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1/17/13 4:32 AM
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Lebron would be a big heavy

Imagine a prime Shaq had he spent all his time throwing punches instead of dunking.
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1/17/13 4:58 AM
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gamer - Haha to most Americans, some one like LeBron is a super indestructable human who can leap buildings and who can catch bullets with his teeth

Just ridiculous

Why are Americans this retarded?



Ahhh here lies the truth in why this guy is so anti-football/basketball. I'm assuming he is British due to talk of soccer translating so well. People may think Lebron could transition to MMA well because he is 6'8, 250lbs, fast as hell, and built like a tank.

And are you really trying to argue soccer players would do better in MMA? Are you honestly joking? Look, I watch a lot of soccer, especially the epl, as well as nba, and nfl. Soccer players have great cardio but are no where near as physically gifted as NFL or NBA players. They are also some of the biggest floppers in all of athletic competition. That environment translates IN NO WAY to MMA. The biggest guys on the field are usually the CB's and they are rarely more than 200 lbs. Look at the NFL with guys like Patrick Willis, James Harrison, Leron Landry ext. They are built to fuck people up. Obviously they have no MMA training, but why would being in the NFL stop them from learning?

Also your statements about different types of cardio working is nonsense. They are professional athletes. They train cardio, as it is THEIR JOB. They get cut if they can't keep up, and as your are from Britain, you obviously don't watch much NFL, and realize how much fucking stamina it takes to play at the level they do.

Also, you still don't see how the footwork in the NFL or NBA would translate? Please explain to me how the footwork of passing a ball around would help more than that of keeping your feet while being blocked?

You British people always seem to have to resort to "Oh, American's are so stupid, blah blah blah." JUST BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT. Don't try to act like you are on some pedestal, because you are using the same old points over and over, and can't resort to anything else.
1/17/13 5:05 AM
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Some of you guys are so brainwashed by MMA oops (UFC), Im literally nearly crying laughing at some of your posts.

Alot of UFC fighters today in the UFC are terrible athletes and couldnt make EVER make it to the NBA, NFL.

Now alot of NBA players and NFl players could transition to MMA fairly easy. Im guessing most of you sit on your computer and never competed in football or basketball at any level. Basketball= Supreme footwork over anyone, Football = Tackling rag dolling kids to the ground.

For god sake brendon SCHUAB HAHAH was knocking dudes out in the UFC easily. you dont think Patrick Willis wouldnt KO a dude in 1 punch? LOL Lebron James if he trained MMA for 2 years would be a dominate force.

"takes skill to get punched in the head" No it doesnt Its a matter of you can take it or not, and most can take it and has to do with some luck also. 1 day you dont get KO'ed, 1 day you could get KO'ed. Most UFC fighters are not great athletes, they are just training 24 7, on super supplements, HGH, and its so funny you guys HEX Josh barnette from MMA , when its already proven, 90 percent of MMA fighters, use PED/HGH.

Laughable
1/17/13 5:08 AM
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btw, Big Nikola Pekovic would rag doll most UFC heavyweights right now.

He lifts more then any UFC HW, his head is bigger then a moose and hes a fcking house, barely can be moved. and he has good agility for a 6-11 285 pound dude.

now with a few years training, Could be a champion easily.


But i dont expect most brainless MMA fans to know anything about the NBA,NFL,MLB or any real sports. you just follow dana white and joe rogan and talk to your little boyfriends about it.

