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1/16/13 11:49 AM
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ZekeJones 9 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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lol wow.
1/16/13 12:05 PM
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diggity - I looked at this guy, he's mentally ill. Stop pushing, he could hurt himself or worse still, hurt someone else... Just let this go. And mmaguy, how did you 'stumble' on this guy? This could get really unfunny really fast. Dave Lang was a cunning, slimy scuzz bag... This dude is mentally unstable. Should just be left alone. Phone Post
Not mentally ill, someone here knows of him, says Sensei is weird but not mentally ill. Phone Post
And "someone here" is a psychologist?

Just know that if this Fightr guy did do something to himself this thread would be used by his friends or parents in court.

It's all fun and games till reality hits home.

You've exposed him.. What more do you want? Phone Post
Psychology qualification or GTFO. Phone Post
GTFO after taking a course in reading comprehension. Phone Post
I comprehend just fine fren. My point is that you probably know about as much about psychology as anyone else here. Phone Post

Do you actually think before tapping away on your phone?

You dont comprehend just fine because if you did you would realise that I havent made any comments needing a qualification in psychology.

However if you were to actually read more carefully you would see its ME who is questioning another member on their unflinching trust in "someone here" knowing that the person in question is not mentally unstable.. just weird.

To know this beyond a shadow of a doubt would actually require some form of psychological qualification.. which this person most probably doesnt have.

I hope this has helped your comprehension skills "fren" ;)


I actually have an MA in psychology.

First of all, you're mostly talking about psycho-analysis. You can't really analyse someone based on postings but even if you could its not something that would be considered conclusive.

If anything this guy has paranoia, allusions of grandeur, or some other sort of distortion of reality which could be indicative of schizophrenia. But any kind of actual disorder like that could only be determined by a PSYCHIATRIST not a PSYCHOLOGIST. They are the only ones who can deal with chemical imbalances. Psychology is more like counselling for hte most part.
1/16/13 12:14 PM
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mmaguy30 149 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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mr principal,

I am not actively training for a fight so that negates my pro record...

Because of the time that lapsed, I can now also consider myself an ammy...

I hereby declare myself an amateur fighter.

This will end my problems I have here in SC with the commission, and will allow me to fight as an amateur as I would rather do...

The fact that I was once paid to fight no longer matters, please remove my green name, make me a mud, take away my tapoutground privileges, and all the great power and prowess that comes with it.

Perfect.


Furthermore, he very specifically not only claims a Purple belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, he named when he got it, and is posting videos of him instructing BJJ to others. So your statement "he doesn't seem to be falsely claiming any BJJ rank or doing anything thousands of McDojos aren't doing across the country." is not only factually completely wrong, it is ridiculous...

So others are doing something similar... we should just ignore it...

again, perfect.


Yes, I started the thread, I disagree with the statement made that I have "responsibility as to where it goes..." people can take it wherever they want... I showed everyone something I think is funy... DOZENS agreed it was funny and laughed, (you included) a few people have contacted the guy and are continuing to laugh at the dumb shit the idiot says... (see the above McDonalds rant) but beyond that, the thread is now become posts directed at how terrible I am and what a scumbag fake I must be...

If you really feel that because of all that I need to be "investigated", please... by all means, PLEASE, do so.

In the mean time I plan on sitting back and waiting to read more comedy gold from Sensei Iron Claw with the others in the thread who don't have their own heads shoved up their own ass.

Signed,

mmagut
1/16/13 12:30 PM
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UGCTT_BTown 11 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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this guy is priceless...

Iron Claw i've done you no harm. An innocent bystander if you will. Please join us here in chat. I cannot read enough of emails they are unbelieveably awesome!!
1/16/13 12:44 PM
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Something tells me this guy might actually be dangerous from a psychological POV. I wouldn't want him to have my home address
1/16/13 1:36 PM
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saddamhugevein 114 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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White Knights are no fun.... Like this guy who gets what he deserved.

