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1/18/13 1:01 PM
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aint that a kick in the head - Posting a disrespectful video like that is an insult. I yolu cant understand something as simple as that I dont kow what to say. Its false, and full of inncorrect information. Its not interesting, its slanderous.

HOW do you know that retard? because tv told you? fucking jackass sheep

If you did any research on the video you would know it's been pretty much debunked. For example, anyone with any experience with guns could tell you right away that wasn't a Bushmaster rifle in the car. Real people on this forum know some of the victims. The vid asserts the parents of some of the kids interviewed on tv were actors. It also asserts one of the dead kids was actually very much alive and posed for a picture with Obama after the shooting. Both have been proven to be bullshit. Nothing in that video had any facts to back up the claims it made. Just a bunch of made up nonsense to hoodwink lazy imbeciles like you. "Derp, I question everything except fact less You Tube videos. Derp." Do some actual critical thinking yourself. Quit being a sheep.
Actually asshole I was sick that day lounging around the house and watching in horror as it unfolded.

You know what I saw...

On the news they said let's cut to some live video and they showed the cops pulling it out of the car so what's your NON Conspiracy theory?

Because if you would stop and think for a moment, If it was the Bushmaster if it wasn't doesn't matter. The fact is they did pull a rifle out of the car and they didn't report him having a second rifle.

So Logical intelligent people would have a few questions about that. First they said he had two handguns two days later it was three handguns a week later it was four handguns.

If it wasn't the Bushmaster that they pulled out of the car WTF was it and why is it not being documented?

Somebody the police media or both are not telling us the truth about how many weapons, what type of weapons and where the weapons were, I want to know why. Phone Post

Is your brain made of asbestos?

They pulled a shotgun out of the car. Shotguns are not rifles.

http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-rifle-and-shotgun/

They didn't report him having a second rifle because he didn't have a second rifle, but they did report him having a shotgun in the car. That report is fucking everywhere.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-lanza-guns/index.html

He brought three guns into the school with him: two handguns and a rifle. Nobody other than ignoramuses such as yourself dispute that. The twenty-four hour news cycle results in quite a bit of misinformation early on in situations like this. THAT'S the information that videos like this run with without any follow-up. And then they tell you not to trust the media, of course.
There is alot of stupid in your post, you can say I watched the video on YouTube but obviously your comprehension is lacking.

I was watching the news and I was commenting on the news that was reported the day of and the week of the s not the video. I feel they are accountable for the inaccuracies they reported if that's the case.

I haven't seen any account of a shotgun but I haven't sat down in front of a TV in a wile, I've had shit going on. I'm definitely going to go look into it when I get the chance.

As far is the "anyone can tell its a shotgun" bullshit, the video was rather short and the media was claiming it to be the Bushmaster.

Regardless Ronda did nothing wrong and if that video was debunked point by point and most of it really shouldn't have needed to be it was so poor but if so maybe its because of the publicity it got in some part by Ronda and others that re tweeted it, it probably actually helped put a spotlight on the video so that the issue was taken up.

Its never wrong to question what happened. I also think this whole conspiracy drama is the fault of the media and loose reporting. Phone Post

What planet are you from where you call someone who -- by your own admission -- has done far more research into this than you have "stupid"? And then, of course, you demonstrate that don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" while (not "wile") regurgitating the UG classic about reading comprehension. Incredible.

I'll repeat myself: "The twenty-four hour news cycle results in quite a bit of misinformation early on in situations like this." They should be accountable for the inaccuracies they reported and they are. They have since corrected themselves, but you very conveniently have not followed-up on any of this, otherwise you would know. Your willful ignorance does not equal a government conspiracy. You refused to follow-up on these "inconsistencies", and that's on you. You say you'll look into it "when I get the chance", but you're here arguing your own stupidity on the Internet rather than doing any sort of research. I even provided you with a link to a CNN article which breaks down the weapons used.

Now I know you're getting your information from the "Sandy Hook Exposed" video when you say that the video -- shot from a helicopter -- showing police removing the shotgun from the trunk of the car is "short". Here's twenty-five seconds of of that video (taken from a conspiracy channel, nonetheless):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc

At no point do these newscasters refer to it as a Bushmaster or even a rifle. You say that the nebulous "media" claimed it was the Bushmaster, yet here is the "media", referring to it as a "long gun". The video is shaky and shot from a distance, but you can clearly see that this is a shotgun.

