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If they weren't before, these emails are now almost fully incoherent. O.o Phone Post
1/17/13 3:03 AM
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bknumber1 - If they weren't before, these emails are now almost fully incoherent. O.o Phone Post
Broke him dude Phone Post
1/17/13 3:36 AM
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time traveling 12er - Come one guys, no one wants to take a go at Lloyd Irvin in the honor of BJJ? Rapist? Also apparently people accuse him of teaching people to rip off students with shady business dealings? This seems to fit all the criteria. Minus the target being a borderline retarded social outcast.
You should start your own thread re a LI dojo swarm. This thread is about Sensei iron claw Phone Post

Nice cop out. Anyways this will likely never happen since the pitchforks go away once connected people get mentioned. Still it would have been nice to see everyone mobilize and get passionate about someone that is actually damaging the sport.
1/17/13 3:40 AM
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Err.. It's getting painfully obvious that this is all an elaborate joke... Hands up who hasn't figured this out... D'uh.... Phone Post
1/17/13 3:41 AM
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Good point on Lloyd Irvin by the way. Surely? Phone Post
1/17/13 4:17 AM
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LOL @ Sensei Iron Claw's newest ramblings. He is firing off gold by the sentence, by the hour, separated only by Captain Kirk-like pauses... Phone Post
1/17/13 7:48 AM
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time traveling 12er - Come one guys, no one wants to take a go at Lloyd Irvin in the honor of BJJ? Rapist? Also apparently people accuse him of teaching people to rip off students with shady business dealings? This seems to fit all the criteria. Minus the target being a borderline retarded social outcast.
You should start your own thread re a LI dojo swarm. This thread is about Sensei iron claw Phone Post

Nice cop out. Anyways this will likely never happen since the pitchforks go away once connected people get mentioned. Still it would have been nice to see everyone mobilize and get passionate about someone that is actually damaging the sport.
Are you that fucking stupid? Have you not seen the tons of LI threads that have popped up the past few days? You're saying that yet another one is needed? How is he ripping off students? He has tons of guys winning at the highest levels. If you want to attack him because of the recent happenings, there are tons of threads where you can do so. Those of us on here are interested in laughing at/outing fake fighters, which has nothing to do with LI. No one answered your first troll attempt because it was so fucking stupid. You should have taken the hint then tard. Phone Post
1/17/13 7:53 AM
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hahahaha^ this
1/17/13 9:06 AM
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UGCTT_sideshowsteve,

I have a question.

Why does this guy keep sending you all those annoying e-mails? Isn't he going to get in trouble for harassment?
If not, why is that?

And you said you have been receiving e-mails from different addressses. If so, how do you know they are coming from the same guy?

Just curious.
1/17/13 9:12 AM
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Greatest troll ever or batshit. Maybe both? Phone Post
1/17/13 9:14 AM
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UGCTT_sideshowsteve,

One more thing.

If this guy keeps sending you, an innocent bystander, those e-mails, I believe that you have a right to publish his(or their)addresses right here.

What do you think?
1/17/13 9:21 AM
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factchecker - UGCTT_sideshowsteve,

I have a question.

Why does this guy keep sending you all those annoying e-mails? Isn't he going to get in trouble for harassment?
If not, why is that?

And you said you have been receiving e-mails from different addressses. If so, how do you know they are coming from the same guy?

Just curious.
Was thinking same Phone Post
1/17/13 9:53 AM
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factchecker - UGCTT_sideshowsteve,

I have a question.

Why does this guy keep sending you all those annoying e-mails? Isn't he going to get in trouble for harassment?
If not, why is that?

And you said you have been receiving e-mails from different addressses. If so, how do you know they are coming from the same guy?

Just curious.

I have no idea how I can answer that. All I know is that right when mmaguy started the thread and I offered to cap the training videos, 2 or 3 of us emailed him to make him aware of the thread. He responded to my email. We then emailed back and forth until my responses began to bounce back.
Now, for the last few days, he's been sending what I've been posting.
I know they have been coming fro the same guy because they all have the same originating IP in the headers, which is coming from the Albany, NY area.
1/17/13 10:00 AM
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factchecker - UGCTT_sideshowsteve,

One more thing.