1/16/13 1:39 PM
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The Principal 87 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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mmaguy30,
We'll have to agree to disagree on some points. I do agree that Iron Claw is a funny dude. I also support outing fake BJJ instructors for the better of BJJ.....I said what I needed to say in previous posts already. Phone Post
1/16/13 1:47 PM
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saddamhugevein 114 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^^^well done mate.

:) Phone Post
1/16/13 1:59 PM
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mister3mma 196 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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UGCTT_sideshowsteve - Holy shit at some of the people on here...
Speaking of holy shit, here is Warrens newest daily email offering.

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back seat... no bobby they don't sell donuts here this is New York... not now we'll do our
coke lines later... I don't want to leave traces of it in the vehicle this is New York... I said
shut up yopu fat fuck and sit down... yes I will order you 5 big mac lard ass... Oh... you
no that wasn't part of the order... MMAGUT... You know me here in New York? Who
cares if I'm carrying a few extra pounds... just give me my order...
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Wait hold the big mac and the fries... I don't even drink soda... make that corn... You don't
sell corn... Ok... give me a cappucino... shut the fuck up boddy you starving bastered...
You don't sell cappucino? What who are you calling a stupid loser... Kick his ass Bobby
dude... don't be afraid because he's a New Yorker and you are in his front yard... Ya Ya
you have nothing that I want... I will give my business to Burger King... Oh... shit the car is
over heating... call giant one... he will know what to do... are you crazy... wait a minute... Is
that him... bobby... I sware to God... waren just drove by... duct down in your seat.......
Whats that smell... bobby don't tell me that you shit yourself... because I did too "
Huh? Phone Post
1/16/13 2:15 PM
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lol, an MA in psychology said allusions of grandeur.
1/16/13 2:29 PM
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UGCTT_sideshowsteve 59 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Stan Dan Wang - lol, an MA in psychology said allusions of grandeur.

lol - I was thinking the same thing, but as I am working on a bachelors in psych right now, I thought that -just maybe- besides delusions of grandeur, there could also be something called 'allusions' of grandeur and I just hadn't taken that course yet!
1/16/13 3:02 PM
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time traveling 12er 56 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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What about taking on someone like Lloyd Irving? He's done more damage to MMA than all of these frauds put together and he's being protected on this board. Furthermore he's taking actions to scrub anything negative from web searches.
1/16/13 3:03 PM
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Caleb R 91 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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saddamhugevein -

White Knights are no fun.... Like this guy who gets what he deserved.

What's the story on this gif? That's awesome! Phone Post
1/16/13 3:09 PM
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saddamhugevein -

White Knights are no fun.... Like this guy who gets what he deserved.

What's the story on this gif? That's awesome! Phone Post

To me

Looks like silly sad wanker tries to settle silly bored wanker down.

Then fails terribly...But what do I know...

 

1/16/13 3:19 PM
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saddamhugevein 114 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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ok... here is a teaser, we are saving the instructionals now, so if you figure out who this is, dont say shit yet...

 


1/16/13 3:28 PM
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Caleb R 91 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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saddamhugevein -

White Knights are no fun.... Like this guy who gets what he deserved.

What's the story on this gif? That's awesome! Phone Post

To me

Looks like silly sad wanker tries to settle silly bored wanker down.

Then fails terribly...But what do I know...

 

Yes, that much is apparent. I was wondering if you had the source video or anything. Phone Post
1/16/13 3:44 PM
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The Principal - mmaguy30,
We'll have to agree to disagree on some points. I do agree that Iron Claw is a funny dude. I also support outing fake BJJ instructors for the better of BJJ.....I said what I needed to say in previous posts already. Phone Post
Translation: "You owned my cawkfaggotwhiteknight ass so I'll STFU now." Phone Post
1/16/13 4:11 PM
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The Principal 87 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^ never was white knighting, just trying to keep it real around here. I know mmaguy30 likes outing people as being a fraud. So be it. We disagree about what constituted a fraud and who is not. I didn't say much back to him after his last post because I was trying to take the high road.

......A year and a half ago, on the Scott Shields fake Blackbelt thread, mmaguy30 was outed for his BJJ school listing him as a pro with a 4-2 record. His school still lists that as of this posting. Reality is that he fought 1 pro fight 6 years ago and got TKO'd in under 2 minutes; nothing to be ashamed of. But why in the last year and a half, since that thread, has he not had this corrected? Seems kind of strange considering his moral convictions around keeping MMA pure and everyone honest.

