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UnderGround Forum >> Ronda bashers - did you even watch the video?
| 1/22/13 1:01 PM | |
BJJWorkouts
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Member Since: 7/31/10 Posts: 304 |
I was on a flight to California when this happened. Virgin America has TV on their flights and I watched almost the entire time. The news did talk about a second person in the woods. They did interview a few people that saw the police bring another person out of the woods. I do think a lot of that video is BS but I witnessed those interviews myself. |
| 1/22/13 1:40 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2409 |
BJJWorkouts - I was on a flight to California when this happened. Virgin America has TV on their flights and I watched almost the entire time. Right. There was a second person in the woods. Nobody is denying that, just like nobody is denying that certain news outlets reported on that person. But the inquisitive will follow-up on that and discover that the "person in the woods" has been identified already and that it was not a second gunman. The stupid will suggest that it's indicative of some sort of conspiracy. |
| 1/22/13 2:22 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2410 |
Because the Russian government poisons a spy, the American government is going to murder twenty children so that they can reenact a fairly innocuous assault weapons ban that expired in 2004? Anyone who believes that any government is incapable of atrocities is naive, but anyone who believes that the US government was behind this (while planting clues in Batman films, of course!) despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary is an insane idiot and needs to be removed from the gene pool. |
| 1/22/13 2:43 PM | |
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Gunter Vogler
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Edited: 01/22/13 2:44 PM Member Since: 8/23/12 Posts: 123 |
"CLINTK9 - I dont know for sure what happened. all I know is I was getting emails from the NRA for the last 6 months saying get ready, the US is gonna do something so they can get the ball rolling on gun control." Yea, it's not like they do that EVERY election cycle a Democrat wins the presidency or take over the House/Senate. It's not like their fundraising relies on scaring paranoid, tinfoil hat fucktards or anything. You're very bright. |
| 1/22/13 2:58 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2411 |
Is CLINTK9 seriously implying that the NRA knew about Sandy Hook ahead of time? |
| 1/22/13 5:56 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2416 |
TryhardNobody -octowussy - Because the Russian government poisons a spy, the American government is going to murder twenty children so that they can reenact a fairly innocuous assault weapons ban that expired in 2004? Gun running operations (which have existed for quite some time and aren't a very well-kept secret), have nothing to do with Sandy Hook. Nice try, though. "There are a lot of things about Sandy Hook that don't make much sense" Only if you watch that video and accept that A) it's an accurate portrayal of what happened that day (it's not), B) it doesn't have an agenda (it does), C) don't understand and accept that misinformation is an unfortunate product of the twenty-four hour news cycle, D) have done any sort of legitimate follow-up outside of the Alex Jones circlejerk of insanity, and E) are an idiot. The questions this video poses are either moot or they've already been answered. The nurse, for example: the video makes the claim that the school nurse is nowhere to be found in the database of registered nurses. The video presents this as one of its great mysteries, but the fact of the matter is that the author of this video was searching for the wrong person. This is the kind of lazy research that you're getting these fucking questions from. People don't trust the nebulous media enough to give them the very real, very easy answers to these questions, but they trust that these questions are even legitimate. I suppose that there are a select group of nutcases who will never believe that insane and dangerous people do insane and dangerous things, which is exactly what happened on December 14th. An enormous, nonsensical government conspiracy makes far more sense to these kinds of people because either the truth is too ugly, too boring, or there's something legitimately wrong with their brains. |
| 1/22/13 6:00 PM | |
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epwar
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Member Since: 5/28/07 Posts: 16823 |
"I find the mainstream media untrustworthy and you can't believe everything they say. This documentary on Youtube is legit and real though." - Sandy Hook hoax believers |
| 1/22/13 6:39 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2418 |
And those questions were answered. If you don't know the answers, then that's ignorance. If you refuse to accept the answers because you believe that they're not true (doe to a conspiracy), then that's insanity. I didn't claim you mentioned the nurse, but the video does. The point is that this video also has no problem either lying and manipulating you or just fucking the facts up themselves... just as band, if not worse, than the media they're crucifying. As for the rest of the shit (medical examiner, etc), the facts are out there. Do your own research outside of out-of-context conspiracy videos. |
| 1/22/13 6:49 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2419 |
The fact that you're asking about the person in the woods shows that you have no real interest in the truth. That man has been identified and the issue has been discussed in this thread. 
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| 1/22/13 8:09 PM | |
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octowussy
Member Since: 8/12/10 Posts: 2420 |
Again: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your_comprehensive_answer_to_every_sandy_hook_conspiracy_theory/ What about the man in the woods? Central to proving any conspiracy theory is finding co-conspirators, which in this case means multiple shooters. Theorists have seized on helicopter footage of a man getting chased by police through the woods behind the school as evidence there was more than one shooter. Who is this man? Answer: It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school. He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran. But there was another man in the woods (maybe): Eyewitnesses saw a second man in the woods wearing camouflage pants and a dark jacket, and said that he may have been armed. Must be a second shooter. Answer: Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, “an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town” who heard the gunfire. What about the third man at the firehouse? Children fleeing the school said they saw a man pinned down on the ground in handcuffs outside the firehouse. Could this be a second or third shooter? Answer: No, like Manfredonia, this man was briefly detained by police in the hectic aftermath, but quickly released when it was determined he was just a passerby, Connecticut State Police spokesperson Lt. Paul Vance, who was on the scene, confirmed to Salon. “Were there other people detained? The answer is yes. In the height of battle, until you’ve determined who, what, when, where and why of everyone in existence … that’s not unusual,” Vance said. Then why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters? Theorizers have parsed conflicting media reports and interviews with eyewitnesses saying they saw multiple shooters. How could they be wrong? Answer: In the stress and confusion of a situation like a mass shooting, misreporting is not just common, but the rule. And there’s a reason eyewitnesses are viewed so skeptically in criminal court cases: They often get things wrong. The Supreme Court has called eyewitness testimony “notoriously unreliable” while the Innocence Project says ”eyewitness misidentification is the single greatest cause of wrongful convictions.” Yet theorists would have you believe that a small handful of media interviews with people on the scene trumps all the other interviews with people there and police and media reports. |
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