It's never wrong to question anything, but it's downright inexcusable to look for the answers. And that's what you're admitting to doing.
Bah I'm not going to argue with you, I already stated I was talking specifically about the media not the video more than once if you can't understand that its not my issue.

And the media is completely accountable for what they put out regardless of the timing they have a responsibility to make sure that their information is accurate.

I watched it for about a week then shut it off, the entire time there was no mention of a shotgun and the media reported complete inaccuracies so yes I think they are a big part of the problem. Phone Post
1/18/13 1:07 PM
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aint that a kick in the head - Posting a disrespectful video like that is an insult. I yolu cant understand something as simple as that I dont kow what to say. Its false, and full of inncorrect information. Its not interesting, its slanderous.

HOW do you know that retard? because tv told you? fucking jackass sheep

My mother in law was the principal. Im not going to sit back while people spew nonsense.

So I think Im pretty qualified to speak on the facts of the case.
Don't be such a cunt, your mother in laws the principal so now you're some kind of expert on the incident?

My wife's a nurse but I don't think that makes me a surgeon. Phone Post

"Dont be such a cunt?"

I certainly didnt resort to name calling like you? I lose someone, come on here to speak against the nonsense that fighters are posting and you call me a cunt? Im going to put you in my prayers tonight.

and yes I am an expert on this.

Sorry for your lose

I have to apologize and stop skimming posts I'm so sorry and don't know what else to say.

The difference between "is" and "was" IS Pretty fucking big.

Man... I'm so sorry for insulting you and for your loss. Phone Post

No problem, thank you though
1/18/13 1:18 PM
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Uchi - Im sure she meant no harm. That being said, perhaps the UFC should invest in providing some guidance to new fighters on their roster in the appropriate use of social media. It blows my mind the disconnect that some pro athletes and celebrities have when it comes to saying dumb shit to the world and understanding the consequences of doing so as a public figure.

What the fuck are you talking about! It's not like she's making rape jokes (griffin and torres) she's expressing her real thoughts on twitter. Real "disconnect" (that blows your mind) would be celebrities who proffit from voilent films and then turns around takes part in anti gun psa's.

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UGSlapshot, I already told you that misinformation is extremely common in the twenty-four hour news cycle. If you're taking something that you hear early on as a story develops as gospel and then refuse to follow-up on that information, that makes you lazy, an ignoramus, or both. As long as the twenty-four hour news cycle exists and news programs compete for your attention, misinformation will make it out there. You have a responsibility to make sure that what you're hearing is accurate, either by researching other sources or by sticking around long enough, after the smoke clears, to find out what really happened. You haven't done that while more reasonable people have, myself included.

It's 100% unmitigated bullshit that there was no mention of a shotgun within the week following the shooting.

The shotgun is mentioned here, in an article from the 19th:

http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-19/news/hc-lanza-ghost-20121219_1_home-computer-investigators-video-games

Here's one from the 16th, which is only two days after the shooting:

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/national/ar-15-with-high-capacity-magazines-used-by-adam-lanza-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting

Another one from the 16th:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/school-shooter-adam-lanza_n_2312818.html

Even better, you can run a custom search for mentions of "Adam Lanza" and "shotgun" between the 14th (the day of the shooting) and the 15th:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22adam+lanza%22+%26+shotgun&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=772&sa=X&ei=r5D5UNWSF_S30QHwu4HQAw&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F14%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F15%2F2012&tbm=

You can see mentions of the shotgun found in the trunk as well as media outlets correcting earlier statements made in regards to what was found at the scene.

"Open your eyes" as your type would say.
1/18/13 2:38 PM
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octowussy - UGSlapshot, I already told you that misinformation is extremely common in the twenty-four hour news cycle. If you're taking something that you hear early on as a story develops as gospel and then refuse to follow-up on that information, that makes you lazy, an ignoramus, or both. As long as the twenty-four hour news cycle exists and news programs compete for your attention, misinformation will make it out there. You have a responsibility to make sure that what you're hearing is accurate, either by researching other sources or by sticking around long enough, after the smoke clears, to find out what really happened. You haven't done that while more reasonable people have, myself included.

