UnderGround Forum >> The greatest MMA fraud of all time.

AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be.

Ryan Black - Johnonguitar7... why so mad, bro?

bbomber -

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

bbomber -

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

VU for bbomber.  Well put.

UGCTT_BTown -

AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be.

go on...

mmaguy30 - 

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

Your right about 1 thing... these threads always go the same way... someone finds a fraud, dumbass or fake, and there is a quick "investigation", its usually fairly easy to prove they are not legit, and along the way a bunch of shit comes to light that shows us they are actually nuts...

Then a bunch of people will come along and "attack" the folks in the thread, since I am often involved, I'm a nice big target for them, and once one talks some shit, usually a few others will pile on (you mentioned mob mentality...)

Meanwhile none of us are doing shit... people act like something is being 'done" to this guy... I posted the things he had made publicly available on the internet. After some other kid got into his email, I posted a few funny things... After he demanded i fight him I said, "well, it sounds unlikely and silly, but sure...why not?"

Other than that, what is being done? Is he over in the corner of the room and we are all standing around him pointing and kicking him?

If he does not like this thread he can no read it...

I didn't put up a giant billboard on his street...

NO website, no ads in the paper...

There is no need for anything more, we see he does not have a real school, no students he could defraud or harm...

There is now a record of it for anyone searching for it...

But you act like there is some great terrible tragedy in all this... we are "picking on the retarded kid"

People make him out to be some victim...

And then the shit like I "get off on these threads so much", lol at your suggestion.

I cant point to dozens and dozens of occasions where I have said the same thing... this is just some entertainment. I'm not over here in a operations center with a staff of people all angry and attacking these guys 24/7... I jump in every now and then and crack a joke... I did a few google searches and posted a screen cap... it took seconds out of my day. I had a few laughs, made a few other people laugh, and it ended there.

The only people this is "real" to are the white nights and the nutjob in question.

Everyone else had some laughs ON THE INTERNET, and moved on...no one is doing shit to "ruin his life"

So again, lol at the FEW of you who love to pile on when 1 guy says something that attacks me... All of you came into the thread and read it for the same reason... you all stare at car wrecks for the same reasons. Thats what this guy is, a car wreck. Hate me if you want, I dont give a fuck, but lol at you thinking you have psycho analysed my reasons for laughing at a fake and come up with anything intelligent.

I'll make it easy for you, these guys are funny, and I like a good laugh.

AssassinsNATION -

UGCTT_BTown -

AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be.

go on...

One I was assuming was maybe, possibly johnoguitar7 simply by some of his rebuttals seems to be Sensi Claw esq. but I seem to have assumed wrong. Back to lurking hoping the real Sensei will show up.

johnonguitar7 -

AssassinsNATION -

UGCTT_BTown -

AssassinsNATION -  Shit just got real I have 2 suspicions of which poster may be Iron Claw Sensei, mayone, Rossi, lee mayone, roofer, FBI agent, MMA fighter, fiction writer, millionaire, old guy about to break in a year.....might be.

go on...

One I was assuming was maybe, possibly johnoguitar7 simply by some of his rebuttals seems to be Sensi Claw esq. but I seem to have assumed wrong. Back to lurking hoping the real Sensei will show up.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


What are you fucking Inspector Cludumbo or something?

mmaguy30 -

bbomber - 

Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.

Your right about 1 thing... these threads always go the same way... someone finds a fraud, dumbass or fake, and there is a quick "investigation", its usually fairly easy to prove they are not legit, and along the way a bunch of shit comes to light that shows us they are actually nuts...

Then a bunch of people will come along and "attack" the folks in the thread, since I am often involved, I'm a nice big target for them, and once one talks some shit, usually a few others will pile on (you mentioned mob mentality...)

Meanwhile none of us are doing shit... people act like something is being 'done" to this guy... I posted the things he had made publicly available on the internet. After some other kid got into his email, I posted a few funny things... After he demanded i fight him I said, "well, it sounds unlikely and silly, but sure...why not?"

Other than that, what is being done? Is he over in the corner of the room and we are all standing around him pointing and kicking him?

If he does not like this thread he can no read it...

I didn't put up a giant billboard on his street...

NO website, no ads in the paper...

There is no need for anything more, we see he does not have a real school, no students he could defraud or harm...

There is now a record of it for anyone searching for it...

But you act like there is some great terrible tragedy in all this... we are "picking on the retarded kid"

People make him out to be some victim...

And then the shit like I "get off on these threads so much", lol at your suggestion.

I cant point to dozens and dozens of occasions where I have said the same thing... this is just some entertainment. I'm not over here in a operations center with a staff of people all angry and attacking these guys 24/7... I jump in every now and then and crack a joke... I did a few google searches and posted a screen cap... it took seconds out of my day. I had a few laughs, made a few other people laugh, and it ended there.

The only people this is "real" to are the white nights and the nutjob in question.

Everyone else had some laughs ON THE INTERNET, and moved on...no one is doing shit to "ruin his life"

So again, lol at the FEW of you who love to pile on when 1 guy says something that attacks me... All of you came into the thread and read it for the same reason... you all stare at car wrecks for the same reasons. Thats what this guy is, a car wreck. Hate me if you want, I dont give a fuck, but lol at you thinking you have psycho analysed my reasons for laughing at a fake and come up with anything intelligent.

I'll make it easy for you, these guys are funny, and I like a good laugh.

DeuceDroppin - My god these white knights! I'd bet serious $ that 100% of these guys are attention whores, total fucking nerds, Obama voters/supporters, or any combination of those. It's nothing less than comical that these nerds get so butt-hurt about the "mob" mentality, yet they are the worst about it! It's classic how these threads are always the same in that once the fraud is outed, all the white knights all of the sudden appear to protect the honor of whatever loser was outed! Get a life dicks. These threads do the whole martial arts community a favor and a HUGE service.

Atkinson - 

fourozgloves - 

Atkinson -

fourozgloves -

Atkinson -

mister3mma -

diggity - I looked at this guy, he's mentally ill. Stop pushing, he could hurt himself or worse still, hurt someone else... Just let this go. And mmaguy, how did you 'stumble' on this guy? This could get really unfunny really fast. Dave Lang was a cunning, slimy scuzz bag... This dude is mentally unstable. Should just be left alone.

Not mentally ill, someone here knows of him, says Sensei is weird but not mentally ill.

And "someone here" is a psychologist?

Just know that if this Fightr guy did do something to himself this thread would be used by his friends or parents in court.

It's all fun and games till reality hits home.

You've exposed him.. What more do you want?

Psychology qualification or GTFO.

GTFO after taking a course in reading comprehension.

I comprehend just fine fren. My point is that you probably know about as much about psychology as anyone else here.

Do you actually think before tapping away on your phone?

You dont comprehend just fine because if you did you would realise that I havent made any comments needing a qualification in psychology.

However if you were to actually read more carefully you would see its ME who is questioning another member on their unflinching trust in "someone here" knowing that the person in question is not mentally unstable.. just weird.

To know this beyond a shadow of a doubt would actually require some form of psychological qualification.. which this person most probably doesnt have.

I hope this has helped your comprehension skills "fren" ;)