I remember when i was 18 and so naive to the UFC , so i dont blame you all i guess. You will learn in time
1/17/13 5:08 AM
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<blockquote>FedorFalconPunch - Some of you guys are so brainwashed by MMA oops (UFC), Im literally nearly crying laughing at some of your posts.<br /><br />Alot of UFC fighters today in the UFC are terrible athletes and couldnt make EVER make it to the NBA, NFL.<br /><br />Now alot of NBA players and NFl players could transition to MMA fairly easy. Im guessing most of you sit on your computer and never competed in football or basketball at any level. Basketball= Supreme footwork over anyone, Football = Tackling rag dolling kids to the ground.<br /><br />For god sake brendon SCHUAB HAHAH was knocking dudes out in the UFC easily. you dont think Patrick Willis wouldnt KO a dude in 1 punch? LOL Lebron James if he trained MMA for 2 years would be a dominate force.<br /><br />"takes skill to get punched in the head" No it doesnt Its a matter of you can take it or not, and most can take it and has to do with some luck also. 1 day you dont get KO'ed, 1 day you could get KO'ed. Most UFC fighters are not great athletes, they are just training 24 7, on super supplements, HGH, and its so funny you guys HEX Josh barnette from MMA , when its already proven, 90 percent of MMA fighters, use PED/HGH.<br /><br />Laughable</blockquote><br /> Exactly! Not to mention Matt Mitrione, and Herschel Walker have also made the transition pretty smoothly.

EDIT: Agree with the first part, second seems a bit extreme
1/17/13 5:10 AM
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and btw, You'll never see these HIGH LEVEL athletes transtion to "MMA", that you get paid basically nothing.

They make more in 1 game of basketball/football then a MMA fighters makes in his lifetime.

And they dont get punched in the head and have severe brain damage guarenteed , yes NFL they could but its safer now.

No matter what your making basically nothing in MMA to get punched,kicked in the knees, liver for what 20k/20k to win?

LOL LOL. Most MMA fighters fight to survive in the real world cause its only thing they think they can do to feed there families, Everyone of them that did it "for fun", is lying and quits the sport as soon as they get laid out
1/17/13 5:13 AM
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Mitrione was a absolutely terrible NFL player and so was Brendon Schuabboy, they were the worst of the worst.

You guys think GSP is the best ahtlete ever and he runs like a female and really is just an above average athlete, but not a true fighter in ANY way, scared to get hit, scared to fight.

But still a dominate UFC champion?

All your arguements are dead. "BUT HE DID KARATE"

LOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOL

1/17/13 5:16 AM
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No offense I could careless if you agree or not, I know how the MMA world works.

Your body cant physically train all the time without taking steroids/HGH/ and that bullshit.

Ive never taken it, I got jacked cause im somewhat a genetic freak and good athlete, but if i was trying to be a MMA world champion and needed money to pay bills.

Im 99 percent sure my trainers would convince me to take HGH/Steroids cause they all do, its only way you can heal up during training and continue to train.

Science Bro.

Or you can just be Dan Hendo, Sonnen,FOrrest and be a "TRT" Patient. oops and Frank Mir.

You know MMA is completely corrupt when dudes bodies burn out and then they take TRT to be a 20 year old dude with the knowledge of a 40 year old. Not fair in anyway, but yet again..who cares.

I just want to see Ubereem Knee some dudes in the face and dam near kill them

forever, I miss you Fedor. the only true fighter with super athletic abililty and a true fighters heart
1/17/13 5:17 AM
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gamer - ^ i have backed up my arguments

Go back and read some of my posts you reatrded douch bag

Funny how you choose to respond to that post intead of all the other posts where I made my points etc

Look, I am not British, but sorry i dont have the same ignornat views of the world as you do

U.S.A!!! U.S.A!!!! #1!!!!

Is that better for you!

As for this:

"People may think Lebron could transition to MMA well because he is 6'8, 250lbs, fast as hell, and built like a tank^ I have backed up all my arguments"



LOL

Ive seen Lebron throw a punch. He literally punches like a little girl. Its pathetic

Plus I bet you he has a weak chin and would have no HEART once fists were flying at his face or once he gets hit

Fighters are FIGHTERS, NOT prissly American ATHLETES 


Americans say that about Lebron becausse they are delusional and dont have a clue, thats including you

Lebron is great at basketball because he dedicated his whole life to putting a ball through a hoop

The act of fighting IS COMBAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING SO MUCH MORE difficult then ANY American show sports






Hey Gamer, I dont need to read your posts cause i already know your a MMA fanboy moron.

and Lebron would break your jaw in 1 punch with his girly punches.