It's 100% unmitigated bullshit that there was no mention of a shotgun within the week following the shooting.

The shotgun is mentioned here, in an article from the 19th:

http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-19/news/hc-lanza-ghost-20121219_1_home-computer-investigators-video-games

Here's one from the 16th, which is only two days after the shooting:

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/national/ar-15-with-high-capacity-magazines-used-by-adam-lanza-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting

Another one from the 16th:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/school-shooter-adam-lanza_n_2312818.html

Even better, you can run a custom search for mentions of "Adam Lanza" and "shotgun" between the 14th (the day of the shooting) and the 15th:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22adam+lanza%22+%26+shotgun&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=772&sa=X&ei=r5D5UNWSF_S30QHwu4HQAw&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F14%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F15%2F2012&tbm=

You can see mentions of the shotgun found in the trunk as well as media outlets correcting earlier statements made in regards to what was found at the scene.

"Open your eyes" as your type would say.
Listen carefully so that maybe this time you can understand ... maybe.

I never called the shooting a hoax or a conspiracy, you said that I did but that's just a fallacy.

At the same time you're trying to chastise me for not having enough information to make an informed judgement, but you can't even read a tweet and understand it.

Just because you can find the shotgun info from whatever news source doesn't mean that that's what was being reported here and I don't watch news stations like fox news or cnn because they've never had their shit together.

Again you are the one being misleading, I never said that I had all the information or had even made a judgment, I said that someone misrepresented what happened, and they did.

I also didn't say every media outlet made the same errors, I assumed you would be smart enough to know that I was talking specifically about the broadcasts I watched not every broadcast available that I didn't watch...

The point I'm trying to make is not that I'm positive there was a conspiracy that was never my opinion but you claimed it was.

I'm saying Ronda has every right to have questions about how it was handled and what happened.

I'm not defending the video or her supposed theory because she didn't claim one.

I don't accept your excuses for the media period.

I don't believe for one second just because she posted link and said its interesting that she believed that it was a hoax, that would be jumping to conclusions more so than I have in this thread, something many in this thread seem more than willing to do.

I mean you want to talk about people making assumptions? That's a big assumption right there. Phone Post
1/18/13 2:42 PM
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Lol. No reason to apologize to a bunch of thin-skinned cunts. But, whatever. Good for them.
1/18/13 3:03 PM
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octowussy - UGSlapshot, I already told you that misinformation is extremely common in the twenty-four hour news cycle. If you're taking something that you hear early on as a story develops as gospel and then refuse to follow-up on that information, that makes you lazy, an ignoramus, or both. As long as the twenty-four hour news cycle exists and news programs compete for your attention, misinformation will make it out there. You have a responsibility to make sure that what you're hearing is accurate, either by researching other sources or by sticking around long enough, after the smoke clears, to find out what really happened. You haven't done that while more reasonable people have, myself included.

It's 100% unmitigated bullshit that there was no mention of a shotgun within the week following the shooting.

The shotgun is mentioned here, in an article from the 19th:

http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-19/news/hc-lanza-ghost-20121219_1_home-computer-investigators-video-games

Here's one from the 16th, which is only two days after the shooting:

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/national/ar-15-with-high-capacity-magazines-used-by-adam-lanza-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting

Another one from the 16th:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/school-shooter-adam-lanza_n_2312818.html

Even better, you can run a custom search for mentions of "Adam Lanza" and "shotgun" between the 14th (the day of the shooting) and the 15th:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22adam+lanza%22+%26+shotgun&hl=en&biw=1440&bih=772&sa=X&ei=r5D5UNWSF_S30QHwu4HQAw&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F14%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F15%2F2012&tbm=

You can see mentions of the shotgun found in the trunk as well as media outlets correcting earlier statements made in regards to what was found at the scene.

"Open your eyes" as your type would say.
Listen carefully so that maybe this time you can understand ... maybe.

I never called the shooting a hoax or a conspiracy, you said that I did but that's just a fallacy.

At the same time you're trying to chastise me for not having enough information to make an informed judgement, but you can't even read a tweet and understand it.

Just because you can find the shotgun info from whatever news source doesn't mean that that's what was being reported here and I don't watch news stations like fox news or cnn because they've never had their shit together.