So who is the white knight? Me for disagreeing with what constitutes a fraud or him trying to save MMA and BJJ? Phone Post
1/16/13 4:17 PM
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mmaguy30 149 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Ask me how that site got that info, ask me when I gave them permission to put me on there at all, ask me about my current relationship with them... i

Ask me if I train at that school or how often that website is updated... then ask how long ago that school lost is Gracie affiliation, and who took over as the local Relson School, who is the head MMA coach, and the combined record of his fight team...

The point is, you are speaking on something you are just clueless about.
1/16/13 4:29 PM
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The Principal 87 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^What have you done since that was posted (at least over a year and a half ago) to rectify the error? Why aren't you as emphatic about correcting your misrepresentation as you are when others are dishonest? Phone Post
1/16/13 4:30 PM
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saddamhugevein 114 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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Right now BOYS JUST STOP IT!!!

1/16/13 4:33 PM
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The Principal - ^ never was white knighting, just trying to keep it real around here. I know mmaguy30 likes outing people as being a fraud. So be it. We disagree about what constituted a fraud and who is not. I didn't say much back to him after his last post because I was trying to take the high road.

......A year and a half ago, on the Scott Shields fake Blackbelt thread, mmaguy30 was outed for his BJJ school listing him as a pro with a 4-2 record. His school still lists that as of this posting. Reality is that he fought 1 pro fight 6 years ago and got TKO'd in under 2 minutes; nothing to be ashamed of. But why in the last year and a half, since that thread, has he not had this corrected? Seems kind of strange considering his moral convictions around keeping MMA pure and everyone honest.

So who is the white knight? Me for disagreeing with what constitutes a fraud or him trying to save MMA and BJJ? Phone Post
Wait so now he's trying to save MMA and BJJ? What's going on with it that it needs to be saved? I thought they were both at an all time high right now. Am I missing something? Drama queen much? Do you ever get accused by your woman (or man) of being a drama bitch? Last I checked I have seen mmaguy over and over state that he does this for the laughs. I have seen him say that for years. The service to the world of martial arts is just an added bonus.

As far as his record...I've also seen him asked about this for years, and have never seen him fabricate anything. Ive never seen him claim to be 4-1, so if some goon posted that on their website to try and make their school look better, I'd guess it's part of the reason that mmaguy isn't at the school any longer.

LOGIC...what is it again?

As I keep saying over and over...PLEASE jah don't ever make me sit in front of a jury!!! Phone Post
1/16/13 4:36 PM
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The Principal - ^What have you done since that was posted (at least over a year and a half ago) to rectify the error? Why aren't you as emphatic about correcting your misrepresentation as you are when others are dishonest? Phone Post
I know the answer to this from logic and simple reasoning ability. I mentioned it in my last post, and mmaguy did as well. Regardless I'm sure he'll be back to own your ass some more in 5...4...3...2...1..... Phone Post
1/16/13 4:42 PM
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mmaguy30 149 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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First, I didnt misrepresent anything.

I didn't post that, give my permission, for them to do it, ask them to put it up.

I don't speak to them anymore, have not in a long time... I figure the site will expire soon anyway, and frankly, could give a shit less about it... the ONLY people that give a fuck about that record on that site are a few select fools, seeking to attack me, for whatever reasons they have...

Its simple man, you don't like what I'm doing here, either dont read it, or piss off. You made a few statements that were false or incorrect, I corrected you, and you want to keep at this, your just barking up the wrong tree... If you feel so strongly about a website is posting a fight record for me, which in all actuality is a real and accurate record, go start a thread... demand a peepee taste video from me, investigate every second of my life... get people to laugh at me...


Or not...

I'm still waiting for you to either raise a valid point someone gives a fuck about, or to piss off...
1/16/13 4:45 PM
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The Principal 87 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

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^Fair enough. I agree. We'll see if someone else gives a shit about any of this. If they don't, then it should end. Phone Post

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