UnderGround Forum >> The arrogance of TLI is disgusting

Rival School - 

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

I can only go off his conviction... Which did not happen. You can't just call someone a rapist who has been cleared of those accusations.

The UG is going full on OG. Now all of a sudden it's an underground rape gang. Get real. You guys all hated Lloyd forever and now they finally have ammo. This was a haters dream come true.

As for me I like jiu jitsu and I don't idolize MMA figures and coaches. Therefor when they get popped for roids, drugs or any other random charge I couldnt care less.

Truemanc3 - I think the best thing TLI should do is nothing..... wait until things die down and then address all the points in an adult fashion.

I would not be drawn in to FB dicussions.

That will just end badly!

john joe - WARNING

THE BELOW IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC AND EXTREMELY UPSETTING RELATING TO ACTS DENSBERGER COMMITTED ; SKIP THE QUOTED SECTION IF YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE DISTRESSED BY IT

from court papers relating to his convictions for, and appeals against, incest, rape and child pornography relating to three male juveniles/infants in his care.

Densberger was the adoptive father of three boys, Mark Jr., Bruce, and Bryan Densberger. In May 2004, the oldest son, Bryan, contacted the Pennsylvania State Police to report that his father raped him. In a two-page written statement, Bryan told the Pennsylvania State Police that since October 1996, when he was thirteen years old, Densberger had repeatedly sexually assaulted him and his brothers. Bryan alleged that his father: (1) forced them to perform oral and anal sex on him and one another for both their punishment and his pleasure, (2) videotaped many of the assaults that occurred during the eight-year period, and (3) instructed his sons to bring girls home and have sex with them in the martial arts studio (a converted detached garage) so Densberger could secretly videotape those sexual acts.

On May 15, 2004, a search warrant was executed on Densberger's home in Milton, Pennsylvania. Authorities recovered nine video tapes depicting Densberger engaging in graphic sexual activity with his sons, his sons engaging in the same activity with one another, and his sons engaging in sexual activity with three minor females. Densberger was charged under Pennsylvania law with possession of child pornography, incest, and rape.

On June 28, 2004, Densberger was released on bail from the county jail under the condition that he not contact any of the victims. Later that day, Densberger was arrested attempting to cross the Canadian border. His then seventeen-year-old son, Bruce, was driving a separate vehicle a few cars behind Densberger. Bruce was detained when border officials' suspicions were aroused by the fact that court documents and $10,000 in undeclared cash were in the vehicle. Densberger later stated that he was not attempting to flee, but was taking a vacation camping trip. He claimed that the cash was a remnant of Bruce's efforts to gather the money to post his father's bail.

On November 8, 2004, Densberger entered into an agreement with the United States whereby he agreed to plead guilty to one count of sexual exploitation of children in violation of 18U.S.C. § 2251.1 His plea was conditional, reserving the right to appeal an adverse ruling on his pretrial motion challenging the constitutionality of § 2251(b).

In January 2007, the probation officer filed a Presentence Report (PSR) with the District Court. The PSR recommended: (1) a two-level obstruction of justice enhancement due to Densberger's attempt to cross the border into Canada; (2) a fourlevel multiple-victim enhancement for the videotapes involving the minor females; (3) a two-level enhancement because Bryan and Bruce were under the age of sixteen when the assaults on them began; (4) a four-level enhancement because Mark Jr. was under the age of twelve when the assaults on him began; (5) a two-level enhancement because Densberger was the parent of the victims; (6) a two-level enhancement because Densberger knew or should have known that his sons, who were adopted between the ages of nine and twelve and had histories of neglect and abuse, were vulnerable victims; and (7) no downward adjustment for acceptance of responsibility, because although Densberger pled guilty, at the time the PSR was submitted he had not provided the requested written statement about his involvement in the offense.

The enhancements recommended in the PSR led to a guideline sentence of 324405 months' imprisonment. However, the statutory maximum is twenty years, which adjusted the guideline sentence to 240 months.

The District Court accepted the findings of the PSR in full. Under the Sentencing Guidelines, the federal sentence was required to be served concurrently with Densberger's state sentence. U.S.S.G. § 5G1.3(b). Therefore, the Court reduced the federal sentence to account for time already served on the state sentence. The final sentence was 206 months' imprisonment.

ssj -

chalkandcheese -  Is this now a rape forum?

rapists have no place in ma and mma

chalkandcheese -

ssj -

chalkandcheese -  Is this now a rape forum?

rapists have no place in ma and mma

Hopefully Ronda won't get raped or this place with implode.

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Rival School -

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

I can only go off his conviction... Which did not happen. You can't just call someone a rapist who has been cleared of those accusations.

The UG is going full on OG. Now all of a sudden it's an underground rape gang. Get real. You guys all hated Lloyd forever and now they finally have ammo. This was a haters dream come true.