Actually you'd turn your back and run for your life the second he got mad.
1/17/13 5:18 AM
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My buddy knocked out 3 kids wearing UFC shirts 1 week ago and is going to jail for 3 years cause the kids started the fight , then all 3 got knocked out and sued him and cried there eyes out in the court claiming emotional damage.

This is what i expect from 99 percent of MMA fans.

True Story
1/17/13 5:20 AM
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and not all Americans chant USA USA USA, I think its pretty fcking pathetic.

Im italian/irish and I only support Fedor.

Is Fedor American? No, most fighters I respect arent american and im from "THE USA".

So keep judging the fat rednecks or skinny emo kids that watch UFC and think thats what all americans are like you pussy british fag
1/17/13 5:22 AM
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oops or are you from that Seattle UFC crew that all took pictures with Dana white and all look like creatures.

I know why these forums are filled with pathetic virgins, you all look like literal freak shows, I truely feel bad for all you.

Hopefully you get rich and get buy some happiness at one point at life.

MMA= Ultimate Fickle Fans.

"I hate nick the tooth, he ruins my videoblogs"

Fags like you should all get knocked out and cry
1/17/13 5:22 AM
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gamer - ^ i have backed up my arguments

Go back and read some of my posts you reatrded douch bag

Funny how you choose to respond to that post intead of all the other posts where I made my points etc

Look, I am not British, but sorry i dont have the same ignornat views of the world as you do

U.S.A!!! U.S.A!!!! #1!!!!

Is that better for you!

As for this:

"People may think Lebron could transition to MMA well because he is 6'8, 250lbs, fast as hell, and built like a tank^ I have backed up all my arguments"



LOL

Ive seen Lebron throw a punch. He literally punches like a little girl. Its pathetic

Plus I bet you he has a weak chin and would have no HEART once fists were flying at his face or once he gets hit

Fighters are FIGHTERS, NOT prissly American ATHLETES 


Americans say that about Lebron becausse they are delusional and dont have a clue, thats including you

Lebron is great at basketball because he dedicated his whole life to putting a ball through a hoop

The act of fighting IS COMBAT AND THAT IS SOMETHING SO MUCH MORE difficult then ANY American show sports






First of all, you avoided every single question in my post. And Lebron may not know how to punch like an MMA fighter, you know why? HE HASN'T FUCKING TRAINED. Which is what we are talking about. Athletes that could transition from their sport to MMA. That would require them learning the basics of fighting MMA.

Second, you obviously have some problem, because you are sterotyping all Americans the same. The "USA" chant is having pride in our country, not saying we are better than anyone else.

Also, you saying "I bet you he has a weak chin and would have no HEART once fists were flying at his face or once he gets hit" is NO ARGUMENT WHAT SO EVER. Nobody gives a shit what you bet, that holds about as much truth as me saying "LEBRON WOULD KNOCK EVERYONE OUT."


Lastly just to make you look like a complete idiot, Al Harrington took up MMA to stay active during the lockout last year. Here's a video on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYasKhqeuo

Can he not punch either?
1/17/13 5:23 AM
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gamer - Haha to most Americans, some one like LeBron is a super indestructable human who can leap buildings and who can catch bullets with his teeth

Just ridiculous

Why are Americans this retarded?



Ahhh here lies the truth in why this guy is so anti-football/basketball. I'm assuming he is British due to talk of soccer translating so well. People may think Lebron could transition to MMA well because he is 6'8, 250lbs, fast as hell, and built like a tank.

And are you really trying to argue soccer players would do better in MMA? Are you honestly joking? Look, I watch a lot of soccer, especially the epl, as well as nba, and nfl. Soccer players have great cardio but are no where near as physically gifted as NFL or NBA players. They are also some of the biggest floppers in all of athletic competition. That environment translates IN NO WAY to MMA. The biggest guys on the field are usually the CB's and they are rarely more than 200 lbs. Look at the NFL with guys like Patrick Willis, James Harrison, Leron Landry ext. They are built to fuck people up. Obviously they have no MMA training, but why would being in the NFL stop them from learning?

Also your statements about different types of cardio working is nonsense. They are professional athletes. They train cardio, as it is THEIR JOB. They get cut if they can't keep up, and as your are from Britain, you obviously don't watch much NFL, and realize how much fucking stamina it takes to play at the level they do.

