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1/20/13 3:18 PM	Ignore \| Quote \| Edit \| Warn Admin \| Vote Down \| Vote Up \| Delete Post
TheGoldenRule 22 Member Since: 12/11/08 Posts: 2564	Mad respect for Ryan Hall You have ignored this user.

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ATAP 1 Member Since: 4/22/11 Posts: 45	"I hope someone tapes this letter to Marcos Avellan's forehead" yea, with a stapler. While they're at it, they should probably include a dictionary.. some serious words used in there. You have ignored this user.

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1/21/13 6:48 AM

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Stipe

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ultimatestreetfighter - too long, didn't read the whole thing.

i was hoping that ryan would give DETAILS about the shady stuff lloyd was doing to make him leave the team. but instead he opted to remain vague. what a letdown.

I must say I, too, don't mind hearing the actual facts about actual events. Putting in a few of those paints a better picture.

His letter omitted that.

1/21/13 12:37 PM

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ArthurKnoqOut 57 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Open Mat Radio -
We urge everyone to take a few minutes of their time and read this extremely important letter by Ryan Hall to the martial arts community. Please read, reflect on what Ryan has to say and please share this. We need to help bring light back to our community and this is an amazing step in that direction. Much respect to Ryan for being brave and posting it. It is too lengthy to post so please read it all here

http://livingthemartialarts.com/

that was beautiful and eloquently written! Ryan is a real martial artist!

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GrahamJ Member Since: 1/11/13 Posts: 73	The arrogance of people is astounding! I personally know people who have illegally downloaded music, who have the temerity to call Hitler a bad guy...and now this! The hypocrisy of people is unbelievable...'let he who is without sin', and all that kind, good-natured, pacifist-type stuff Marcos Avellan obviously practices in his personal and professional lives. You have ignored this user.

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Loser Born Natural 1097 Member Since: 10/14/10 Posts: 8572	Impressive piece of writing. You have ignored this user.

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GrahamJ Member Since: 1/11/13 Posts: 76	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4CM-nIBoo0 You have ignored this user.

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1/22/13 5:33 PM

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sloppy2nds 12 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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Holy shit, he words real good too!

Seriously though, worth the time to read.

And for those who thinks he might be making unfair assumptions, I've experienced a few TLI seminars.

They had one gentlemen selling his management secrets series. The guy actually talked about how he was inspired by Machiavelli's "The Prince"...a famous play not written to be a blue print, but rather to expose the evil of Medici Family, who he believed to be entirely corrupt and ruthless power mongers

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1/22/13 8:38 PM

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fishyfish 3 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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one person's evil, corrupt and ruthless power monger is another person's idea of success.

success demands sacrifice.

it's a shame that our species is nowhere near doing it without "cracking a lot of eggs".

humanity is definitely the most f***ed up species.

of course it is our duty to foster a healthier society, and that demands that we encourage good behaviour, and discourage bad behaviour.

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MurdochIRL 16 Member Since: 5/25/05 Posts: 5241	It gets better the more you read it too. You have ignored this user.

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MurdochIRL 16 Member Since: 5/25/05 Posts: 5252	It's still not too late to ask for this to be on the front page of MMA.tv! Please show some balanced reporting, if you're posting Lloyd's letter please post Ryan's as well! You have ignored this user.

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Open Mat Radio 24 Member Since: 1/2/12 Posts: 826	TTT for Ryan! It's up to us to spread the word of his site and letter. They also have a new Facebook page. Be sure to add it. You have ignored this user.

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jamesmonroe 2 Member Since: 1/22/13 Posts: 2	[Video] After that weak Ass Letter Lloyd Irvin Follows up with a explanation of what went Down in 1989: http://youtu.be/mU_63pTMcEU You have ignored this user.

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fishyfish 3 Member Since: 6/28/03 Posts: 6512	definitely harder to get it up in front of a bunch of people, never mind coming You have ignored this user.

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Open Mat Radio 24 Member Since: 1/2/12 Posts: 839	There's no reason that this shouldn't be at the top if there are still threads about negative things in jiu jitsu on the forums! You have ignored this user.

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GrahamJ Member Since: 1/11/13 Posts: 168	Agreed. It's creepy as fuck that this guy's still hanging in there. Is there any chance Cornelius will be leaving - or does it look like he's turned his back on his family, and human decency, in order to win sporting contests...? You have ignored this user.

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MurdochIRL 16 The total sum of your votes up and votes down

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GrahamJ - Agreed.
It's creepy as fuck that this guy's still hanging in there.

Is there any chance Cornelius will be leaving - or does it look like he's turned his back on his family, and human decency, in order to win sporting contests...?

Was hoping he'd make a break after the Europeans but it appears that Lloyd's hooks are deep. I think that he'll leave in the long run. Ryan, Fowler, Wilson Reis, Jared Weiner, Nakapan, Dominic Cruz and I believe Justin "Chim" Garcia have all left. If the people that have spent the most time with Lloyd have all left what do you think the future holds? Phone Post

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