As for me I like jiu jitsu and I don't idolize MMA figures and coaches. Therefor when they get popped for roids, drugs or any other random charge I couldnt care less.

blacksamurai - 

Magic Mago -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Well, he wasn't convicted of it, but both the victim and 1 of his buddies testified that he did in fact penetrate her.

They must have worn rubbers or they didn't have DNA forensics in 1990 which is it?

DNA forensics was invented prior to 89, but not in widespread use

9ersKAEPedmyfudgehole - 

spartancs - 

Mdson - Damn, his Sambo coach is a convicted molester? Didn't know that until now.

as repoted elswhere, Mark Densberger was convicted of Raping his 3 adopted sons while he filmed it.  He also "punished" them by forcing them to have sex with each other, which he also filmed.

Is this really true? is there a source?

cause thats some Jerry Sandusky shit right there

filmed it???

cocksucker should be put in the worst max security prison there is and get gang raped on a daily basis

blacksamurai -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Buuutttt we all know Mike Tyson is a CONVICTED rapist, but has a broadway show, and Helwani is not getting any vitriol for doing interviews with him, and DFW has pictures of the guy in his office or something to the affect...

Maybe you guys should make posts about Helwani coddling a rapist and Dana Idolizing a rapist...

Kobe Bryant accused of rape, has exclusive Nike endorsement deal a 170$ shoe that everybody lines up to but and was on the fuckin USA Olympic team twice! Even if the girl had 50 different DNA's she still originally accused him of rape!

The mosters at TLI are indicative of a larger problem.

Apparently...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/17/washington-police-accused-rape-failures

I've never had any ill will toward TLI or any of his affiliates and watched this unfold after the rape of the two girls.  Now I can say with conviction I think they're all scumbags.

What happened New Year's Day was awful, buying Lloydirvinrape.com immediately afterward and advertising rape prevention seminars by Lloyd was beyond disgusting.  

Visiting his facebook and seeing him just having a blast and dum dee dum nothing happened was even more disgusting

Seeing his affilliates defend his case back in 1990 by saying the victim was just a dirty whore was unforgivable

Seeing his followers attack Keenan's family on facebook, and seeing Avellan put up a thread here defending it all only to have it taken down when Keenan's dad responded was completely beyond all comprehension.

Something is seriously fucked up with Team Lloyd Irvin.  It's way beyond fucked up.

blacksamurai - 

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Buuutttt we all know Mike Tyson is a CONVICTED rapist, but has a broadway show, and Helwani is not getting any vitriol for doing interviews with him, and DFW has pictures of the guy in his office or something to the affect...

Maybe you guys should make posts about Helwani coddling a rapist and Dana Idolizing a rapist...

Kobe Bryant accused of rape, has exclusive Nike endorsement deal a 170$ shoe that everybody lines up to but and was on the fuckin USA Olympic team twice! Even if the girl had 50 different DNA's she still originally accused him of rape!

LiveFromThe7x7 - 

blacksamurai - 

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Buuutttt we all know Mike Tyson is a CONVICTED rapist, but has a broadway show, and Helwani is not getting any vitriol for doing interviews with him, and DFW has pictures of the guy in his office or something to the affect...

Maybe you guys should make posts about Helwani coddling a rapist and Dana Idolizing a rapist...

Kobe Bryant accused of rape, has exclusive Nike endorsement deal a 170$ shoe that everybody lines up to but and was on the fuckin USA Olympic team twice! Even if the girl had 50 different DNA's she still originally accused him of rape!

I'm sure these guys all listen to Tupac, too.

You're trying to reason with a lynch mob, though, it won't work.

Logical people like me received enough vote downs to warrant a suspension.

People have hated TLI for years. Now is the time for the haters to get their pound of flesh.

See, this is Lloybacca. He's a wookie. What does that have to do with this? Absolutely nothing. This makes no sense.

"IF THE MAN WAS SO LIMP, ALL HE COULD DO WITH HIS MANHOOD IS PEE, YOU MUST SET HIM FREE."

Rival School - 

blacksamurai -

Rival School - As much as people want to push this he's not a rapist. Wanting to or not he didn't. So he is indeed NOT a rapist.

Buuutttt we all know Mike Tyson is a CONVICTED rapist, but has a broadway show, and Helwani is not getting any vitriol for doing interviews with him, and DFW has pictures of the guy in his office or something to the affect...

Maybe you guys should make posts about Helwani coddling a rapist and Dana Idolizing a rapist...

Kobe Bryant accused of rape, has exclusive Nike endorsement deal a 170$ shoe that everybody lines up to but and was on the fuckin USA Olympic team twice! Even if the girl had 50 different DNA's she still originally accused him of rape!

They always hated Lloyd so it's more convenient

Thing is I could have understood Master Irvin laying low and letting this all blow over after releasing his initial statement.  But no.

He and his followers went full retard.

Burn in hell they will.