Also, you still don't see how the footwork in the NFL or NBA would translate? Please explain to me how the footwork of passing a ball around would help more than that of keeping your feet while being blocked?

You British people always seem to have to resort to "Oh, American's are so stupid, blah blah blah." JUST BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT. Don't try to act like you are on some pedestal, because you are using the same old points over and over, and can't resort to anything else.
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1/17/13 5:24 AM
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Yea GSP is such a good fighter, he hasnt finished 1 of his last what 7 fights?

Every fighter he 5 round decision'd was Knocked out or Submited few fights before they fought GSP.

So its not like they were unbeatable and untouchable.

GSP is a GOOD fighter, who is a GOOD athlete, who just does what he can to get the paycheck and win.

Cant blame the guy, he isnt a fighters fighter, doesnt get KO's anymore and is 1 step out the door once he falls on his face, possibly to Diaz funny as that is
1/17/13 5:26 AM
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and im not hating on GSP, IF i was him, I'd do the same thing.

Just hold the dude down, barely touch him, win no matter what on judges scorecard, get my 5 million dollars and live my life doing what i want.

He doesnt have to put on entertaining fights cause people like him for there own weird reasons besides fighting.

Respect to GSP, I hope he 5 round decisions until the world ends, but i wont pay for any fights anymore anyway. So you can all be bored to death
1/17/13 5:28 AM
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Only entertaining moments in fights hes had since he got knocked out and left dead by Matt Serra, was getting head kicked by a lanky unathletic CARLOS CONDIT, LOL LOL LOL.

Condit dropped you bro with a weak foot kick, not shin.

GSP chin is absurdly weak, its kind of disturbing. I see girls who can take a punch better, and def arent scared as much.

But hes the P4P man holder, so its all gravy.

Have a good day salty losers
1/17/13 5:32 AM
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gamer - 
FedorFalconPunch - and not all Americans chant USA USA USA, I think its pretty fcking pathetic.

Im italian/irish and I only support Fedor.

Is Fedor American? No, most fighters I respect arent american and im from "THE USA".

So keep judging the fat rednecks or skinny emo kids that watch UFC and think thats what all americans are like you pussy british fag

Cool story

But im not bristih you dumb fuck!

P.s obnoxious niggas who watch the UFC are worse then any rednek haha. Give me 3 rednecks over that nigga any day.

Anyway, If you hero worship athletes like most Americans do, then you are a fucking pathetic watse of space

No naggars arent more annoying because they only know 1 fighter, "ANDERSON SILVA IS THE BEST FIGHTER"

I tell them, you morons hes Brazalian he aint even black.

and I dont think anyone worships "american athletes" they just like to be entertained.

And in my sake, I just bet huge amounts of cash on them because im a prodigy at odds making and sports betting, Athletes are just betting tools to me and cars and houses.

but maybe to some of you, you worship them but i highly doubt, just entertainment.

Ok i dont bet on Fedor, expect when i bet 1k on Werdum +1000 to beat him cause i knew Werdum trained for 1 year straight and fedor trained for 35 days.

I still hate myself alil bit for betting against the true Hero of MMA, but ill take the 10,000.

Moral of the story, Fedor > all of us
1/17/13 5:36 AM
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Talked to a few rednecks on xbox about MMA

"I dont know who Fedor is"

"I didnt start watching UFC until UFC 112"

thats the kind of people who fill these forums now.

"GSP is the baddest man on planet"


Its just these people arent educated in life and def not in MMA, so you cant blame them.

they just got sucked in to the sport to see good fights and now its about "CAGE CONTROL" "LAY N PRAYING" "CLINCH CONTROL"

Good old days are gone, for god sake Chael Sonnen is taking over MMA and he couldnt win a title in the WEC. dude is a B level fighter at best and fighting Jon Jones who cant even dunk a basketball.