Again you are the one being misleading, I never said that I had all the information or had even made a judgment, I said that someone misrepresented what happened, and they did.

I also didn't say every media outlet made the same errors, I assumed you would be smart enough to know that I was talking specifically about the broadcasts I watched not every broadcast available that I didn't watch...

The point I'm trying to make is not that I'm positive there was a conspiracy that was never my opinion but you claimed it was.

I'm saying Ronda has every right to have questions about how it was handled and what happened.

I'm not defending the video or her supposed theory because she didn't claim one.

I don't accept your excuses for the media period.

I don't believe for one second just because she posted link and said its interesting that she believed that it was a hoax, that would be jumping to conclusions more so than I have in this thread, something many in this thread seem more than willing to do.

I mean you want to talk about people making assumptions? That's a big assumption right there. Phone Post

What tweet did I read and not understand? Ronda's "interesting video" tweet? Because I definitely never commented on it. Find where I chastised her for this or commented on anything other than the content of the video itself or her manager's stupid press release and I'll PayPal you fifty bucks right now. I never said she didn't have the right to link to it and I'm actually glad that she did because it helps cement the fact that she's a fucking bonehead.

I don't know what was being reported "here" because I don't know where "here" is for you. We're not roommates. I do know what was and is being reported by national media as well as a number of goofy conspiracy sites. You wouldn't even know what's being reported "here" now because you admit that you haven't watched the news since. Or read a paper. Or the Internet, I guess.

You originally asked a bunch of dog-stupid questions which were answered by the police and the media within hours of the shooting. You, by your own admission, did not follow-up on the easy answers to these questions... but yet you asked them anyway, long after they've all been answered. You've managed to cling to a bunch of information that you got over a month ago from mystery sources and haven't bothered to follow-up. Now they've being given to you and you have zero interest in accepting them because you'd much rather remain totally ignorant. It's actually kind of crazy to think that in the five weeks since that shooting, you're still so fucking clueless. That's seriously a major accomplishment. So... congratulations?
1/18/13 3:30 PM
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I still don't get how famous people do things or say things, or act in a certain way like it's no big deal. Then when the masses get upset at what you did, you get a manager or PR person to stand up for your actions?

When I do something wrong, I have to answer for it, not some manager.

I am not saying I agree or disagree with what she did, just the fact her manager makes this statement and not her makes me sick.
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Well, you can take the trash out of the trailer park, but you.....

 

Nevermind


this from a guy named 'sugar dick'

an employee of filtyy floyd's nasty tees.

pot, meet kettle.
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Dazednconfused -  You know what's funny. Even if the conspiracy was right and it was an inside job, most Americans wouldn't even take a look at it or give it a chance because you are so close minded Phone Post

end thread.

americans get the leaders and celebrities that they deserve.
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What in the hell does she have to apologize for?

 

She found a video interesting and tweeted it.  Why should anyone ever have to apologize for that!?

 

What the fuck is wrong with you faggots?  

 

Did she offend your delicate sensibilities with something she found interesting and posted on her twitter?

Yeah, she should just shut up and never have an opinion on anything ever again and never think anything ever again and just pander to us pieces of shit.

 

You faggots disgust me.

 

Rock on Rhonda and fuck the haters.  Think what you want and post what you want.  

 

Don't get sucked into this 'I can only think what the public might like' bullshit and become another faggot please.

 

-A fan

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB-LtHycKGk

^ WTF..

1/18/13 6:25 PM
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UGSlapshot - <blockquote>MachidasStraightLeft - <p><br /> You don't say that kind of shit when 6 year old children are involved.  She's a grown woman, and as a very well known figure in MMA she has a responsibility to be more respectful.</p></blockquote>

You don't say what shit? Obviously you don't have a clue what she said because all she said was that it was interesting, she didn't say if she felt just one or two aspects were interesting or if she believed the entire video was or even in what way she found it intriguing. She didn't say she believed that the shooting was a hoax or anything she's being accused of saying.

Her manager did however go on to explain the exact part she found "interesting" IE questionable and it had nothing to do with the hoax allegations.

He said she was talking about the conflicting story's about the rifle and how it was supposedly in two places at once.

