumed wrong. Back to lurking hoping the real Sensei will show up. Phone Post
1/16/13 8:43 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


Your right about 1 thing... these threads always go the same way... someone finds a fraud, dumbass or fake, and there is a quick "investigation", its usually fairly easy to prove they are not legit, and along the way a bunch of shit comes to light that shows us they are actually nuts...

Then a bunch of people will come along and "attack" the folks in the thread, since I am often involved, I'm a nice big target for them, and once one talks some shit, usually a few others will pile on (you mentioned mob mentality...)

Meanwhile none of us are doing shit... people act like something is being 'done" to this guy... I posted the things he had made publicly available on the internet. After some other kid got into his email, I posted a few funny things... After he demanded i fight him I said, "well, it sounds unlikely and silly, but sure...why not?"

Other than that, what is being done? Is he over in the corner of the room and we are all standing around him pointing and kicking him?

If he does not like this thread he can no read it...

I didn't put up a giant billboard on his street...

NO website, no ads in the paper...

There is no need for anything more, we see he does not have a real school, no students he could defraud or harm...

There is now a record of it for anyone searching for it...

But you act like there is some great terrible tragedy in all this... we are "picking on the retarded kid"

People make him out to be some victim...

And then the shit like I "get off on these threads so much", lol at your suggestion.

I cant point to dozens and dozens of occasions where I have said the same thing... this is just some entertainment. I'm not over here in a operations center with a staff of people all angry and attacking these guys 24/7... I jump in every now and then and crack a joke... I did a few google searches and posted a screen cap... it took seconds out of my day. I had a few laughs, made a few other people laugh, and it ended there.

The only people this is "real" to are the white nights and the nutjob in question.

Everyone else had some laughs ON THE INTERNET, and moved on...no one is doing shit to "ruin his life"

So again, lol at the FEW of you who love to pile on when 1 guy says something that attacks me... All of you came into the thread and read it for the same reason... you all stare at car wrecks for the same reasons. Thats what this guy is, a car wreck. Hate me if you want, I dont give a fuck, but lol at you thinking you have psycho analysed my reasons for laughing at a fake and come up with anything intelligent.

I'll make it easy for you, these guys are funny, and I like a good laugh.

bottom line is people dont belong claiming to be something they arent and even worse would be charging $ for it.

i was in a bar the other day and someone introduced me to someone and said "this guy is a ufc fighter"...i immediately corrected them in saying i am not i am only a BB in bjj and have trained and cornered ufc fighters.
1/16/13 8:57 AM
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AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be. Phone Post

go on...
One I was assuming was maybe, possibly johnoguitar7 simply by some of his rebuttals seems to be Sensi Claw esq. but I seem to have assumed wrong. Back to lurking hoping the real Sensei will show up. Phone Post
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


What are you fucking Inspector Cludumbo or something? Phone Post
1/16/13 9:22 AM
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AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be. Phone Post

go on...
One I was assuming was maybe, possibly johnoguitar7 simply by some of his rebuttals seems to be Sensi Claw esq. but I seem to have assumed wrong. Back to lurking hoping the real Sensei will show up. Phone Post
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


What are you fucking Inspector Cludumbo or something? Phone Post
Yup exactly. Phone Post
1/16/13 10:30 AM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


Your right about 1 thing... these threads always go the same way... someone finds a fraud, dumbass or fake, and there is a quick "investigation", its usually fairly easy to prove they are not legit, and along the way a bunch of shit comes to light that shows us they are actually nuts...

Then a bunch of people will come along and "attack" the folks in the thread, since I am often involved, I'm a nice big target for them, and once one talks some shit, usually a few others will pile on (you mentioned mob mentality...)

Meanwhile none of us are doing shit... people act like something is being 'done" to this guy... I posted the things he had made publicly available on the internet. After some other kid got into his email, I posted a few funny things... After he demanded i fight him I said, "well, it sounds unlikely and silly, but sure...why not?"

Other than that, what is being done? Is he over in the corner of the room and we are all standing around him pointing and kicking him?

If he does not like this thread he can no read it...

I didn't put up a giant billboard on his street...

NO website, no ads in the paper...

There is no need for anything more, we see he does not have a real school, no students he could defraud or harm...

There is now a record of it for anyone searching for it...

But you act like there is some great terrible tragedy in all this... we are "picking on the retarded kid"

People make him out to be some victim...

And then the shit like I "get off on these threads so much", lol at your suggestion.

I cant point to dozens and dozens of occasions where I have said the same thing... this is just some entertainment. I'm not over here in a operations center with a staff of people all angry and attacking these guys 24/7... I jump in every now and then and crack a joke... I did a few google searches and posted a screen cap... it took seconds out of my day. I had a few laughs, made a few other people laugh, and it ended there.

The only people this is "real" to are the white nights and the nutjob in question.

Everyone else had some laughs ON THE INTERNET, and moved on...no one is doing shit to "ruin his life"

So again, lol at the FEW of you who love to pile on when 1 guy says something that attacks me... All of you came into the thread and read it for the same reason... you all stare at car wrecks for the same reasons. Thats what this guy is, a car wreck. Hate me if you want, I dont give a fuck, but lol at you thinking you have psycho analysed my reasons for laughing at a fake and come up with anything intelligent.

I'll make it easy for you, these guys are funny, and I like a good laugh.
Seems like you're the one that needs to be investigated.

You claim yourself to be a pro fighter, but your pro record states that you had one pro fight 6 years ago. Accolades for getting in the ring and all, but I think you need to be an active fighter to make the pro claim as you do on this thread. Are you actively training for another fight? When is it scheduled?

I'm sure New York can take care of itself when it comes to outing frauds. There are likely other schools in Iron Claw's area that know about him and don't see him as a threat....None seemed to have answered to this thread. What does that tell you?

All you've proven on this thread is that Iron Claw is a unique an entertaining individual. He seems more WWE than UFC, but who gives a shit? His skills may not be up to par, but he doesn't seem to be falsely claiming any BJJ rank or doing anything thousands of McDojos aren't doing across the country.

You started this thread, so you do have some responsibility on where it goes. At this point Iron Claw has been getting quite a bit of messages, shut down his website, and changed screen names, etc. All for what beyond your entertainment?

Was some of this funny? For sure. I joked a bit on this thread, as well. But overall, there wasn't much to investigate to begin with. Phone Post
1/16/13 10:47 AM
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My god these white knights! I'd bet serious $ that 100% of these guys are attention whores, total fucking nerds, Obama voters/supporters, or any combination of those. It's nothing less than comical that these nerds get so butt-hurt about the "mob" mentality, yet they are the worst about it! It's classic how these threads are always the same in that once the fraud is outed, all the white knights all of the sudden appear to protect the honor of whatever loser was outed! Get a life dicks. These threads do the whole martial arts community a favor and a HUGE service. Phone Post
1/16/13 11:11 AM
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DeuceDroppin - My god these white knights! I'd bet serious $ that 100% of these guys are attention whores, total fucking nerds, Obama voters/supporters, or any combination of those. It's nothing less than comical that these nerds get so butt-hurt about the "mob" mentality, yet they are the worst about it! It's classic how these threads are always the same in that once the fraud is outed, all the white knights all of the sudden appear to protect the honor of whatever loser was outed! Get a life dicks. These threads do the whole martial arts community a favor and a HUGE service. Phone Post
^^ agreed. Phone Post

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