If this guy keeps sending you, an innocent bystander, those e-mails, I believe that you have a right to publish his(or their)addresses right here.

What do you think?

Absolutely - I could publish the addresses, but I don't know what that would accomplish. I'm not exactly an innocent bystander though. I initiated communication with him and although I wasn't a complete asshole in my communication, it wasn't the friendliest of emails. He also seems to think I am mmaguy, I'm guessing that is why he emails me.
1/17/13 10:09 AM
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If it weren't for the guys full 'God Of War' back tattoo and the vids, plus everyone's experience with him in Mass.,(Booby Dias, etc), I'd be with ya! I still IP check every email that comes in because it is all so over the top and they are all coming from his hometown in Reansealer (sp.?), NY.
1/17/13 10:28 AM
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diggity -  Err.. It's getting painfully obvious that this is all an elaborate joke... Hands up who hasn't figured this out... D'uh.... Phone Post

my last post was in response to this^
1/17/13 11:19 AM
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I think I'd rather be made fun of online than have people online say I am too mentally unstable to be made fun of online.

Can we get a few Giant Lee shirts for sale here?
1/17/13 11:35 AM
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Sir Chadwick - you just made me lol in the middle of a lecture, you asshole! Phone Post
1/17/13 11:38 AM
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Hair dew.....boneryard....great
1/17/13 11:44 AM
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Sensei Giant Lee Iron Claw

"FIGHTR NOT LOVR"

"A GOD OF WAR"

"HANDS MADE FOR WAR"

I can print out some stickers with these great quotes and others from Iron Claw if anyone would like them. Ill see if I can get iron on material for my machine so they can be transferred to a shirt. (No pun intended) Phone Post
1/17/13 12:02 PM
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time traveling 12er - Come one guys, no one wants to take a go at Lloyd Irvin in the honor of BJJ? Rapist? Also apparently people accuse him of teaching people to rip off students with shady business dealings? This seems to fit all the criteria. Minus the target being a borderline retarded social outcast.
You should start your own thread re a LI dojo swarm. This thread is about Sensei iron claw Phone Post

Nice cop out. Anyways this will likely never happen since the pitchforks go away once connected people get mentioned. Still it would have been nice to see everyone mobilize and get passionate about someone that is actually damaging the sport.
Are you that fucking stupid? Have you not seen the tons of LI threads that have popped up the past few days? You're saying that yet another one is needed? How is he ripping off students? He has tons of guys winning at the highest levels. If you want to attack him because of the recent happenings, there are tons of threads where you can do so. Those of us on here are interested in laughing at/outing fake fighters, which has nothing to do with LI. No one answered your first troll attempt because it was so fucking stupid. You should have taken the hint then tard. Phone Post

Nope, what I'm saying is that you guys like to gang up on these borderline retards. But in the past when anyone even moderately connected comes up everyone shuts their mouths. This isn't for honor, this is for fun. Yeah there are tons of LI threads, and even a website. Most of which are getting deleted and ignored by most of the people that like to stand on their soapboxes when one of these threads gets started. Students winning in the past hasn't been an excuse in the past, why should it be now? Also people have called LI's system a scam in the past and have heavily criticized him for what he does even outside the rape stuff. What I'm pointing out is that if protecting BJJ is what you guys are really about then LI should be the type of people you should be attacking. But like you said this is all really for the lol's regardless of how indignant some of you get when someone questions you.
1/17/13 1:04 PM
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AssassinsNATION -  Sensei Giant Lee Iron Claw

"FIGHTR NOT LOVR"

"A GOD OF WAR"

"HANDS MADE FOR WAR"

I can print out some stickers with these great quotes and others from Iron Claw if anyone would like them. Ill see if I can get iron on material for my machine so they can be transferred to a shirt. (No pun intended) Phone Post

Hands made for war?? HANDS MADE FOR WAR? What the actual fuck? How DARE you sully the golden teachings and quotes of Sensei Iron Claw? Its hands made TO war.

