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1/23/13 1:57 PM
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Ok, this guy is a bit Loony and he doesn't know shit about fighting.  No need to try and  ruin his life.  Hopefully most people will be able to see through his bullshit and not pay him for instruction.  He never seems to have more than one guy training and it always seems to be their first day, so that might be a safe assumption.  Best thing is to create some posts alerting people to the fact that he's fake and hope people do their research.  

These threads always start out kinda funny and deteriorate into worse-than-highschool mob mentality shit. "Hey let's all pick on the weird kid and laugh'.  I think this type of thing says as much about the posters on this thread as it does about the target.  

I'm not sure why MMAguy gets off on these threads so much, maybe because he has the same record as a lot of these guys and it makes him feel like he`s somehow above them instead of on the same MMA level as them?  Just my two cents.


This is sort of how I feel. This guy clearly has some mental issues and already went through being exposed years ago. He fought an actually MMA match and got KO'ed brutally. He has to live that down to himself every day, now 5 years later MMA.tv is back after him rehashing shit we already knew.

He isn't a real fighter, he has no real MA background, he lost his only MMA fight and he is 50 years old. Why continue to make him suffer.

He doesn't own or operate a school, he isn't trying to run or operate a school, and he doesn't have any students. The few videos of him "training" that guy is a joke. It was probably some poor sap from his roofing business he brought in to make those few videos. I say leave him be, he has suffered enough and isn't really mentally all there.

In the past I have been all for these types of threads because the people involved were attempting to defraud the public, teach children, open schools, and interact with the general public. This guy only does those things in his mind.

1/23/13 2:01 PM
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And LOL at not wanting to be part of Tender Rim Team!! Rejection hurts when you can't hang out with us TRT big dawgs! Isn't that right brolly? Phone Post
1/23/13 2:31 PM
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lets address the different things going on here...

First, Deuce is the fucking man...

Second, Atkinson shows up, calls anyone "endorsing" this thread a piece of shit, and brags about his 150k salary...

First off, even if I did believe you (And I bet your about 60k over what you actually make at max, 40k at best) How fucking douchey were you trying to remain relevant here by posting that?

There are people on this forum that make more than that quarterly, its irrelevant, and bringing it up the way you did makes pretty much everything else you say not only suspect, but rather irrelevant as well.

NExt, I LOVE these guys that want us to "LEAVE GIANT LEE ALONE!!!!" (insert the leave brittnay alone guy pic here)

What do you want us to "stop" now that we are at this point?

Should we stop knocking on his door late at night?

What about the beatings? Should we stop beating him?

No more pointing and laughing?

What would you like us to stop so that your delicate sensibilities are made to feel better?

Should we no longer post his emails and sit back and talk among our selves? (thats whats happening fuckwad...)

Pinch yourself and wake the fuck up, no one is doing anything other than conversing back and forth on an internet forum, the occasional joke is being cracked, and if you dont find them funny (I think your a limp dicked tightass and your life prob sucks) DONT READ THEM!

Don't post and further the thread, just fuck off!

My god these white nights... I would bet most of you get out of the shower to go pee... bunch a slack jawed faggots around here.
1/23/13 3:04 PM
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1/23/13 3:37 PM
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Fuck truck drivers, they hog the road like they hog this thread.
1/23/13 3:41 PM
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1/23/13 4:05 PM
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"Pinch yourself and wake the fuck up, no one is doing anything other than conversing back and forth on an internet forum"

Hasn't his e-mail been hacked, his friends contacted, his "students" pointed to this site? Hell there is even shit on this thread about his roofing business and how to contact the BBB. Totally unrelated to his MMA abilities.



1/23/13 4:39 PM
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jcblass - "Pinch yourself and wake the fuck up, no one is doing anything other than conversing back and forth on an internet forum"

Hasn't his e-mail been hacked, his friends contacted, his "students" pointed to this site? Hell there is even shit on this thread about his roofing business and how to contact the BBB. Totally unrelated to his MMA abilities.



It's just sprinkled w fairy tales a bullshit lies is the point of it all. Have a laugh about it nobody is going after this guy in a harmful way just more or less exposing more lies he tells is all Phone Post
1/23/13 4:41 PM
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jcblass - "Pinch yourself and wake the fuck up, no one is doing anything other than conversing back and forth on an internet forum"

Hasn't his e-mail been hacked, his friends contacted, his "students" pointed to this site? Hell there is even shit on this thread about his roofing business and how to contact the BBB. Totally unrelated to his MMA abilities.




Just saw your earlier post and wanted to clarify that he actually DID have a website up, advertising classes and offering his services as an instructor. He was using his 'qualifications' as a world champion kickboxer and his purple belt as a means to attract clients.
Although he was outed years ago as a fake fighter (which I personally didn't realize until later in the thread), all this other stuff is new.