Great athletes
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I can already guess you're a canadian bitch, goodnight
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1/17/13 5:44 AM
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gamer - "First of all, you avoided every single question in my post"

You NEVER answered any of the points I brought up in previous and more serious posts of mine

Instead you choose to answer to that one funny post of mine

Just lol

I dont have an obligation to respond to anything you say

You are fasley assuming im a british. You are going off on me for your assumptions

You have been enough of a tard.



Me assuming you were british had little to nothing to do with my post aside from your hate on americans. Go back to the last page! I did respond to one of your older posts, which you never responded to me on. But if all you can do is call me a "douch bag" and a "tard" and not respond to the points I'm making, than you obviously have a weak argument.

What are the points you have made?

-Other athletes don't have the heart of a champion like fighters do?

IfHerschel Walker, Brenden Schaub, and Matt Mitrione had it, why couldn't countless others?

-Football and Basketball won't help with any of the skills needed to be a fighter

Footwork is needed in both, as well as insane cardio for football. Balance is heavily needed in MMA, and is also incredibly important in football. ex blocking.

I literally read through all your posts, and could not find any other valid point that I haven't answered. If you would like to pose one for me, than go right ahead.

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gamer - "Also your statements about different types of cardio working is nonsense. They are professional athletes. They train cardio, as it is THEIR JOB. They get cut if they can't keep up"

Yeah because all those 300 pound lineman in the NFL who need an oxygen mask on the side limes have such great cardio

Football doesn't require the cardio MMA does. Not even by a long shot

Football players are able to "keep up" because their line of work only requires cardio for 10 seconds every other 10 minutes

When a football player is taught to explode for only 10 seconds at a time for all his life, that is going to stick, and it will be drilled into him.

Put that same "conditioned" NFL player in an MMA match and he gasses out within two minutes of the fight

The only way an NFL player has good cardio, is if he changes everything he has been taught by football, and adapts to the style and pace of MMA

Which would be highly unlikely considering he was coming from footbal and that his body had already been taught to go for 10 second explosive bursts and then rest etc

That just proves my point that being a good football player DOESN'T MAKE YOU a good FIGHTER

There is NFL cardio, AND THEN THERE IS MMA CARDIO. Its a world of differenece

Where are getting this 10 second burst, then a 10 minute rest? How does that even make any sense? They do plays over and over before there is a change of possession. An MMA fight is 15 minutes, or 25 minutes max. An NFL game has 60 game minutes, now its safe to assume one player is on the field for 30 minutes of actual game time. That's 30 minutes of someone who is trained to knock you over coming right for you and you having to keep them away. You obviously have never played football so you have NO IDEA how much cardio that requires.

And it's funny how you just mention lineman. There are WR's who have to run 40 yard routes on every one of those "10 second bursts" and they do this will someone is pushing them and trying to get them out of position.

Also as I said before, Brenden Schaub did it, Matt Mitrione did it, and Herschel Walker did it. These are NOWHERE NEAR as good as the best of the NFL, and they have been able to do it. It's safe to assume the best could do a little better.

Now if you would like to answer any of my points, go ahead, because I have been waiting for about 3 comments now.
1/17/13 6:08 AM
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gamer - "Also, you still don't see how the footwork in the NFL or NBA would translate?"

In basketball you are just dribbling a basketball with your hands and then shoot it into a tiny hoop

Again, that doesn't give you skills FOR MMA. Those motions and or skills are not applicable to MMA in any way shape or form

In soccer you are actually using your feet in a very cordinated manner. Dribilling a ball with your feet and running. That can corralte really well to having good footwork in MMA.

I mean if you want to say that any running you do durring a basketball or football game can help your footwork in MMA, then you might as well say that walking can help you to have good footwork in MMA too

In soccer it really applies and can help. Its more specific like.


There I answered the two dumbest points you brought up! Are you happy now

Please explain to me how dribbling a soccer ball while running gives equates to having good footwork in MMA?? Please! That might be the most ridiculous thing you have brought up, that LITERALLY has nothing to do with fighting at all. Posting up in basketball, and having to keep balance while someone is trying to push you back is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy more applicable than dribbling down a soccer pitch.

Please, tell me specifically how dribbling a soccer ball can help mma footwork?

I can't wait for this one.

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