Mods, can we ban this idiot for obvious fightr bashing and for purposley misquoting such a great man?
1/17/13 2:03 PM
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AssassinsNATION -  Sensei Giant Lee Iron Claw

"FIGHTR NOT LOVR"

"A GOD OF WAR"

"HANDS MADE FOR WAR"

I can print out some stickers with these great quotes and others from Iron Claw if anyone would like them. Ill see if I can get iron on material for my machine so they can be transferred to a shirt. (No pun intended) Phone Post

Hands made for war?? HANDS MADE FOR WAR? What the actual fuck? How DARE you sully the golden teachings and quotes of Sensei Iron Claw? Its hands made TO war.

Mods, can we ban this idiot for obvious fightr bashing and for purposley misquoting such a great man?
Lol my bad I humbly retract that misquote and beg for forgiveness from Iron Claw known as Lee Mayone. Please grant forgiveness.... Phone Post
1/17/13 3:14 PM
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time traveling 12er - Come one guys, no one wants to take a go at Lloyd Irvin in the honor of BJJ? Rapist? Also apparently people accuse him of teaching people to rip off students with shady business dealings? This seems to fit all the criteria. Minus the target being a borderline retarded social outcast.
You should start your own thread re a LI dojo swarm. This thread is about Sensei iron claw Phone Post

Nice cop out. Anyways this will likely never happen since the pitchforks go away once connected people get mentioned. Still it would have been nice to see everyone mobilize and get passionate about someone that is actually damaging the sport.
Are you that fucking stupid? Have you not seen the tons of LI threads that have popped up the past few days? You're saying that yet another one is needed? How is he ripping off students? He has tons of guys winning at the highest levels. If you want to attack him because of the recent happenings, there are tons of threads where you can do so. Those of us on here are interested in laughing at/outing fake fighters, which has nothing to do with LI. No one answered your first troll attempt because it was so fucking stupid. You should have taken the hint then tard. Phone Post

Nope, what I'm saying is that you guys like to gang up on these borderline retards. But in the past when anyone even moderately connected comes up everyone shuts their mouths. This isn't for honor, this is for fun. Yeah there are tons of LI threads, and even a website. Most of which are getting deleted and ignored by most of the people that like to stand on their soapboxes when one of these threads gets started. Students winning in the past hasn't been an excuse in the past, why should it be now? Also people have called LI's system a scam in the past and have heavily criticized him for what he does even outside the rape stuff. What I'm pointing out is that if protecting BJJ is what you guys are really about then LI should be the type of people you should be attacking. But like you said this is all really for the lol's regardless of how indignant some of you get when someone questions you.

As one of the guys involved in this thread, I just want to voice my opinion on some of the issues you brought up.

Characterizing these frauds as "borderline retards" is disingenuous. Using Mayone as an example - he has the means and knowledge to either commission or design websites, to run a construction business for a long period of time (one that has generated at least 2 complaints from the Better Business Bureau), and -as some UG'ers have pointed out- he has managed to shut down our lines of communication to him while still keeping his lines of communication open. He is not an unintelligent man. (just his sense of humor tells us that) However, he is apparently mentally unstable. In my mind, that makes the idea of him attempting to teach martial arts even MORE dangerous!

But,as I said in a post earlier, his site is now down and it doesn't seem likely that he is actually teaching.

1/17/13 6:00 PM
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Honestly, to anyone up in arms about the TLI mess, or to anyone who is rightfully enraged by the details of that story, much as I am... I'd hope that in a time like this, we could all come to this thread and have a few laughs. At a time like this, we should all be grateful for the comic relief Sensei Iron Claw is providing us with. In all seriousness- I read the threads about TLI, and often leave the thread feeling depressed and disgusted. Then I come here and the newest ramblings from the man we know simply as Sensei Iron Claw haven't failed to put a smile on my face yet. Times are rough right now, the news coming from that story is absolutely sickening... we can afford some comic-relief around here- and I thank mmaguy, sideshowsteve, and everyone else who has contributed a funny line to this thread for providing it. Phone Post

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