Although it is apparent that he is unstable, I think posting the BBB stuff was to show that he had complaints in his roofing business for defrauding customers. That seems relevant to me.

What mmaguy was saying though is that right now, we aren't doing anything more. He has shut the school website(s) down.
1/23/13 4:50 PM
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Everybody needs someone to look down on. . Phone Post
1/23/13 4:52 PM
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Cung knocked my ace out -  Everybody needs someone to look down on. . Phone Post

so it seems!
1/23/13 5:12 PM
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1/23/13 5:47 PM
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Ummm if anything's happened with this could someone repost it on the last page... Bunch of fags arguing about truck driving salary or some shit. Thanks. Phone Post
1/23/13 5:53 PM
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^LOL!
Umm, fortunately, you haven't missed anything..

Sensei Iron Claw has sent me a couple of dozen emails over the last 2-3 days, but I am not posting them until he actually answers something relevant to what the UG has asked him.
1/23/13 6:50 PM
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DeuceDroppin -  Atkinson how about this....

Let's get a respectable mod (like Dreamer) in on this. You verify to him who you are, and how much you make (by doing this through a mod you can stay anonymous to the rest of us). If you are being truthful and he confirms it, you can change my screen name as many times as you want for the next 6 months. If you can't confirm it, then you take a 6 month ban for lying on the forum. Deal? Phone Post

Well, I don't think the guy cares about what sceenname you use. Go ahead and keep using the one you have now whatever the outcome of you guys' argument may be.

Just saying...

it's a common wager here *shrug* lots of people care enough bet with that at stake.

OK, then go ahead and change your screenname if you have lost your bet in the future. Either is fine with me.
^^^ I think this guy means well, but his weird awkwardness is creeping me the fuck out!!haha Phone Post

You are dumb, aren't you?

Voted up.
1/23/13 6:55 PM
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Umm, fortunately, you haven't missed anything..

Sensei Iron Claw has sent me a couple of dozen emails over the last 2-3 days, but I am not posting them until he actually answers something relevant to what the UG has asked him.

Perhaps you should ask these questions over and over again.
1/23/13 8:24 PM
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Umm, fortunately, you haven't missed anything..

Sensei Iron Claw has sent me a couple of dozen emails over the last 2-3 days, but I am not posting them until he actually answers something relevant to what the UG has asked him.

Perhaps you should ask these questions over and over again.
His emails bounce back. We believe Sensei iron claw is reading the thread Phone Post
1/23/13 8:39 PM
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I've thought that he was lurking for a while now hell as crazy as he is he's probably posted. Phone Post
1/23/13 9:24 PM
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WOw the last few pages of this thread got seriously off track and lame as fuck. Once the Sensei's emails stop getting posted it got real real lame. Not that it matters the guy is a fucking nut job for sure.

1/23/13 9:31 PM
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Umm, fortunately, you haven't missed anything..

Sensei Iron Claw has sent me a couple of dozen emails over the last 2-3 days, but I am not posting them until he actually answers something relevant to what the UG has asked him.

Perhaps you should ask these questions over and over again.
His emails bounce back. We believe Sensei iron claw is reading the thread Phone Post

OK, then I will ask here again, because no one else wants to do it. We should make it simple, shouldn't we?

Dear God of War,

We have two questions for you.

Where did you get the purple belt?
Which world championships did you win?

We honestly believe that we have a right to know the answers to these questions because we love our sport and we don't want it to be watered down by fakes.

Regards,

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1/23/13 9:37 PM
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lol at telling me to get a real job and a life...


anyhow.

If anyone is interested in dipshit sticking around, please sound off now, otherwise, lets get back to kicking the ever living fuck out of the retarded old man.
1/23/13 9:59 PM
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mmaguy, I think the Germans just bombed Pearl Harbor. Phone Post
1/23/13 10:11 PM
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^I'm totally down for some assault and battery on the elderly and the handicapped! My only regret is that Sensei isn't a visible minority or a woman, because there is nothing in this world more joyous than shit-kicking an old black 'tard lady!
1/23/13 10:19 PM
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WOw the last few pages of this thread got seriously off track and lame as fuck. Once the Sensei's emails stop getting posted it got real real lame. Not that it matters the guy is a fucking nut job for sure.

^^^ Phone Post
1/24/13 12:09 AM
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mmaguy30 - lol at telling me to get a real job and a life...


anyhow.

If anyone is interested in dipshit sticking around, please sound off now, otherwise, lets get back to kicking the ever living fuck out of the retarded old man.
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