UnderGround Forum >> The arrogance of TLI is disgusting

DAVID H - 

spartancs - 

Mdson - Damn, his Sambo coach is a convicted molester? Didn't know that until now.

as repoted elswhere, Mark Densberger was convicted of Raping his 3 adopted sons while he filmed it.  He also "punished" them by forcing them to have sex with each other, which he also filmed.

What, no way. How could this guy be free??? Unless this happened a long time ago, when baby rapers usually got probation or a small sentence.

These days, this guy would get life for that...

Can someone verify this????????

DAVID H - 

spartancs - 

Mdson - Damn, his Sambo coach is a convicted molester? Didn't know that until now.

as repoted elswhere, Mark Densberger was convicted of Raping his 3 adopted sons while he filmed it.  He also "punished" them by forcing them to have sex with each other, which he also filmed.

What, no way. How could this guy be free??? Unless this happened a long time ago, when baby rapers usually got probation or a small sentence.

These days, this guy would get life for that...

Can someone verify this????????

http://federal-circuits.vlex.com/vid/usa-v-densberger-41167091

have a barf bag handy

spartancs - 

Mdson - Damn, his Sambo coach is a convicted molester? Didn't know that until now.

as repoted elswhere, Mark Densberger was convicted of Raping his 3 adopted sons while he filmed it.  He also "punished" them by forcing them to have sex with each other, which he also filmed.

I just read the appeal (which was denied). I didnt find what the sentence was but its a clear cut case of throw away the key., and I am being nice. That is fucked up on another level of fucked up.

How did he not get the full 20 years??

Another shining star in the TLI group, Phil Proctor head trainer at Wrightson BJJ MD, had this to say about the 98lb gang rape victim. "it sounds like a "train was run" on a dirty whore that got to feeling guilty"

john joe - i've never read that before, or heard of him. that fucking animal should be doused in petrol and set alight. Is he actually allowed now to be a member of the MA community and run a school and whatnot??

Agreed agreed agreed

john joe - i'm digging around now; apparently he got 17 years and his 2008 appeal was dismissed.

i hope he's getting fucking battered every day in there; i hope he's been shanked multiple times and everything. Disgusting

So this was Irvin's Judo coach?  This entire situation, the entire program over there is fucked up.... 

ShawnTheBadger - Gentlemen,

All the pertinent links and news accounts are right here:

lloydirvinrapeexposed.com

Readers Digest:

*The guy that awarded Irvin his BB in Sambo, is a convicted child-incest rapist videographer currently serving time.

*Lloyd Irvin got off on a stupid technicality in his 1989 rape trial. All the other defendants guilty, Irvin not guilty (in a court of law) because he wanted to join in but could not get hard. The victim states that Irvin did in fact rape her and hold her down. The Jury was not allowed to consider other lesser charges. "Reasonable doubt" was created on which (non-limp) dick was raping/sodomizing her in which orifice at which time.

*Lloyd Irvins two (2) male students (cult/team members) rape a 17-year old female (falling down drunk) member of his school (New Years Eve 2013) and it is caught on a damn surveillance camera (the "defendants" are fucked).

It seems like an entire cult-ure of sex offenders. Makes me wonder if LI and his Sambo Master Densberger ever discussed their past and told each other "war stories" of their mutual disgusting sexual deviancy. Makes me wonder about the entire attitude, aura and thought process surrounding Lloyd Irvin and being fed directly to and affecting his team members.

I personally hope this cripples his business and the fall-out over the next year or two being that folks (students, team members, sponsors) flee the LI academies and the culture they apparently both harbor and foster.

Finally, continuing to call LI a "Master" is disrespectful to all the noble folks that are deserving of that title.

Hard to argue against the facts. I agree totally... on the surface it appears sex offenses have become acceptable there

So he's still inside right? Since 04 or what?...

And he was formerly Irvin's coach? 

ShawnTheBadger - Gentlemen,

All the pertinent links and news accounts are right here:

lloydirvinrapeexposed.com

Readers Digest:

*The guy that awarded Irvin his BB in Sambo, is a convicted child-incest rapist videographer currently serving time.

*Lloyd Irvin got off on a stupid technicality in his 1989 rape trial. All the other defendants guilty, Irvin not guilty (in a court of law) because he wanted to join in but could not get hard. The victim states that Irvin did in fact rape her and hold her down. The Jury was not allowed to consider other lesser charges. "Reasonable doubt" was created on which (non-limp) dick was raping/sodomizing her in which orifice at which time.

*Lloyd Irvins two (2) male students (cult/team members) rape a 17-year old female (falling down drunk) member of his school (New Years Eve 2013) and it is caught on a damn surveillance camera (the "defendants" are fucked).

It seems like an entire cult-ure of sex offenders. Makes me wonder if LI and his Sambo Master Densberger ever discussed their past and told each other "war stories" of their mutual disgusting sexual deviancy. Makes me wonder about the entire attitude, aura and thought process surrounding Lloyd Irvin and being fed directly to and affecting his team members.

I personally hope this cripples his business and the fall-out over the next year or two being that folks (students, team members, sponsors) flee the LI academies and the culture they apparently both harbor and foster.

Finally, continuing to call LI a "Master" is disrespectful to all the noble folks that are deserving of that title.

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

Rival School - 

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

I can only go off his conviction... Which did not happen. You can't just call someone a rapist who has been cleared of those accusations.

The UG is going full on OG. Now all of a sudden it's an underground rape gang. Get real. You guys all hated Lloyd forever and now they finally have ammo. This was a haters dream come true.

As for me I like jiu jitsu and I don't idolize MMA figures and coaches. Therefor when they get popped for roids, drugs or any other random charge I couldnt care less.

Rival School -

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

I can only go off his conviction... Which did not happen. You can't just call someone a rapist who has been cleared of those accusations.

The UG is going full on OG. Now all of a sudden it's an underground rape gang. Get real. You guys all hated Lloyd forever and now they finally have ammo. This was a haters dream come true.

As for me I like jiu jitsu and I don't idolize MMA figures and coaches. Therefor when they get popped for roids, drugs or any other random charge I couldnt care less.

Rival School - 

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

I can only go off his conviction... Which did not happen. You can't just call someone a rapist who has been cleared of those accusations.

The UG is going full on OG. Now all of a sudden it's an underground rape gang. Get real. You guys all hated Lloyd forever and now they finally have ammo. This was a haters dream come true.

As for me I like jiu jitsu and I don't idolize MMA figures and coaches. Therefor when they get popped for roids, drugs or any other random charge I couldnt care less.

They raping erreybody at LI school of how to subdue your victims.

Truemanc3 - I think the best thing TLI should do is nothing..... wait until things die down and then address all the points in an adult fashion.

I would not be drawn in to FB dicussions.

That will just end badly!