Fuck man some people make up reality as they want it to be and I see a lot of them talking shit here.

It was also clear he hadn't seen the video and therefore had to get his information from someone, most likely Ronda.

<img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/><br /><br /><br />
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To be fair, her manager said he hadn't talked to her.

"He said he hadn't recently spoken to Rousey (6-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC), who's in training camp to defend her belt against Liz Carmouche (7-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC) in a historic headliner next month at UFC 157. But he speculated she didn't realize the extent of the controversy surrounding the video when she forwarded it."

So he never said what part Ronda found interesting, he was just speculating.
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1/18/13 6:35 PM
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I mean no disrespect when I say Ronda is a cunt Phone Post
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uGjqW94iFs

 

Go back to Sleep.

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Fuck her. Phone Post
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1/18/13 11:04 PM
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UGSlapshot - <blockquote>MachidasStraightLeft - <p><br /> You don't say that kind of shit when 6 year old children are involved.  She's a grown woman, and as a very well known figure in MMA she has a responsibility to be more respectful.</p></blockquote>

You don't say what shit? Obviously you don't have a clue what she said because all she said was that it was interesting, she didn't say if she felt just one or two aspects were interesting or if she believed the entire video was or even in what way she found it intriguing. She didn't say she believed that the shooting was a hoax or anything she's being accused of saying.

Her manager did however go on to explain the exact part she found "interesting" IE questionable and it had nothing to do with the hoax allegations.

He said she was talking about the conflicting story's about the rifle and how it was supposedly in two places at once.

Fuck man some people make up reality as they want it to be and I see a lot of them talking shit here.

It was also clear he hadn't seen the video and therefore had to get his information from someone, most likely Ronda.

<img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/><br /><br /><br />
This Phone Post

To be fair, her manager said he hadn't talked to her.

"He said he hadn't recently spoken to Rousey (6-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC), who's in training camp to defend her belt against Liz Carmouche (7-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC) in a historic headliner next month at UFC 157. But he speculated she didn't realize the extent of the controversy surrounding the video when she forwarded it."

So he never said what part Ronda found interesting, he was just speculating.
So not even her manager knows her opinion but the tards in this thread do right?

To be fair.. Phone Post
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Doctor NPD - She meant no disrespect to the victims by saying the entire thing was a hoax? What'd she expect the reaction would be? Poor Torres couldn't even quote a television show on Twitter without getting cut and Rousey gets away with this?

Ronda never said she personally thought it was a hoax, all she said was that the video of people claiming to have proof was interesting.

By posting it without something like "LOL this is ridiculous" and saying she thought it was interesting, she isn't exactly condemning it either though.

Look what Torres did to his with a few tweets referencing a TV show. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when Rousey posts things that would send this place into chaos if somebody like GSP said it. Even if what she says is horrifying! If, tomorrow, she tells the press that, like, the Holocaust, or any tragedy is a hoax, nobody panics, because it's all "part of her game." But when Torres says something about a rape van, well then everyone loses their minds!

Nobody cared about what Torres said except Dana effin' White, and even if they did act irrationally back then, it doesn't mean we should act irrationally now. And why should Ronda condemn the video? She feels it raises some good questions. If she posted a video that questioned the veracity of the Holocaust, it would be no different. You can't personally verify what happened at Sandy Hook and you can't personally verify what happened during the Holocaust. You've CHOSEN what you WANT to believe, and whether what you've chosen is ultimately correct, you should acknowledge the fact that you don't actually KNOW.

Wise men know they know nothing at all.
1/19/13 12:01 AM
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Was that obnoxious bullshit really posted by someone named "mrknowitall"?

"you can't personally verify what happened during the Holocaust"

No, but Holocaust survivors can.
1/19/13 12:02 AM
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Again, if Ronda believes that particular video raises good questions, then she's a fucking idiot, plain and simple.
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She doesn't "take everything at face value"...except Youtube "documentaries" that have been thoroughly debunked.


^This. Lmfao. She's not very bright.
1/20/13 5:28 AM
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Here just some info so people know where conspiracy theorist are coming from

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2012/08/25/while-you-were-asleep-the-story-of-the-2012-revolution-by-hopegirl/

I didn't read all of it but it's interesting reading Phone Post

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